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4421  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is the most profitable gambling? on: July 07, 2016, 08:08:34 AM
In related context Buying and holding bitcoins is a profitable gambling. In real life shares are a good way of gambling. Betting on sports are real events are tricky. Dices and similar luck games are fun. HYIP and so called Revenue sharing can be a tricky option too.
4422  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice 4 Launches TODAY! on: July 05, 2016, 03:12:44 PM
Got the promo of 0.001 BTC and quadrupled it in first hour. Now my total withdrawal are twice my total deposit. Primedice rocks! (i.e. until and unless I keep wining) Cheesy
4423  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The House always wins. on: July 04, 2016, 01:18:29 PM
I am not a gambler but wanted to give it a try for some fun experiment and some time I had left with, whatever I gambled with 25$ (with the sake of checking how long I can prolong my loss). The rest of the story continues.

So this is my case from FreeBitCo.in but sure would be the case with any Gambling website. Modified the more famous martingale script available all over the internet so that it extends the game play with some added tricks and tweaks to the script so that it takes its own time to run, with little profits along the way.

The saying of being provably fair is also not a valid point. It is written inside the system that it has to make sure the user loses if he/she is dumb enough to play for a long period of time.

What you have in hand to say that the system is fair?

1) Client- Seed

What the house has to say that we can screw you anytime?

1) Your Constant incoming Client seed,
2) Server Seed,
3) Server Seed Hash,

Not enough?

4) Bitcoin Address,
5) Email address,

Still not enough?

6) IP Address.

and there may be several more to detect that its coming from you and follow behind you to screw you.

Game Play.

Deposited BTC0.02800000 (around 17.5$ which was what got left after the high transfer fees of VirWox(Card/SLL/BTC conversion)) to the account. Ran my script for several hours with no issues at all (saw several timeouts in between  Roll Eyes ) and started accumulating satoshis. The max balance I had before being defeated is nearly 0.04700000 where in I spent a good 12 hours of play.

A Calculation, showing step play starting with 1 satoshi.


My Logic for Play.
Script is simple which works on Payouts ranging 30-35, running the values over and over again for small periods and then increment step by step till loses of 137 steps. Once it reaches step 138 it multiplies 1.035 by itself and plays the next round. At each step there is a win for sure until you are screwed by the System showing "Insufficient Balance to play".

Their Logic To Screw
They work with averages. Average the payout values to keep the game going for sometime. Then suddenly give the game less than required averages (for e.g. give contiguous wins within 5 to 10 steps on several occasions so that a single game can be extended beyond an average which decides to screw you out of shape.). On the way of the game they keep a calculation of how much balance you have, with the number of wagers you made and with the value of bet you are playing and how long you can go. If they feel they are near to 70% of the averaged game and the balance has not dropped sufficiently they say they give up and give you a win (but not always).

Took screenshots of big losing streaks (but a win) along the way (though was not able to take screenshot of the final losing streak of 254 consecutive loses with start of 19 satoshis. BTW went till 310 continuous loses with start of 1 satoshi but eventually won.)







How does dice scripts survive.
1) My best assumption is by the bets that users put by collecting all the satoshis earned from external faucets just to blow it away on gambling websites. So Dice websites work as if they are the aggregator of all the faucets (The House always wins). But this will only work till the google adsense pay is good and bitcoin price doesn't skyrocket.

2) People like me experimenting with no actual worth of experiment.

3) People who have lots of stash to blow.

Conclusion:
You can never beat the system. If it decides to screw you, you are screwed.
What ever you do you are gonna give it all to the house back (along with the winnings) in the long run from any of the Dice websites. 

It's a probability game. Every Gambling site using provably fair will ever make a profit with even a small house edge.

In individual cases, some user may profit from the site but as a whole the wining percentage is 49% and loosing is 51%. That 2% margin in long run will make the house rich.(1% in some sites).
4424  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Has anyone tried to place arbitrage bets during live events? on: July 04, 2016, 06:13:31 AM
That can be a cool way if you have a huge amount to bet with and time it well. I have done such things with small amounts and had some small profits.

