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4441  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2015, 09:29:09 AM
This whole setup still feels a bit manufactured. A huge long position slowly built, yet bull whales didn't push higher at 300 or 260 when it was easy to force shorts to capitulate or manipulate the technicals. At the same time as that position is accumulated, retail / technical momo traders are shorting bitcoin to new highs.

Things could go either way. But some huge news and a pump to end the bear market and wipe out retail - shorting something heavily after an 85% decline - wouldn't surprise me.

As usual things will look very obvious with the benefit of hindsight..


It always does. I wonder if we will rub it in their bear noses if it turns our way.
4442  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2015, 08:04:49 AM
I was kind of expecting this today:



Where's tarmi, hdbuck and sky[vly?]?
4443  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2015, 07:11:15 AM
He's not a troll, he's just upset because he missed out on the last bubbles. And to justify himself he's setting himself up to miss out on the next bull market.

The vast majority of his posts seem like nonsense to me. Hence why he's ignored.

No problem. I doubt it will get better.
4444  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2015, 07:03:22 AM
Just 2000 coins before we go below 230

8600 coins before sub 200.

One click of the mouse, and king bearwhale can throw bitcoin into oblivion.

<snip>

Price drops twenty dollars and suddenly we are close to oblivion says someone who has predicted 0 of his last 20 sub 100 calls correctly.



Have you yet to ignore this troll? Tongue

He's not a troll, he's just upset because he missed out on the last bubbles. And to justify himself he's setting himself up to miss out on the next bull market.
4445  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2015, 07:01:45 AM
Just 2000 coins before we go below 230

8600 coins before sub 200.

One click of the mouse, and king bearwhale can throw bitcoin into oblivion.

<snip>

Price drops twenty dollars and suddenly we are close to oblivion says someone who has predicted 0 of his last 20 sub 100 calls correctly.



Yes, oblivion. Because Bitcoin is a mirage. It's a plaything for day traders. Who could possibly consider it a serious investment?

 http://www.coindesk.com/state-of-bitcoin-q1-2015-record-investment-buoys-ecosystem/
4446  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: BITMAIN announces Antpool on: April 11, 2015, 06:51:26 AM
You submit shares based on the work given.
If you happen to find a block, oddly enough, that doesn't mean you submitted a share worth 25BTC ...
It's worth the difficulty you are mining at.

Mining is random with quite a bit of variance.
Seems it is rampant that miners don't understand what that means.

... variance over 1 second ...


I see you've been a linux user since Red Hat 4 in 97. This is the kind of reply that made me temporarily jump off the linux boat in 97. Instead of complaining of how stupid I am it would be nice if you could explain if these rare instances leads to skewed rewards. You can see on the list the 190PH is the odd one out. Did those who didn't get to submit shares within that 1s miss out?
4447  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2015, 05:33:41 AM
Crave scam was obvious.

I'm skeptical that any of these pos coins will ever work out.





The argument for PoS is flawed. The miner centralization issue is not as cut and dry as it is made to appear. If a pool doesn't manage its imagined power responsibly the miners will flee quite quickly. The security is really maintained by thousands, not 5 or 6 entities as proposed by PoS advocates. And these are thousands who know where their responsibility lie. That someone owns a lot of coins of something doesn't mean that he/she is dedicated to maintaining the networks integrity. Not to mention the risk of the network being hijacked by a large entity in a price slump. If you need physical HW in place at least you know there is a physical limit to how quickly/cheaply power can shift.
4448  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2015, 12:24:07 AM
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It's true that Windows and Apple kept controll over desktop solutions all these years (Except for Android (Linux) and chromebox / chromebook).

But I think bitcoin will be the "desktop solution" for money in a few years. For instance, I don't think remittance services hiding bitcoin from sender and receiver is the best solution. It's better to do it like in Thailand. Very easy to convert bitcoin to bath. On every corner with ATMs, Seven Elevens or mini marts. That way, people in receiving countries can choose to keep the bitcoin they receive from relatives abroad, spend them on the local market for vegetables and fish, or exchange to bath on the nearest Seven Eleven.  Wink

Sure, but most people don't use remittance services.

