Betcoin.ag posted an article about "Haters As A Leading Indicator Of Success by Matt Asay" and asked me what I think. My thoughts were who hate them and how and asked them "Who hates you and how?" They deleted my question and as my question could be never considered as spam, this clearly shows that their self-moderated threads are nothing but censorship threads! Define what kinds of posts will be deleted (expecting this one to be). I was asking what counts as spam to be deleted, but you completely dodged my question (apologies if you interpreted it differently)
They will delete whatever they like and this has nothing to do with whether it is spam or not. Censorship is the keyword, not spam. |
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Get 20 free spins in FUN Casino FrankenSlots for Like&Comment Despite from the point that Betsoft free spins are worthless, it would be a criminal offense to subscribe to the page of a multiple scam and like their nonsense posts. More unlucky, Facebook store all data and forward it to the FBI if you breached criminal laws.  |
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According to Betcoin.ag, they are working on it and WPN (WTN) Sit&Gos will be back:
Betcoin also said that jackpots would be live ~6 months ago and that they weren't stealing BBJ funds and that nobody accessed their private databases and stole customer's personal information. Betcoin lies. If you don't know that, I legit don't understand what you are doing in this thread. You aren't helping the situation, it seems like you are just spamming your site. Please stop. How did you help the situation? From where do you have that info? |
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I answered his questions perfectly: 1) No WPN Sit&Gos = Betcoin.ag is not connected 2) Betcoin.ag mBTC Sit&Gos NEVER run = Betcoin.ag traffic is dead = no customers My explanation for 1) might be wrong, so feel free to post the documents confirming that they refuse it? If Betcoin.ag is a security risk for the WPN skins, then they likely got kicked and not Betcoin.ag refuse to join the WPN Sit&Gos. Betcoin.ag is a criminal operation and they do not care about anything! So they likely would not refuse it, especially as this show that their own Sit&Go is dead = no customers. Opposed to their 77,000 forum members  ...what? I told you exactly what happened. There was a ton of fraud being committed, WTN told Betcoin that they needed better security or else they would be liable for paying the network the money they lost from fraudulent charge-backs that were laundered through Betcoin. Betcoin said "no" because they didn't want to improve their security and didn't want to pay for the fraud that people were committing through their site. According to Betcoin.ag, they are working on it and WPN (WTN) Sit&Gos will be back: what happened to the WPN sit-n-go tourneys?
There was some abuse of the SitnGo's that we are working to fix and integrate them back in among other things. We will certainly keep you posted. Thank you. |
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I answered his questions perfectly: 1) No WPN Sit&Gos = Betcoin.ag is not connected 2) Betcoin.ag mBTC Sit&Gos NEVER run = Betcoin.ag traffic is dead = no customers My explanation for 1) might be wrong, so feel free to post the documents confirming that they refuse it? If Betcoin.ag is a security risk for the WPN skins, then they likely got kicked and not Betcoin.ag refuse to join the WPN Sit&Gos. Betcoin.ag is a criminal operation and they do not care about anything! So they likely would not refuse it, especially as this show that their own Sit&Go is dead = no customers. Opposed to their 77,000 forum members |
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logged in for the first time in a while... what happened to the WPN sit-n-go tourneys? All I see are the mBTC, and they NEVER run... Any info is appreciated
Betcoin.ag join(ed) the WPN Sit&Gos thru the Winning Tournament Network (WTN). Betcoin.ag is no skin on the WPN like ACR, BlackChip, Trupoker, etc.. If the WPN Sit&Gos are not available anymore, they obviously got kicked. Their mBTC Sit&Gos NEVER run, confirms that their own traffic is almost dead. They recently moved to censorship and self-moderated threads and this typically confirms the last stage of their scam/ponzi scheme! Run, run, run... |
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How are you able to pay the 2.27 BTC dividend from only 0.40392651 - 0.80785302 BTC deposited? Do you pay the "dividend" from your pocket or from Clown-Casino FUNC investments? If you have 1.47785302 - 1.87392651 BTC in your pocket to pay the 2.27 BTC dividend, why look for investors then? This does not make any sense...  |
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What does bonus total mean? All players made net 0.5 btc into cash? Yes, according to the faked numbers of Clown-Casino, all players received in total 0.40392651 BTC as bonuses in cash. The bonuses cleared at a 1,1% rate: BET SUM 35.80460000 : 0.40392651 BONUSES = 1,1% |
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Lol at this, I've known Xiao from other poker communities before he affiliated for Betcoin. You have known Xiao from other poker communities before he started the Betcoin.ag scam? Great!  Lol at thinking Xiao is part of Betcoin. I explained perfectly why Xiao is a part of betcoin.ag , feel free to explain why he is not? Also everything about the math and logic is wrong in this post. Curiously you are not able to explain what is wrong and why it is wrong? Did you ever hear about the word content? It appears not! |
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I've just recieved dividends. Good investment )
With 0.40392651 - 0.80785302 BTC deposited 01.09 - 16.09, even the dumbest idiot can see that there is nothing to invest and nothing to pay a dividend! So no, you did not "recieved dividends" Russian colleague |
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BET SUM 35.80460000 - WINS SUM 30.84688000 = 4.95772000 BTC LOSSBONUSES TOTAL 0.40392651 = 0.40392651 - 0.80785302 BTC DEPOSITHow can 0.40392651 - 0.80785302 BTC deposited generate a 4.95772000 BTC LOSS? 0.40392651 - 0.80785302 BTC are deposited while you pay a 2.27 BTC dividend. Hence you pay most of the dividend from the FUNC investments = PONZI SCHEME!!! Where is the NO BET SUM? Free spins are a NO BET. Free spin wins must reduce your GROSS REVENUE...where are they? Again a 200% interest rate per month = 2400% interest rate per year! |
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Great idea, it's good to discuss without someone deleting every negative comment about their site.
