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4461  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: February 13, 2016, 02:18:46 PM
My method has always been working hard in a factory...


Now i'm retired and I can claim satoshi for the fun... if you want my satoshi you can get them on my sites.

why is my comment copy/past here?
is this a new way to profit from sign campaign?
4462  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Bonus Bitcoin - Faucet + 5% daily - claim up to 5k satoshi on: February 13, 2016, 02:06:04 PM
all seems ok for me.
...and I see a referral as well
4463  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Where to invest? on: February 13, 2016, 01:59:01 PM
All investing sites is scam in time.
You can make money only if you startt own sites with your bitcois.
More cloudmining,hyip or ptc sites became scam.

How much do you bet?(lol)

But you are clever...you say "in time"...so never proof that you are wrong...realy you are clever...
I thought i were clever...but you are till clever (lol)
4464  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: February 13, 2016, 01:51:06 PM
All the people who have invested for 100 days in my 100 days plan have made profit.
All people who invest in my U2cloudmining system will make profit...it can not be otherwise...
it's just a question of time...
Conclusion:
It is better to invest...(but it depends where) (lol)

Cloud mining is not a bit investment however your ''cloud mining'' site looks more like a ponzi scheme than a real cloud mining site which happens to 99% of the cloud mining companies, there are far better ways to make money and safer.

Well honestly yes he is giving free satoshis and that is true I believe that.

He just doesn't realize that the rewards in his scheme is really low that's why few people recognizing it.

It's year 2016 already. Most people don't want to waste time to that low reward program and there are lots of opportunities open rather than his scheme so why choose a really slow way.

15k satoshis is lot to him. This statement can't be considered as an inspiration for newbies.

#realtalk

15k satoshi is not a lot for me and not a little...
15k satoshi are 15k satoshi for me.

I prefer reading here that my system pays lowly...than reading it is a ponzi sheme.

Sorry it is not a ponzi sheme even if many people prefer investing in ponzi shemes.

I simply propose a realistic "economical" system with potential earning and potential risk.

I have even limited the "global risk" at 0.5BTC
All 215 or so investors can never lose toguether more then 0.5BTC.

So far the maximum global risk is 0.33BTC or so.

Many people here are paranoïac and see on all my sites ponzi shemes...
I understand that I am often confuse...but it is funny to see that people see something with my sites...even if it is wrong what they see...(lol)
It seems if I were running a ponzi...they would see the opposite...(lol)

With my risky U2cloudmining system,I can say one thing:
The more people will participe the more unrisky it will become.
The cost of the system is "fix"...it is then easy to understand that if more people participe...the "cost" is divided...
ok the profit as well,but the profit increases with more participation.
So we have globally:
(income-cost)/participation

It is not so simple to see closer because the "participation" is not same for every one.




4465  Other / Off-topic / Re: I will invest! on: February 13, 2016, 11:55:49 AM
Do not invest in people or something its not worth  it.

Just invest in the bitcoin is the best thing to do.

I also only invest in the bitcoin, you will gain enough profit from it.

if you invest in the bitcoin let's say 0.001BTC
after 100 days (if one does so you say) you have 0.001BTC
if you invest in my 100 days plan after 100 day you have more than 0.001BTC

How can you say that your system is the best?
We do not have the same calculator...(lol)

i cannot understand that on a serious forum such bitcointalk we can read such things without loudly reactions...(lol)
4466  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: freebitco.in - is it even worth it? on: February 13, 2016, 11:25:43 AM
it is now better then few days ago...
I give 50% back to my referrals...
this helps i think that they keep up claiming
4467  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Bonus Bitcoin - Faucet + 5% daily - claim up to 5k satoshi on: February 13, 2016, 11:22:01 AM
Is it worth the time?

Not after they got banned from adsense.
Now payouts are very low.

Before i used it in priority...now only when I have time and mot better under the hand.
4468  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Bonus Bitcoin - Faucet + 5% daily - claim up to 5k satoshi on: February 13, 2016, 09:27:05 AM
What is the overall situation in this? Why no updates in two weeks? Will we ever get the pending balances before 23rd of January? Will there be raise in the rewards or is this site as good as dead?

It looks pretty dead. All my referrals have stopped using it.
And they are 40 000$ on loss if they can't get adsense back.

Yeah, all my referrals are gone too :-/ It may continue on as is, but I highly doubt it'll ever be an amazing faucet like it was before...it'll simply be a decent faucet at best. Losing AdSense dealt them an irretrievable blow.