One market where bitcoin could take off is payments for digital content. Most parents would not feel comfortable with their childrens GooglePlay account or iTunes account being linked to their credit card. Yet, kids hardly buy toys any more. Toy shops are as rare as record shops nowadays. Kids want tablets and gaming consoles. And they want content for those.
Paypal/Braintree is already opening up bitcoin payments for digital content. Microsoft US allows you to fill up your account with BTC for digital content. Eventually Apple and Google will follow. Soon parents will be able to pay part of the kids allowance in btc, either directly to a service of their choosing, or to a bitcoin wallet where the kids can choose themselves which ecosystem they want to squirt their money into. That might sound like peanuts, but if you do the math that's a substantial market.

Convincing regular adults in rich countries to use BTC rather than VISA/Mastercard is a uphill battle. First of all, it will be quite a while before the price of Bitcoin is such that most people would be comfortable with using it. Second, very few shops charge extra for card use. They can save a lot more by having better flow and fewer employees due to card use. Just think back to the 80s when everyone paid cash. Cashiers even packed your shopping bag while you were fumbling around to find that one coin you knew was in there, so you wouldn't have to break a hundred note. Not to mention that people are a bit sentimental about money. Scandinavian countries can't even convince their people to use the euro.

However, if ApplePay starts accepting BTC I have this feeling that people would love to flash their shiny new golden iPhone every time they paid, and perhaps they would be more comfortable with filling that account with BTC rather than leaving that last bit of their life in apples hands as well.

Ok, tired now. Must go to bed. Guessing you will read this in the morning anyway. Good night!
4449  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2015, 11:36:19 PM
Crave:






hahahahahahah

lmao

BUY ALL THE CAVECOIN

That's probably dreamspark dumping some shitcoins
4450  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2015, 11:20:01 PM
Perfect setup for a weekend crash

Don't say that!

I was just now looking at jan 7 to jan 13 on finex and comparing them to april 6 to april 10.

I think it will be ok if we just don't talk about it.
4451  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2015, 11:13:42 PM
What will you all be saying when we're trading in the $1xx range ?

LOL, I checked what I wrote last time!

I see someone had fun when I was gone. Woke up to day 1 after the Apocalypse.

I hope we all agree now: TO DA BLIMMIN, FUDDLING... MOOOOOON!!!!!!
Ha ha & lol! Skål Fatman!

Skål tilbake! Så får vi håpe skuta snur snart!
Yes, but we should write in english 95% of the time, so we don't get ignored. And yes, I hope the tide turns. I put more than I can lose in bitcoin  Grin

It will, it will. I can't imagine anything else. If 5% of the developments in the Bitcoin ecosystem from 2014 catches on, we will be riding the wave past $1000 soon. These chart-nosing day traders forget that there is some really valuable utility backing up the price. And a security network unlike anything ever thought of before.

"....bitcoin miners now have 13,000 times more combined number-crunching power than the world’s 500 biggest supercomputers." - The Economist.

This mofo will take off, big time.
I couldn't agree more. My personal estimates of future value are based on calculations I did comparing other currencies with bitcoin and the role it can play as a global currency Wink
I saw that. It's just hard to grasp the future scope of this technology at the moment.
I remember I got a bit fed up with the linux community in the 90s because, well they were quite rude to newbies, but mainly because they genuinely thought they were going to take over the desktop market with their unpolished glitchy GUI and people would just have to educate themselves in how to use terminal, cause that was the best way to do things(?!?!?!). I thought they had lost the plot.
But behind the scenes people started running apache on outdated machines on linux with great success. Any problem was quickly addressed by enthusiasts who liked to show off their programming skills, and by the end of the 90s much of the internet ran on linux. Now almost all of the internet runs on linux.
That's the kind of development I expect from bitcoin. Yes, some "normal" people will adopt it because they have needs or interests which makes Bitcoin worth the effort, or they are simply enthusiast nutters. But much of the big movements will be behind the scenes, smoothing out the speed bumps and lowering costs for financial institutions and large corporations.
4452  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: BITMAIN announces Antpool on: April 10, 2015, 10:19:54 PM
I have to assume neither of you understand that the pool must estimate the pool's hashrate via a calculation, right?

hashes = shares * share_diff * 2**48 / 65535
so:
MH/s = shares/sec * share_diff * 4295

So if a pool's miner's are lucky and are able to find a share to submit by calculating less hashes than would normally be expected, the pool's hashrate appears to be higher than it actually is.