However, I do have one question as I am not familiar with BetcoinRakeback; what's wrong with their site that makes them self moderate their own thread? Do they have issues paying out users?
Yes, they did not pay a 500 Bitcoins jackpot BetSoft Non-Payment of Jackpot and customers occasionally report cashout issues: The more concerning part is that their rakeback model is not sustainable! According to main participant and main liar Xiaoxiao, they give in average 100% rakeback: A) It is mathematically and juridically absolute correct to use the average numbers: 1) According to liar Xiaoxiao, his referred players paid BTC75 rake in August 2) 33% fix from betcoin.ag in form of Xiaoxiao + 30% vip rakeback + 25% tablestarter = 88% in average + the countless too good to be true promotions, (do not know) maybe 12% in average = 100% rakeback in average!!! 3) From the BTC75 rake paid in August, betcoin.ag paid 100% back to players and made a 0% gross revenue 4) Xiaoxiao received 40% commission of the BTC75 rake paid = 30 BTC5) Xiaoxiao's or better betcoin.ag's behaviour created a - 30 BTC LOSS in August 6) This clearly confirms that Xiaoxiao is a participant of the betcoin.ag scam (and not only an affiliate), as a legitimate company would never pay 30 BTC from their pocket to a foreign affiliate! B) For the WPN tournaments betcoin.ag join thru the WTN, they receive 50% of the entry fee: 1) If a player pay e.g. a $20 entry fee, betcoin.ag receive $10 2) Betcoin.ag give to the player in average 100% rakeback for the $20 entry fee and this means that they pay $10 = 50% of the entry fee from their pocket! C) Even though betcoin.ag aka Xiaoxiao is a big liar and we should not believe anything, he confimed that the BTC75 rake generated in poker lead to only BTC2,5 revenue in sports and casino. Therefore, the laughable sports and casino revenue can in no way cover the unsustainable rakeback model for poker! This calculation confirms that the betcoin.ag scam pays the too good to be true promotions, 58-133% rakeback = 95,5% average + surprise boxes + affiliate commissions + signature campaigns + software provider fees + employees + infrastructure and whatever costs from the player deposits/not paid jackpot winnings/scams and this is called PONZI SCHEME!If you think that as long as they process withdrawals everything is fine, then you are absolutely wrong! Because if they have an unsustainable business model, they must use the player deposits. Or do you think that the selflessly Xiaoxiao, who only want to help others, pay everything from his own pocket? Betcoin.ag processing withdrawals means nothing more than they have at least 5-10% of the account balances available!Censorship and moving all threads to self-moderated is the clear sign that they are in the last stage of their scam! |
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Betcoin.ag Scam!The Betcoin Casino Terms of Service https://www.betcoin.ag/support/betcoin-casino-terms-service are anyway not valid, because the contract partners and applicable jurisdiction is missing. Betcoin.ag Poker Terms of Service (TOS) BetcoinPoker.com advises You to read all of these documents carefully as each forms part of the legally binding agreement between You and BetcoinPoker.com -> It is juridical not possible to have a legally binding agreement with a domain name! Legally binding agreements are only possible between legal entities or private persons. The “Terms of Service” does also neither state the name of the operator nor a gambling license (if any exist), nothing! -> False and misleading statements are the criminal offense of fraud! Fraud Act 20162 Fraud by false representation(1) A person is in breach of this section if he— (a) dishonestly makes a false representation, and (b) intends, by making the representation— (i) to make a gain for himself or another, or (ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss. (2) A representation is false if— (a) it is untrue or misleading, and (b) the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading. (3) “Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a representation as to the state of mind of— (a) the person making the representation, or (b) any other person. (4) A representation may be express or implied. (5) For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it (or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without human intervention). Betcoin.ag governed in Hong Kong or Curacao or Costa Rica or nowhere?25. GOVERNING LAW
