Supported this view with a merit and completely agree with it
Recently I tried to install a plain vanilla Ethereum wallet (actually, both of them, i.e. Ethereum Wallet and Mist). And to say that I was disappointed is to say nothing as I couldn't even import an existing private key in it despite doing everything by the manual (using geth and so on). Somehow, I expected a more mature product from a project that has been sticking around for so many years. It was a def red flag for me to stay away from Ethereum (apart from aggressively shorting it on rebounds, of course)
Agreed. Some said that it cannot dissaper from top 10 due to the amount of ICOs build on etherum (at liest 1000 tokens in coinmarketcap are build on ether). Well every suceed project moves to their own blockchain. VET, BNB, EOS and many more. Etherum become home for scam projects and kindergarden for few good projects which stops using ETH as soon as its popularity enable to start its own blockchain. ETH for now is not scalable enought to hold the load from 1 project that hit mass adopion. Not even talking about rest 1000 tokens. Maybe thats why waves is beeing pumped so hard during last few weeks. Maybe its beeing prepered to overtake ether during next bull run. |
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Well after breaking 6k support we should see at liest restest of this levels is short time. But we didnt. Price dropped down to 3k where it stops (without significant bounce). It means that market is weaker that it should and it was holded above 6k support by price manipulation. It wont turn to bearis by magic stick. It needs strong news or build middle term walue close to 3k support what will take at liest half year staying in 3-4,5k range. Or break 3k support and find stronger one closer to 2k or 1k. Also 1 bored whale with tones of money can push price to 20k tommorow  - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4460964.msg39964620#msg39964620 |
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Lets face it- BTC is total worthless- its garbage and you cant use it for anything
Last years bullrun had nothing to do with BTC beeing innovativ or anything- the only reason BTC reached this price levels is because of bitconnect and Ethereum ICOs
for bitconnect and to take part in eth icos the easiest way was to buy bitcoin and than invest in bitconnect- buying bcc coins
same with ethereum ICOs- majority of people bought BTC than traded it for ETH and than investing in eth ICOs
so if btc wouldnt have been around it would have even been much better if someone was abe to invest directly in bitconnect or ethereum.
Mike Novogratz is a shill from the worst kind- same with this other BTC shill Tone Vays
Face it BTC fanboys- your coin is garbage and noone can use it for anything- the only reason it had any usage was in the beginning when people used it to buy drugs on the darknet but other than that- screw bitcoin
and even lightning cant save this crap
And on the next bullrun ethereum will outperform btc again- especially when people are than able to purchase eth directly with fiat.
now prove me wrong, lol
"now prove me wrong, lol" 10 year old child can prove you wrong. 99% of crypto society learn about crypto from bitcoin and its crazy bull runs. It reach 20k not because it was usefull to buy altcoins (situation changed since now? why isnt it around 20k now? Is there less alts to buy?). It reached 20k by massive whale speculation just to show crypto world to masses. To bring money from street to crypto world by showing everyone "look if you were invested 1000$ in bitcoin in 2012 you will be reach now". Thats why it reached 20k. Etherum is only altcoin with unfinished product full of bugs. There are dozens similar projects like waves, eos, trx, nem, stellar, neo. Etherum can disapper from top 100 in next bull run just like those coins from top 10 in december 2013. And its even more possible that overtaking bitcoin. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20131229/Omni -90%
Peercoin -80%Namecoin - 75%
Quark -95%
Bitshares -~100%
Wordcoin -~100%Last years bullrun had nothing to do with BTC beeing innovativ or anything- the only reason BTC reached this price levels is because of bitconnect and Ethereum ICOs
for bitconnect and to take part in eth icos the easiest way was to buy bitcoin and than invest in bitconnect- buying bcc coins
Yea. I think that less than 1% of crypto society entered crypto world because of interesting ico that he found. And those are not whales. Those are nerds with 1000-10 000$ to invest in. Its not the amount of money that will change price. Last thing. If you buy bitcoin [btc price go up], than buy altcoin in ICO for your btc [btc price constant] than ICO team sells your bitcoin for dollars to pay for everyday spendings [btc price go down]. You see that its not pumping price... |
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I mean, just as always, it's just either it will rise, drop, or it's going to continue to flat out from here. Is there actually something special about that green line? I mean, you could probably draw the same line at multiple different price points and they don't necessarily end up with a "crucial event". Time will tell I guess?
