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4421  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Are e-mail users imbeciles? on: February 13, 2014, 05:42:20 PM
Mega encrypts your files : https://mega.co.nz/ I don't think they willingly give our infos to the us

They are working on a project to encrypt the web or at least a web mail service
4422  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Doge coin is bad on: February 13, 2014, 05:39:01 PM
People buy alt-currencies in case they make it or to speculate but you can't buy much with them right?

Where are you buying Dodgecoins?
4423  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [850 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + VarDiff on: February 13, 2014, 05:37:10 PM
5 blocks in 12hours we are running good!

Too bad I only have 1.6GH/s Cheesy
4424  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: BitcoinFlipcoin.com - 5mBTC FREE for next 10 bets - GUARANTEED WIN! on: February 13, 2014, 04:40:52 PM
https://blockchain.info/tx/8390b6a90cafeb699ae17e43289ae46e69a594b519762a8d108f1671e9ad93b0

Thanks!

EDIT: Didn't read the "first 10 bets" part... good thing I won Tongue

Haha me neither, let's hope I win then; it is pretty smooth to only say it in the title, I am certain tens of players will play thinking they can get 5mBTC, he got me at least
4425  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: BitcoinFlipcoin.com - 5mBTC FREE for next 10 bets - GUARANTEED WIN! on: February 13, 2014, 04:38:05 PM
Transaction ID : dddc87438b99595a1aaf9a99b3d34965a6eaf48d40556101a82ee6ff15062452

Good luck with the website
4426  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Free 0.001 bitcoin for Bitcointalk members on: February 13, 2014, 04:30:06 PM
 Account name at Quizbtc.com : boumalo

The website doesn't always load apparently, does someone else has troubles?
4427  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Giveaway of Bitcoin - guess a number between 1-1000 and Win 0.01bitcoins on: February 13, 2014, 04:24:45 PM
380

1247stFukbVxL8c6bYf5NWvaCR8p68EtTg

There has been about 200tries so now there is the odds to find the correct number are 800 to 1 Smiley

That would be nice to see a give away where the number to find is 1-100, let's gamble!
4428  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: LiteCoin Ponzi System on: February 13, 2014, 01:49:04 PM
The thread would be better suited for gambling or the s.cam section that ''Project Development''!

If the website's owner doesn't keep all the money, a few players will get 20% and a lot of players will lose a lot of money
4429  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why are BTC prices not moving ? on: February 13, 2014, 01:25:22 PM
I believe that next target point is 380-430 and do not going to pay for btc more than that.
Coins market is overbought right now and market realizing that fact sells coins, consequence of that we see now, and will see in the near future, price will fall proportionally of understanding overbought.
News will not be so big drivers, unless it's fundamental.

There is too much people who knows about crypto right now, and they want to be rich and become fast. Good fundamentals like recognition from government, feds seizure of accounts and imprisoning criminals who owned bitcoins is always good. For us it's always better if bad guys get arrested and coins become less (maybe just for some time). Therefore I do not believe that market will wait until "next wave" in the summer.
Accumulating news can be big catalyst in the future when we hit target point 380-430.
that's what i think.

i love this prediction.
Any comments anyone? Wanna hear.

I think that the price could go down to 400 (or less) but BTC will have a lot of support at those levels so I think it would rebound nicely

If the big news are positive in the next few months I don't think the price can go that low but if there are mostly negative it probably will
4430  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Useful Website Idea? on: February 13, 2014, 01:22:28 PM

Thanks for the link; I thought there were more than 4 Bitcoin atms in Europe, is the website up to date?
4431  Other / Off-topic / Re: Get 1 million bitcoins ! on: February 13, 2014, 01:20:54 PM
Is it a real spammy email that someone received?

I am wondering if I lost 2min or if I just entertained myself reading this thread and answering.. Shocked
4432  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Are e-mail users imbeciles? on: February 13, 2014, 12:56:34 PM
I find Op's message interesting, anything that you say or do on internet could potentially come back if you are not careful; this is true for any social media website or forum though
4433  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Doge coin is bad on: February 13, 2014, 12:47:41 PM
Can someone explain me Dodgecoin : positives-negatives-why it is so talked about?

That will save me 30min of research, thanks
4434  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin 15% a Month Investment Opportunity on: February 13, 2014, 11:23:21 AM
Actually it's a little bit funny:-) You all claim scam and so on. When I started working with them I didn't find at least one negative review. Now I made $4800 with Maxbounty and $150 on bitcoin investments. Second month - still no negative review. And I'm making money with their methods.

Just interesting how people think - looks like you were scammed many times on this forum.

Potentially even bitcoin can be scam. It can close website and all people having money in it - will lose it.

Again my goal is not to advertise anything - I even didn't give any referal link. I just wanted to share and to know more things about bitcoin.

