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4441  Economy / Speculation / Re: The LTC effect on BTC on: July 05, 2013, 03:24:09 PM
i hope to see thousands of cryptocurrencys, ranging from city brand, to football teams or red cross etc etc 
It will be easier for Proof-of-Stake vanity coins to become culturally popular. They will be intrinsically worthless, but any celebrity could issue them and probably get them to be traded.
4442  Economy / Speculation / Re: The One Percent controls Bitcoin on: July 05, 2013, 03:21:09 PM
We need an exchange for exchanges
That's not far from the right idea.
4443  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripples going thru the roof? on: July 05, 2013, 03:19:15 PM
Ripple is reminiscent of 1998's DigiCash that went bankrupt a year later. It has all the worst features for a digital currency. It is centralized, closed sourced, and volatile. Right now, it is piggybacking off of cryptocurrencies because real financial payment systems like PayPal won't touch it. Personally, I think it is nothing but a lame attempt to market a premined coin as something radically new. Ultimately, if Ripple does enjoy a measure of success it will be cloned more often than Fontas coins.

Ripple main effort is not currency but payment system that comes with it.

By the way ... PayPal founder investment fund also invested in Ripple even before Google did Cheesy So I wouldn't be so sure about what you say regarding PayPal not touching it Cheesy
I am sure that many people invest a little as a hedge, like Microsoft buying Apple stock even though they are competitors. Like DigiCash, Ripple will probably get a lot of hype for a year.   Cheesy  Then die.   Cheesy
4444  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripples going thru the roof? on: July 05, 2013, 02:55:21 PM
Ripple is reminiscent of 1998's DigiCash that went bankrupt a year later. It has all the worst features for a digital currency. It is centralized, closed sourced, and volatile. Right now, it is piggybacking off of cryptocurrencies because real financial payment systems like PayPal won't touch it. Personally, I think it is nothing but a lame attempt to market a premined coin as something radically new. Ultimately, if Ripple does enjoy a measure of success it will be cloned more often than Fontas coins.
4445  Economy / Speculation / Re: Get prepared to buy BACK!! on: July 05, 2013, 02:22:30 PM
This is a long slow slide. Fear that politicians will use Bitcoin witch hunting to attract financial contributions from the banking industry will suppress widespread adoption. Playing by the rules will be difficult when they make special rules just for Bitcoin. One of two things will break this slide. Either someone will succeed in getting Wall Street to recognize the profitability of Bitcoin as a payment system, or the technology will evolve beyond the ability to regulate against widespread adoption. Until then, Bitcoin has no reason to be worth more than about $30-50. Let's hope all this speculation inspires lawgivers and developers to find some common ground and/or agree to disagree.
4446  Economy / Speculation / Re: The One Percent controls Bitcoin on: July 05, 2013, 01:01:19 PM
Propaganda: The science of manipulating the psychology of ignorant followers. This is the tool that has always been used. Bitcoin is being manipulated this way. We need to change the psychology of Bitcoin users so it resists the tools of manipulators on these fragile exchanges. The tools of psychology are statistics. Statistics is based on the fundamental keystone of Bitcoin. Math is what creates and maintains the integrity of Bitcoin. Math can fortify clarify and resolve its valuation to make it resistant to wild fluctuation and ensure honest price discovery. There needs to be a way to throw out statistically insignificant price fluctuations that aggregate into panic inducing patterns. The nature of trends are clearer when we use better tools, but limiting ourselves to Mt Gox as the primary source of price discovery allows propaganda to take hold.
4447  Economy / Speculation / Re: Poll :: When will Bitcoin reach $1 Billion total value on: July 05, 2013, 02:45:05 AM
Still thinking.
4448  Economy / Speculation / Re: The One Percent controls Bitcoin on: July 04, 2013, 06:12:03 PM
I think its natural ... the largest bitcoin-holders want to earn something, and with the actual price, they earn good. So they sell sometimes some thousands of bitcoins. Who would not do? Is this process not what blitz calls "the great dollar extraction"? I think they would do more harm to btc if they just hold 'em. But it wont go in this direction for infinity, everytime the big holders drop the price they give away a bit of controll over Bitcoins, and when it's over, btc is more decentralized again.
Yes it is natural for commodities to act this way. Comparing Bitcoin to pork bellies or wheat does not help define what the Bitcoin experiment is about.