Some of my referrals are certainly gone as well...but it seems not all.
I give back in dividends my referrer commission so they have interst to keep claiming.
But yes it is verry less than before...
but it is very less on many faucets.
4469  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: L'halving ... une course à la valeur avant et après aussi. on: February 12, 2016, 06:52:50 PM
Horloge animée pour l'halving de juillet : http://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/

pas mal cette page...
c'est quoi la formule du hash rate?
...enfin j'ai trouvé un petit quelque chose mais c'est trop compliqué pour moi (lol)
4470  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cloud Mining - Please help a newbie on: February 12, 2016, 06:46:19 PM
Cloudmining are no longer profitable nowadays. You won't be able to get your ROI in less than a year anymore and this is due to the ever increasing difficulty brought to us by the manufacturers themselves.

you are right and it is in realy even worth than what you say...

it is why it is better to invest in systems about cloudmining and not in cloudmining it self.

Why?
because a winspiral's site make always a little profit.(lol)


No it's not the amount it's the percentage that makes me say yours paid out to little:

Total invested:0.36640338 BTC
Total payout:0.04682193 BTC


Your talking about paying out 12 percent which is horribly low.  And why people should do research before investing.   You compared yourself to a casino, even casino slots have a better chance then 12 percent.

But for those still looking for cloud mine look at hashnest.   It is the best as of now, and know profit is not guaranteed.

I talked about nothing...the 12% is from you.

Ok...go to hashnest were you have 50000 satoshi payout fees...
Good luck if you invest 100000 satoshi...
With my U2cmoudmining you can invest for free...
4471  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN]Claiming for free - investment - comining on: February 12, 2016, 04:52:11 PM
VIP shares have advantages and disadvantages.
VIP shares are (and for a long time normally) cheaper than free shares because the bonus is higher.
Dividends are same for free shares and VIP shares.
BUT...BUT...
VIP shares and VIP bonus shares can never be sold.

If VIP shares are cheaper, it would be helpful to mention the current value somewhere. If VIP shares can not get sold, does that also imply the system will not sell them and therefore those shares continue to produce dividends as long as the site keeps existing?

Sorry for the confusion:
Cheaper is perhaps not the right word because VIP shares are free...but have a value.

I give an example:
The base is always the same.It determinates the value of free shares,of re-invested shares,of sold shares and VIP shares.
But the bonus changes.
For the same work (a claim) you get more "VIP shares" than "normal shares"...it is why I have said they are cheaper.

Yes VIP shares produce dividends so long the site keeps existing.


The vip share are not sold means in fact they are sold but immediately it is re-invested in vip shares.
let's suppose in the system are:
0.4 shares and 0.1 VIP shares and 0.1 BTC (next payout)
After a system selling of 1%
we have in the system:
0.396 shares and 0.1 VIP shares and 0.104 BTC (next payout)

We can see that number of shares in system can increase or decrease.
But number of VIP shares in system can only increase.










4472  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Are all cloud mining sites ponzis? on: February 12, 2016, 01:40:26 PM
I heard that the cloud mining sites don't actually mine themselves. Are they all ponzi schemes?
Some of them they disguise themselves us cloud mining site but actually they are ponzi scheme and they don't really have mining rigs liek what they claim,have been vicimized by these so called mining sites a lot of times,if they can provide their payout address and their actual location then they are ponzi scheme..

Of course they are all ponzi shemes and scams.
Stay away from cloudmining if you are not sure about the webmaster and the mining farm.
4473  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] Mellow Ads - simple, bitcoin advertising. NEW free faucet!! on: February 12, 2016, 01:35:08 PM
Earnings has been pretty low last few days.

yes but it was better today...
4474  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Bonus Bitcoin - Faucet + 5% daily - claim up to 5k satoshi on: February 12, 2016, 01:32:33 PM
My last withdrawal was sent only few hours later...
if it is sent it is ok...
4475  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN]Claiming for free - investment - comining on: February 12, 2016, 01:29:29 PM
Quote
Total accounts:213 accounts.
Total claimed for free:0.00754216 BTC
Total invested:0.36649356 BTC
Total pending investment:0.3307034956 BTC
Total pending payout:0.0128708572 BTC
Total payout:0.04683217 BTC
Number of claiming:1308 times
Number of selling:16 times.
Number of re-invest:6 times.
Number of VIP claiming:0 times.
Selling bonus:83.125%
Claiming bonus:1.01681957187%
Re-invest bonus:102.307692308%
VIP bonus:133%

What is VIP bonus?
It is now possible to become a VIP investor for free.
But be careful...it is perhaps not interesting.
The interest is "market regulated".

VIP shares have advantages and disadvantages.
VIP shares are (and for a long time normally) cheaper than free shares because the bonus is higher.
Dividends are same for free shares and VIP shares.
BUT...BUT...
VIP shares and VIP bonus shares can never be sold.
Do the best for you !!!
It is normally never the same situation.
4476  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best way to earn Bitcoins? on: February 12, 2016, 10:25:36 AM
The best way to earn bitcoins is to buy them from another currency and sell for higher price,
claim from bitcoin faucet,mining is not so much profitable i think.