In my opinion a company, business can be called scam - if there is fact that it scammed.  Roll Eyes

You are defending the company indeed

Can you explain what there is to win for the website's owner?
4435  Local / Skandinavisk / Re: Antminer usb bitcoin 1.6G to 2.2G in Stockholm on: February 13, 2014, 11:21:30 AM
bitcoins4currency.com ?

Hello sir, i did not ask for the currency or how much the bitcoins are worth right now, i asked for a price in swedish krona.  Undecided

I am not the person who answered bitcoins4....com, look at my previous message
4436  Economy / Gambling / Re: MakeBTC.org is the best passive BTC income invest on: February 13, 2014, 12:40:42 AM
Level selling changes a little. Price ranges between 0.01 to 0.5 BTC per level. Minimal level to sell is 0.1. So the bonus won't be lower then 50% and bank will grow faster. I wish you all the best.

It is very good that at least half the deposit is used for bank but you could allow bonuses of less than 50% without taking more than 50% of a deposit to pay for the level sell, exemple : A sells for 70%, B deposit 1BTC and get 5/7 * 30% bonus, bank increases of 0.5

Next bank could arrive within a week

Play responsibly guys, this is a pyramid..


Yeah obviously MakeBTC.org is clearly a pyramid - so it's little risky Huh.

This is why:
I play at  Grin bitcoinchef.info  Kiss , people are getting paid large amounts,
but not from other investors money.

Forum thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=458770.0

When are you going to stop spamming everyone?

You can't pay everyone if you have nothing to earn, if you wanted to give away you wouldn't need people to make big deposits; it seems extremely SCA.MMY
4437  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin 25% a Month Investment Opportunity on: February 12, 2014, 02:01:04 PM
"Honest, Ethically, Revolutionnary..."

If the first thing someone say is "I am honest", it's probably because he isn't.

Yeah , and "Revolutionary" means it's the same old scam. Smiley)

You forgot it is "guaranteed" and managed "honestly"

It is an uggly website and a complicated sc.am because it appears you have to work to be scamm.ed
4438  Economy / Speculation / Re: Something is wrong. We cannot just gloss over the $100 sell on: February 12, 2014, 01:53:59 PM
This is my first time posting, I've never bothered to do it before but i got to share my fear on this matter..
What can someone who stole a bunch of BTC and has very limited fiat do to cover his traces?
I would make a flash crash on a low volume market and prepare everything i have on several accounts to catch the low figures and buy as many clean coins as i could.
I would prolly lose 3/4 of coins but i get clean 1/4.

It is pretty unlikely that it is what happened. Someone that stole so much BTC may not risk in on a plateform if it is "tainted BTC"


I am glad you brought up the post about not glossing this over, it was an extreme anomaly and was crazy to see.

My personal opinion was that it was human error, but I have never sold BTC on BTC-E so I do not know if any sort of queue's pop up before you confirm your sale or anything.  My off the wall thought, or you could call it the conspiracy theory thought, that is just for fun and not something I truly believe....is that there was a single person or group of persons responsible at MtGox for the bug on their end that eventually led to the crash, and they were forced to sell their personal wealth of BTCs at $102 OR ELSE!

Anyways, I hope the true story comes out but until then I am sure we will get many guesses..

I have read a few possible explanations so far :

-Human error
-Apetersson's plausible explanation : "the plausible explanation is that a bunch of long positions were forcefully liquidated during a margin call. this caused ridiculous market orders to be executed.
additionally, the total market depth on those two platforms is not spectacular, so "only" about 8000 coins were needed for these two spikes."
-Conspiracy theory to weaker Bitcoin
-A big sell order to activate automatic limit losses and profit from it


The sell-off had nothing to do with the use of bitcoin as a currency.  Bitcoin is worth the same today as it was yesterday.  Two factors caused a financial event for speculators:  A false PR report by a broken company, Mt. Gox, and leveraged long positions facing margin calls.  You may recall the same thing happened to the stock market in 2008.  Perhaps the NYSE has immature infrastructure that means the U.S. dollar is not ready for prime time?  Unlike the stock market, bitcoin resumed normal pricing within hours. 

Everything is working as intended, here.  Except of course for Mt. Gox.

Bitcoin is great but the BTC exchanges have a lot to learn of NYSE and Nasdaq or at least they are not using the same amount of human capital and technology, NYSE and Nasdaq work smoothly enough, managing huuuge volums without many hiccups
4439  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: will the bitcoin reach $1000 one day...? on: February 12, 2014, 01:37:33 PM
There is now a DDOS.  Presumably orchestrated by someone trying to exploit the GOX bug in order to drive the price lower. 

For a long time, Bitcoin protocol allowed transactions to be expressed in multiple different ways, yielding potentially several different Hashes /ID numbers for the same tx.