But do we know if it affects payouts in these cases?
4453  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2015, 10:09:28 PM
What will you all be saying when we're trading in the $1xx range ?

LOL, I checked what I wrote last time!

I see someone had fun when I was gone. Woke up to day 1 after the Apocalypse.

I hope we all agree now: TO DA BLIMMIN, FUDDLING... MOOOOOON!!!!!!
Ha ha & lol! Skål Fatman!

Skål tilbake! Så får vi håpe skuta snur snart!
Yes, but we should write in english 95% of the time, so we don't get ignored. And yes, I hope the tide turns. I put more than I can lose in bitcoin  Grin

It will, it will. I can't imagine anything else. If 5% of the developments in the Bitcoin ecosystem from 2014 catches on, we will be riding the wave past $1000 soon. These chart-nosing day traders forget that there is some really valuable utility backing up the price. And a security network unlike anything ever thought of before.

"....bitcoin miners now have 13,000 times more combined number-crunching power than the world’s 500 biggest supercomputers." - The Economist.

This mofo will take off, big time.
4454  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2015, 09:51:46 PM
Skål!!!!
You Northmen drink too much... (I kinda jealous TBH) Tongue

Skål!!!
4455  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2015, 09:33:10 PM
What will you all be saying when we're trading in the $1xx range ?

LOL, I checked what I wrote last time!

I see someone had fun when I was gone. Woke up to day 1 after the Apocalypse.

I hope we all agree now: TO DA BLIMMIN, FUDDLING... MOOOOOON!!!!!!
Ha ha & lol! Skål Fatman!

Skål tilbake! Så får vi håpe skuta snur snart!
4456  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2015, 09:17:13 PM
What will you all be saying when we're trading in the $1xx range ?

LOL, I checked what I wrote last time!

I see someone had fun when I was gone. Woke up to day 1 after the Apocalypse.

I hope we all agree now: TO DA BLIMMIN, FUDDLING... MOOOOOON!!!!!!
4457  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2015, 08:50:00 PM
What will you all be saying when we're trading in the $1xx range ?
Flowers are purdy, flowers are purdy, flowers are purdy, etc
4458  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2015, 08:34:36 PM
Bu-friggin-hu!!! We wave the white flag now. Can we get this mofo confirmed so we can get on with the bull market, please?

Care to elaborate? Maybe on a chart or something. Love getting to know more "obscure" TA indicators and patterns. The way I see it, it's a bear-fest Sad
No. With my "extensive" knowledge of the market, brevity is key.

You did not even visit my level 1 course "Introcducing in Market Analyses and Dumping" and claim "extensive" knowledge of the market. You trickster!

Shhhhh! I'm trying to trick them dumping bears!
4459  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2015, 08:12:11 PM
Bu-friggin-hu!!! We wave the white flag now. Can we get this mofo confirmed so we can get on with the bull market, please?

Care to elaborate? Maybe on a chart or something. Love getting to know more "obscure" TA indicators and patterns. The way I see it, it's a bear-fest Sad
No. With my "extensive" knowledge of the market, brevity is key.
4460  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2015, 08:09:39 PM
#6 He's already an intelligent and successful individual, with all immediate needs and desires met. He has the understanding that moving or selling his coins could kill off the experiment while in its infancy. The principle and idea is worth more to him than a yacht filled with prostitutes.
If he dumped his coins in a bull run, the worst thing that could happen is that we drop down to $250 for awhile. Those coins wouldn't be a concern, people would track him down and take pictures of him in his yacht with them hoes.. nothing more. Bitcoin doesn't need the myth anymore.
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