Agreed. Dozens of lines like that bitcoin broke already. It is said by experienced traders ... If you want to trade technical firstly check if chart act technically. Simply ... bitcoin was not in uptrend to turn to downtrend. Bitcoin was in bubble formation breaking one uptrend and another and another. now its in burst-bubble one and is breaking one downtrend by another by another and none of them are crucial because bitcoin is not asset that act technical ... at liest according to trend lines.  |
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BTC To Under 100$ BUT is good for Market, It not going to be happen in 1 day, but we are in down trend since BTC ATH (20k$),
SO Why its is Good for market and bitcoin ? More people want to buy BTC at cheaper price So when BTC price is under 1000$ they will get a good opportunity to join in the game, now Most people even dont know what is BTC.
So Cheaper BTC = More Investor will join to the game and BTC will be more popular BEFOR NEW ATH.
New ATH could be 200K$, But not before BTC price correction which is Under 100$.
What will be happened to BTC miner?
BTC Miner will be stop mining BTC, when price is under 100$ but thatz fine, Nothing will be happened to BTC if they stop minig it mean only 1 thing, increasing Demand and Increasing Price, Most miner will be from 3rd world countries ( India , ... )
BTC price will rise only If it get more popular.
Do you know how current BTC price is expensive for people in 3rd world countries like India? they need to save $ for 2 years to buy 1 BTC,
We need all of this people to invest in BTC.
bunch of nonsense. Low btc price wont help in mass adoption. Noone who dont know about bitcoin now wont know about it at 100$ price. Only massive pump makes everyonone eyes looking at bitcoin. Everyone is saing - look bitcoin is at 100k if I invested in 2017 i would have 10 times more. I need to buy it now beafore it hit 1 mil. What will make poeople from 3rd word to buy bitcoin fo 100$ knowing the fact that it could cost 10$ next few years. Massive pumps bring attention to coins. |
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I always advice newbies to hold and never go short or long with high leverage.
Holding is the most risky strategy. Especialy for newbie. I described it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4456137.msg39881422#msg39881422Daytrading is the safest way to earn on this market. When you are experienced trader you know how big risk you are taking. Simply when you put 1000$ with 1% stoploss you are risking 10$. After 10 waste trades you can stop, change strategy and you wasted 100$. You know exacly where you are, what risk you take and you can stop every moment. If you are unexpirienced trader you can start with lowest bet (~4 $ on binance). What can go wrong? In worst case you will close trade after few hours with 3,6$ wasting 0.40$. Its cheapest way to learn trading. While in hodling strategy you opened 1 trade and after 2 months you are 80% loss. Because whole market went down/ you choose wrong coin due to wrong research/ you did your job good but the team scamed you. You lost your money and didnt learn anything. Is there any worst strategy? |
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I never really thought about it, but it seems like you are right. However, I just decided to skim Hitbtc's terms of use and I didn't find anything about them using users' funds for their own purposes (the exception is security measures, but that's not what you were talking about). Moreover, when I went though blockchain.info terms, I found quite the opposite: The Wallet is provided to you exclusively by Blockchain Luxembourg S.A. At no point will Blockchain ever take custody or control over Virtual Currency stored in your Wallet So perhaps, even though they could write down one balance and actually transfer money elsewhere, they don't do it, because they are not banks and don't want to lose the trust of people. Interesting. I've never checked what's on my exchange addresses. Let's do it now... I've put my bitcoin exchange address into explorer to check if there are my coins. There were 2 deposits (all mine with total amount equal to my deposit