I see you have not tried my U2cloudmining system where you have mining and trading and faucet in the same pack...
and the risk is low or even very low if you use only the free way...

As webmaster I see for how much people claim on faucets...it is no doubt that thay do not know winspiral's faucets...
All people who claim on faucets under 400 satoshi have lost opportunity to claim more...
people are talking wrong about faucets because they know only faucets with low reward.
4477  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cloud Mining - Please help a newbie on: February 12, 2016, 10:17:01 AM
Cloudmining are no longer profitable nowadays. You won't be able to get your ROI in less than a year anymore and this is due to the ever increasing difficulty brought to us by the manufacturers themselves.

you are right and it is in realy even worth than what you say...

it is why it is better to invest in systems about cloudmining and not in cloudmining it self.

Why?
because a winspiral's site make always a little profit.(lol)
4478  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Where to invest? on: February 12, 2016, 10:07:01 AM
you can invest on hashocean, if you will invest under my ref, 50% from your earning i will return to you, if interested, sent me pm

Hashocean is a scam! Don't fall on this! Be aware of cloudminings in general

Cheers!

Be aware in general but not in particularal (lol)
people have always to be aware...
4479  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cloud Mining - Please help a newbie on: February 12, 2016, 09:13:19 AM
So, one can start mining at www.cloudmining.website now only with 0.016 BTC and get an ROI within 3 to 4 months ?

cloudmining.website is generally believed to be a scam.


certainly not true for bit-x and hashnest, they are proven to be legit

then if you can not reach roi, that's another story, but has nothign to do with being scammer or not

+1000
many people here believe that if they do not profit they are scammed...


If they were talking to you it could be to do with signature of "(up to 152% bonus market regulated)".  It makes it sound like a big profit... some might say that is misleading to put up to.   That it would be more realistic to put your average return...

So not everyone is innocent.  Things such as when you buy hash from most genuine cloud mining services do not use "up to" or other unrealistic words.  Look at hashnest you will see what honest looks like.

Made shorter much smaller ... was a long post look above to see it.

Quote
Total accounts:212 accounts.
Total claimed for free:0.00746222 BTC
Total invested:0.36640338 BTC
Total pending investment:0.3315961577 BTC
Total pending payout:0.0115563416 BTC
Total payout:0.04682193 BTC
Number of buying:1292 times
Number of selling:16 times.
Number of re-invest:4 times.
Selling bonus:82%
Claiming bonus:1.01547987616%
Re-invest bonus:100.923076923%
....
Have a nice day...

There are two numbers that stick out to me total invested vs total payout:

Total invested:0.36640338 BTC
Total payout:0.04682193 BTC

Your talking you have .31 BTC invested over payout.  You have paid out around 12 percent of invested if I read it right.  Does that sound horrible?  I think so.  But maybe I'm reading it wrong.

It seems you are reading it right.
The topic is not how it sounds now.
It does only matter how it sounds in the future.
It is not know in advance.it is not a poker casino where if $100 are paid in...$90 go to the winners.
Here it (my system)  is real econnomy.

People know the situation of the present...and of the past if they have followed...
Noboddy knows the future...
People analyse and bet on the future.
If they see pink...(lol)they invest and buy shares.
If they see light pink...(lol) they have other possibilities:
&&&claiming for free.
&&&reinvest shares.
&&&selling shares if the bonus is interesting.

If they see grey:
They only claim for free and sell shares.

if they see black:
They stay away...

Soon it will even be possible to claim for free VIPshares:
VIPshares will be very risky because they cannot be resold...

As you can see:
The U2cloudmining is a funny game were people can do what they want if they want.
One likes it or not.
I like poker and dislike classic casino games...It is so...why should I denigree classic casino games?




4480  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: I am out of the mining game :( on: February 12, 2016, 08:40:32 AM
Yeah, basically that's why we need the Bitcoin price rising, it would be easier to roi then. But actually it looks like it has started already, we have $385 now and only yesterday it was like $375 as I can remember. Let's cross fingers so it won't go back again.
Problem is that if the price goes up more miners pile in and difficulty skyrockets. Besides, why not just buy the bitcoin anyway and sell when it goes up.

Mining is a queen's race. And it's not possible to make long term economic profit in a game like mining. Too perfect competition.

you are right...because it is logic...

Open a bread shop in a village...without breadshop...
you will certainly make profit...
if a second person opens one...the situation is different already...
if many people open...perhaps you will even loose...
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