 There is a site which saves your time in collecting the information and show you exactly which two sites are offering Arbitrage bets.
They too have a newsletter alert. I don't belong to the site anyway, just sharing my experience
https://www.bitedge.co/sports-betting-tools-and-resources/bitcoin-betting-arbitrage-alerts/

It's been a rumor that some sites blocks users who practice such methods but I've never encountered such things.
4425  Other / Meta / Re: Can We Take a Moment to Talk About This Forum? on: July 04, 2016, 06:05:27 AM
There are Games and Rounds section, Investor based game section and off topic board where other things could be discussed. I prefer the gambling section be restricted to specific game or site and discussing the strategy and outcome. Things like is gamble sin?, can you win gambling? needs to be in off topic board.
4426  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: MY gambling strategy to limit loss and make btc on: July 04, 2016, 04:18:41 AM
My strtegy is very simple. It is called self control. i strt with .01 anytime i get  more than .001 over that amount i immidieately withdraw that ammount into coinbase. this way, i cant get cocky and gamble away huge orofits! Ehat are you guys opinions on this strat

 Firstly 0.01 is not sure to give you .001 always and you don't cease to gamble once you get 0.001. You are sure to gamble on any place other. If you are able to self control yourself really good for you.
4427  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Euro 2016 on: July 04, 2016, 03:47:43 AM
I was sure about france going to semis but I didn't expected that number of goals. Won France to advance to next round.
4428  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Euro 2016 on: July 02, 2016, 01:00:19 PM
It's the Final of Euro, anyone winning the game would win the final and I went with Germany to advance to next round.
4429  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: ¦¯¦¦¯¦ Rollin.io Free Lottery Tickets ¦¯¦¦¯¦ Daily Giveaway ¦¯¦¦¯¦ 381 mBTC won on: July 01, 2016, 02:11:03 PM
Username tsaroz

Thanks
4430  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Euro 2016 on: July 01, 2016, 10:29:02 AM
It's an important match for both of them but I believe Belgium has a more balanced team and they are likely to advance to semis.
4431  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FAUCET BUCKET UP TO 5000 SATOSHIS EVERY 6 MINUTES on: June 27, 2016, 01:41:47 PM
Nice and clean faucet. Minimum 75 satoshi per 6 mins. I got 200. Ref is 15%.
4432  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: BTC2K.xyz | Claim every 5 mins | Minimum of 1000 Satoshi per hour! on: June 27, 2016, 01:39:06 PM
Clean faucet. It pays 85 satoshis every 5 minutes with 20% ref commission.
4433  Economy / Gambling / Re: Will Bitcoin casinos be more popular than regular online casinos by 2020? on: June 27, 2016, 11:52:58 AM
I think the casinos are already more popular than a fiat only casino. I only use fiat site for sports betting.
4434  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Euro 2016 on: June 27, 2016, 08:53:59 AM
Today is going to be really difficult to predict.

England vs Ireland
My bet England winner.

Italy vs Spain
Italy will win but game can go draw in 90. I'm not going to bet here.
4435  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [Primedice.com] The Great Primedice Giveaway 4 Everyone! on: June 27, 2016, 04:15:24 AM
Username tsaroz
4436  Economy / Gambling / Re: Any trustworthy dice betting sites? on: June 27, 2016, 03:12:16 AM
Primedice, Rollin.io, Pocketdice, are my favourites.
4437  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Copa america 2016 dicussion on: June 27, 2016, 03:09:17 AM
Can't believe it ended the same way as last year so sad  Cry

Argentina is one unlucky team. The title goes to the winner.
4438  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Euro 2016 on: June 27, 2016, 03:04:59 AM
Won every of my bet yesterday.



against draw bet Germany vs Slovakia. Odds 1.299



Germany vs Slovakia over 2.5 goals. Odds 2.41

ML Germany and France winner Parlayed. Odds 2.15


4439  Economy / Gambling / Re: SatoshiLand : Bitcoin Faucet, Casino, Betting, and Challenges on: June 26, 2016, 02:15:27 PM
Thank you for your ideas,
The errors will be fixed and the timer will be added,
And for the games, we assure you it is not tricked, we will make a live video of one of us playing it live to prove that.
Website updated, links and balance on the top navigation, and chat to interact with other members and referral program to earn 5% of your invited users' earnings
and timer added


Primitive GUI. Needs workout to attract users. The competition is tough and you need to excel in many ways to get users of established sites.
4440  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Euro 2016 on: June 26, 2016, 01:13:02 PM
lol France conceded in a very quick time 0 - 1  2' (pen.) Robert Brady. I hope France do not disappoint my parlay.

LOL. Same here. I parlayed France with Germany. Hope they don't disappoint today.
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