balance). Since those deposits I've tripled amount of bitcoins due to trading and daytrading. Where are rest of my bitcoins? I don't know and i don't have any possibility to check it. Then i realised that actually my bitcoin balance is currently equal to 0 btc because all my bitcoins are into trades. So I have 0 btc na x amount of etherum alts. I put etherum wallet into explorer and its empty. It means that i have someone bitcoins on my exchange address and someone has all my altcoins (if they actually exist). I think exchanges can cheat in this way without loosing trust because its untraceable. And of course they won't put that in terms. As for the blockchain into wallet. If its possible to check if your ballance is ok by public key on other explorers than I think that its impossible to fake balances and move coins. Thus its impossible for them to function in fractional reserve system. I encourage you to vote in poll. I'm realy interrested in your opinion. |
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Dzięki Zachęcam do brania udziału w ankiecie. Ciekawi mnie, jak wielu z was podziela moje zdanie. |
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Pęknąłem dziś i odebrałem po 0.000115 zamiast 0.000110 tą część co wcześniej sprzedałem. To aż niemożliwe, że ten news tak długo nie przychodzi
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You are right that its overestimated and some of those "lost bitcoins" will be "found" someday, but no doubt amount of lost bitcoins is constantly incrising. Just imagine what will happend with your bitcoins after you die. Does anyone other knows where and how you store them? What is the password to unlock wallet? Maybye your whife knows that but what if you both die in car accident? This is happening every day. Every day amount of lost bitcoins is increasing.
Offline wallets are interresting. I need to read more about them but i dont see practical usage of transferring money without actually moving it, e.g. through a network.
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Miałem tam konto. Na szczęście puste. Pytanie czy faktycznie hack czy może już dawno zaczęli sprzedawać coiny użytkowników i teraz przerosły ich wypłaty. Ostatnio jakoś zwątpiłem w giełdy i ich uczciwość. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5094172.msg49099952#msg49099952Co do ZIL to jest już drogo moim zdaniem. 30 % urosło od mojego postu i na oko 80% od dołka. Do newsa od binance jeszcze daleko, więc pewnie pod to pompowane nie będzie, chyba że pod mainnet sam w sobie. Jest w ładnym trendzie na h4 i tu można szukać wejścia na dołkach z ciasnym stoplossem i może pociągnie dalej. Wszystko zależy od tego gdzie będzie szedł w tym czasie cały rynek z bitcoinem na czele. Obecna hossa trwa już z 2 miesiące. Sporo coinów porobiły po 200% - 400% (alt/btc). Jak się skończy to wszystko poleci pytanie tylko kiedy się skończy ... w grudniu 1000% się zdarzalo |
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Udało mi się kilka coinów kupić a na HOTBITcie dzisiaj +34% żałuję teraz że tak mało kupiłem.
Myślisz że jeszcze będzie jakaś "akcja" czy sprzedajemy...
Czy może zostawiać na longa?
No ja wczoraj po 0.000135-0.000140 sprzedałem 20% pozycji. Nie mogłem sobie odmówić zaksięgowania chociaż części 35% zysku Może odkupię po 0.000110 jak zejdzie tak nisko przed newsem. Obecnie odradzam zakupy. A już na pewno nie na "longa". To drogi projekt (top 50 coinmarketcap), o którym jest strasznie cicho. Codzienny obrót na binance jeden z gorszych - <50 btc - poza pompą, bo obecnie 2500 btc. Mamy więc do czynienia z typowym pump and dump. Jeśli wieloryb robiący tą pompę nie zdecyduje się na druga falę, to będziemy oglądać powolne wykrwawianie się, a sam news może sie nie rozwinąc i od razu zostać zdumpowany przez niego jako okazja do wyjścia. Wchodzenie w long to czysta loteria, a brak zainteresowania projektem poza pompą przemawia in minus. Zwłaszcza, że nie robiłem żadnego głębszego researchu dot. tego coina. Jak pisałem wcześniej Nie oceniam czy są to porządne coiny, czy shitcoiny. Nie zachęcam również do zakupów. Sądzę tylko, że jest duże prawdopodobnieństwo szybkiego zarobku na nich w najbliższych 2 miesiącach.