I am starting to think that humans are not ready for economic freedom and prefer the security of the "natural order" of aristocracy. This may be the death knell of Bitcoin until the experiment is tried again one day by less fearful creatures that evolve from our ashes.
4449  Economy / Speculation / The One Percent controls Bitcoin on: July 04, 2013, 05:31:28 PM
The price of Bitcoin is set by Mt Gox. There is no dispute about that. The fact that the sell off of about one hundred thousand bitcoins has dropped the price nearly 50%. One hundred thousand bitcoins is about one percent of the total mined so far. Ninety-nine percent of the bitcoins lose half of their value because of the holdings of one person dumping them and causing people to panic. The opposite can also happen where one person can drive the price up, though panic buying is usually very short-lived as seen by the sharp upward spikes and long-term valleys.

These wild fluctuations are the biggest deterrent to widespread acceptance, yet we allow it to continue. Either the largest bitcoin holders do not really believe in the future of this technology, or they do not know how to fix the problem of wild fluctuation. Perhaps it's because it is an insignificant holding to them or they want to kill it. Either way, large Bitcoin holders do not seem to care about the future of Bitcoin or they would do something about the panic markets.

Some folks might say that Bitcoin price is just fine wherever it is, but the fact is that it cannot be taken seriously until certain technical problems are dealt with. The protocol is developing well, but price is not being addressed by any developers. Why not? The centralized market is a single point of failure for a decentralized currency. This should be addressed by developers, else we allow bullies to control the adaption of Bitcoin.
4450  Economy / Speculation / Re: The LTC effect on BTC on: July 04, 2013, 04:35:15 PM
The next few weeks will be interesting; as I said before

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The 24 hour volume for LTC is well over 1M USD right now (MORE than the 24 hour volume of BTC/USD at mtgox) and the LTC economy seems healthier than ever
LTC is only climbing because it is currency paired with multiple fiat currencies on BTC-E along with BTC. The price of LTC is directly linked to BTC because it is used for arbitrage with the fiat currencies. LTC rises and falls in terms of fiat directly proportional to its trading value with BTC. In other words, it is a purely speculative device that has no intrinsic value over BTC.
4451  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin the Bubblecoin on: July 04, 2013, 06:27:31 AM
Renaming it TiggerCoin.

4452  Economy / Speculation / Re: I predict BTC/USD will fall to $2 by December 31, 2013 on: July 04, 2013, 04:50:24 AM
Yep all those people that invested millions into Bitcoin development and holdings will just allow their investment to fail.
4453  Economy / Speculation / Re: Holders Unite! on: July 04, 2013, 01:10:16 AM
The Dragon will soon awake and eat all your cheap coins!
4454  Economy / Speculation / Re: Holders Unite! on: July 03, 2013, 11:09:41 PM
This is what Libertarians dream of. No central controls of price. Let Bitcoin die and something better and stronger take its place.
4455  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Saving Transaction Outside of Network? on: July 02, 2013, 07:06:37 PM
(2)  Can a user capture a transaction and sent the transaction via a different means (i.e. email or http) and have the transaction activated (or submitted) on the bitcoin network at a later time?
If the point is to delay the payment such as sending cash through the postal service, then a multisig transaction would serve that purpose.
4456  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / How can we get govts to help with Bitcoin development? on: July 02, 2013, 05:58:45 PM
Bitcoin is not a private enterprise. It is a movement of, by, and for the People. Why is government afraid of it? We need help getting this technology out there to improve the world. It would at least make sense for governments to spend some of that "Black Money" to support development. Even if all they do is work on creating analytics and crime-fighting systems it would help to improve the economies of Main St. where the banks are not helping. Bitcoin is an amazing technology and all I hear from goverment officials is FUD.

Let the libertarian flames begin.
4457  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-06-30 Want To Get Bitcoins? This ATM Will Turn Your Banknotes Into Bitcoins on: July 02, 2013, 05:31:08 PM
The US economy will be left in the dust when these hit the global market.
4458  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How could Bitcoin be used as currency among inmates? on: July 02, 2013, 12:44:52 AM
Are you looking to create a new market of goods and services or facilitate a Bitcoin economy?
4459  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What happens "IF" LTCs price is higher than BTC? on: July 01, 2013, 10:26:17 PM
Maybe then someone will start accepting LTC as payment.
4460  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is the capital of AMERICA? on: July 01, 2013, 05:14:25 PM
The capitol is in the capital.
*head exploded*
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