They fixed this many months ago so that the qt wallet and the command line client only ever issue tx in a standard 'canonical' format that has a single possible hash/ID, and the standard Bitcoin daemon won't forward or mine tx that have one of the noncanonical representations.

But Gox didn't fix their own software, and every so often Gox would issue a tx that didn't have the canonical form.  There were a couple of miners that still allowed these transactions to go into blocks, so the noncanonical transactions would be delayed while all the miners that didn't allow it got blocks, then finally go through when they got "lucky" and hit a miner that hadn't updated software.

A couple weeks ago, after many warnings, the Bitcoin network reached a threshold and the full nodes stopped accepting blocks that contain noncanonical transactions.  Miners that hadn't updated their software yet started getting orphaned blocks every time they included one of them, which happened about as often as Gox emitted them.  The bug at Gox bit their asses as payments made from Gox having a noncanonical representation were refused by the network. 

Keep in mind, at this point this is less than one one thousandth of the payments coming out of Gox.  Essentially it only happened in some small fraction of the tx where Gox was spending its own unconfirmed change txouts. 

But as Gox started spinning on that little dildo, some malefactor went, "Hey, I bet we can give them a much bigger dildo to spin on!  We can make Bitcoins cheap enough to buy a bunch of them if we make this look like a bigger problem!"    And they monkeyed up a little script, which they then pushed out to some botnet somewhere.

Their script takes regular transactions off the Bitcoin network and re-emits them in noncanonical form, in an effort to absolutely melt down anybody who hasn't completely fixed this bug yet.  Gox goes from having an occasional problem where it thinks it's made a payment that it hasn't actually made (because it made it WRONG), to being absolutely helplessly reamed on a giant monster cock.  The few remaining miners that haven't updated their software go from getting one extra orphan every once in a while to getting every last block orphaned.  Meanwhile the rest of the network is spammed with thousands of bogus transactions a minute, all of them copies/alternate expressions of 'real' transactions.  The real transactions (in canonical form) get accepted by the network and the bogus ones don't, but the network is under strain. 

This sudden flood of noncanonical transactions results in exposing an edge case in the qt and cli client software, as well as the software used by *MOST* exchanges.  This edge case is benign, but confusing.  The problem is that the noncanonical transactions can show up as unconfirmed tx for a while in your client.  They will never confirm, and the correct transactions that they are copies of will confirm eventually, so this is essentially harmless.  But it can make it appear such that you've accidentally made a payment twice, or appear that a payment coming to you has been sent twice - one of these payments will eventually confirm, and the other will not, but for a few hours, it will look like there is something wrong.  And the payments have different ID numbers. 

Bitstamp now looks at the situation, going, "hmm, there's a DDOS underway and I bet a bunch of our customers are going to be making transactions to try to "correct" this double payment situation which doesn't really exist, and when they understand what actually happened, and that there were no actual double payments being made, they'll have made transactions they wish they hadn't.  We should head off that situation somehow...."  and so they suspend trading because they figure that's easier than trying to explain everything to their user base.

Other places, like Coinbase, carry right on trading because they figure if their customers make transactions because their customers are confused, then that is their customers' problem not theirs, and besides they're in a more litigous jurisdiction and afraid that if they suspend trading that will open them up for lawsuits, either for failing to execute or for contributing to a panic.

Meanwhile, Bitcoin developers go 'doh!' and get to work fixing it so that noncanonical transactions which won't ever confirm also don't ever show up as unconfirmed. 



That seems very plausible, I can see all the actors involve make the decisions that you are guessing they made, that is still probably not exactly what happens but mtgox is using an customised wallet, there has been a DDos attack

What is your explanation concerning the 102$ sell on btc-e?
4440  Local / Échanges / Re: MTGox est mourant et a pris la grosse tête on: February 12, 2014, 01:27:24 PM
Oui certains utilisateurs du forum offrent de racheter les BTC de chez gox pour 70% de "vrais" BTC (ce que j'ai trouvé de mieux, certains les rachetent à 10% !!)

Apparemment un des derniers échanges s'est fait à 15goxBTC pour 12BTC

Ce n'était qu'une offre de vente ; pas sur qu'elle ait abouti ?

Après bonne idée pour sauver ses coins, ou panic sell car MtGox va réouvrir, perso j'en sais rien !!

Disclaimer : j'ai vendu 2gox BTC pour 1,4 BTC

Oui visiblement le prix varie de 60% à 90% depuis le début de l'affaire, au gré du sentiment et des infos que reçoivent les gens.

Si le protocole commence à être remis en question, le prix du bitcoin pourrait descendre bcp plus qu'il n'a descendu; de même si mtgox ferme; dans le deuxième cas j'en profiterai sans doute pour acheter des bitcoins
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