These Agreements shall be governed by and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong. You irrevocably agree to submit to the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of Curacao in The Netherlands Antilles for the settlement of any dispute or matters arising out of or concerning these Agreements or their enforceability. Based on what shall the alleged agreements with Betcoin.ag be governed and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong or Curacao? How could “These Agreements” be governed and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong, while online gambling is not allowed in Hong Kong? Does this make sense? If the Betcoin.ag operation shall be governed by and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong, why do you need to irrevocably agree to submit to the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of Curacao?  Wait, Betcoin.ag scam Casino Terms of Service (TOS) The Agreement and any matters relating hereto shall be governed by, and construed in accordance with the laws of Costa Rica. Each party irrevocably agrees that the relevant courts of Costa Rica shall have exclusive jurisdiction in relation to any claim, dispute or difference between them concerning the Agreement and any matter arising hereunder. 1, 2 or 3, you have to decide, 3 fields are free! So where is it now? Hong Kong or Curacao or Costa Rica or nowhere? Who is the operator of Betcoin.ag? Why is the name not stated on their website? Do you feel comfortable to send your Bitcoins to something while you do not know who the operator is? Here is a guy who won a huge Jackpot, but of course did not receive it: BetSoft Non-Payment of Jackpot
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I do not understand where do you see deposited amount of 0.3242? BONUSES TOTAL = deposited amount 1) Clown-Casino has two categories: NO DEPOSIT BONUSES and BONUSES TOTAL = Deposit Bonuses 2) "NO DEPOSIT BONUSES" is 0.00000000 and therefore "BONUSES TOTAL" = 0.32428651 BTC is logically caused by deposits 3) Clown-Casino offers 100% first deposit and 50% reload bonus. Hence the deposited amount is between 0.32428651 and 0.64857302 BTC As he do not specify whether it is a first deposit or a reload or a mix of it, I consider it as a first deposit = 0.32428651 BTC deposited O.k., let us do the math: ISSUED BONUSES = 0 "NO DEPOSIT BONUSES" + 0.32428651 BTC DEPOSIT BONUSES = 0.32428651 BTCCANCELED BONUSES = "BALANCE CORRECTIONS" = 0 " BONUSES TOTAL" = 0 "NO DEPOSIT BONUSES" + 0.32428651 BTC DEPOSIT BONUSES - 0 "BALANCE CORRECTIONS" = 0.32428651 BTC" BONUSES TOTAL = 0.32428651 BTC DEPOSIT BONUSES = between 0.32428651 and 0.64857302 BTC deposited, based on 50-100% deposit bonus |
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BETS SUM = Total amount of bets
WINS SUM = Total amount of winnings returned to players
GROSS REVENUE = [BETS SUM – WINS SUM] = Gross Gaming Revenue
BONUSES ISSUED = Total amount of issued bonuses for the period
BONUSES CANCELED = Total amount of canceled bonuses for the period
BONUSES TOTAL = [ISSUED – CANCELED] = Actual bonus amounts on players’ accounts
NET REVENUE = [GGR – BONUSES TOTAL] = Gross gaming revenue excluding bonus amounts
"BONUSES ISSUED" is not stated in your faked calculation! And as I already explained to you, the "BALANCE CORRECTIONS" = "BONUSES CANCELED" can not be higher than the "BONUSES ISSUED":  If "NO DEPOSIT BONUSES" is 10.53954310 BTC and you make a BALANCES CORRECTIONS = BONUSES CORRECTIONS of -15.82153761 BTC (as you explained), then "BONUSES TOTAL" is mathematically - 5.28199451 BTC and not -1.16920640 BTC like stated in your faked fantasy table. |
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Hello, you are absolutely right, it's just a total bonuses sum what has nothing common with the deposited one. That guy is just used to leave his negative feedbacks after every new post LOOOL, you clown already have shown several times that you have not the slightest idea about accounting, finance or your faked numbers, but if "NO DEPOSIT BONUSES" is zero, then "BONUSES TOTAL" must be logically deposit bonuses. |
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I do not understand where do you see deposited amount of 0.3242? BONUSES TOTAL = deposited amount 1) Clown-Casino has two categories: NO DEPOSIT BONUSES and BONUSES TOTAL = Deposit Bonuses 2) "NO DEPOSIT BONUSES" is 0.00000000 and therefore "BONUSES TOTAL" = 0.32428651 BTC is logically caused by deposits 3) Clown-Casino offers 100% first deposit and 50% reload bonus. Hence the deposited amount is between 0.32428651 and 0.64857302 BTC As he do not specify whether it is a first deposit or a reload or a mix of it, I consider it as a first deposit = 0.32428651 BTC deposited |
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