Dziś są, jutro może ich nie być, a jest z czego spadać. BTW. Czemu handlujesz na tak małej giełdzie? Przy obrocie 20k $ na AE na pompie musi być straszny spread. Polecam binance. |
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Nie wiadomo. Bo wtedy mógłby zarobić ktoś więcej niż tylko insiderzy:) Ale widziałem jak na telegramie odpowiadali pytani admini, czy będzie wsparcie to mówili, że binance zawsze wspiera wszystkie swapy, więc ten też prędzej czy później będzie. Wiec tylko kwestia czasu, a wiadomo, że jest im to na rękę, bo inaczej zamykają się na arbitraż. Ja ciągle trzymam zbierane po 0.000101 - 0.000103 i czekam spokojnie na news. Patrząc na kurs to wydaje mi się, że jesteśmy blisko.
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Bitcoin is very much deflationary, because if we imagine that it has replaced all fiat tomorrow, it would very soon (within a decade) reach the point when the amount of value created by its emission (network rewards) will become lower than the growth of economy, thus resulting in deflation, meaning the decrease general price levels. But since Bitcoin is too small to influence the economy, the most noticeable effect would be Bitcoin's own price increase over time, although this effect can easily be buried beneath volatility, just like it happens with gold.
There are 2 definitions of deflation. The right one (decrise of supply) and the mass adoption scam one (decrise of average prices). I think that we should use the right one. Saying that bitcoin is deflation coin i mean that soonly it will become due to very low distribution and the amount of bitcoin beeing constantly destroyed due to wrong transfers, lost keys etc. Perhaps its deflation coin now. We dont know exact number of bitcoins beeing lost each year. I heard that currently 30% of bitcoins are lost. |
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Its frightening that, according to poll, everyone who voted, agreed that crypto exchanges are using Fractional-Reserve system. It means that we no longer have maximum of 21 mil bitcoins. I think that this should be spread widely and be beggining of long discussion ended with solution which will help us, crypto society, fight against creating off-chain bitcoins
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Zgadza się. Dzień wydarzenia to dzień realizacji zysków, chyba, że podczas wydarzenia nastapiły jakieś czynniki, które przerosły oczekiwania inwestorów. W przeciwnym wypadku (przy spełnieniu oczekiwań, lub nie spełnieniu) kurs dołuje, bo brakuje w nim elementu "trzymania" ... kupiłem pod news, news jest, kolejnego nie bedzie, to przesiadam się na coś, gdzie są lepsze perspektywy wzrostowe i to powoduje lawinę o której mówisz. Dlatego też zaznaczam w opisanej strategii, że realizacja zysków nastąpi w dniu publikacji przez binance wsparcia swapa na krótkiej pompie (pump and dump).
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Postanowilem odświeżyć temat. Może się rozrusza i ktoś jeszcze dołączy do konkursu. Przy okazji dorzucam kolejny post od siebie, który wydaje mi się warty przeczytania. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5094172.msg49099952#msg49099952 - bardzo ważny temat dotyczący faktu kreowania bitcoinów poza blockchainem. Aż szkoda, że brak dyskusji w tym temacie. |
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So you are saying that the traditional money creation system is worthy and you want to bring it in a decentralized ecosystem?
No advantage stems from the bank money creation. It does only create bigger liabilities and debt. I see no reason to implement this feature to the currenct ecosystem.
No my friend. I'm saying that it is possible that it is already happening in crypto and i'm saying that we need to find strategy how to fight with it. I am already aware (and got chances to know from an exchange operator itself) that exchanges are misusing our funds for their own trading purposes but never thought about how it will impact for dumping bitcoin's price itself. I am personally following and keep suggesting not to keep cryptos in exchange but for the reason of hacking scare, but never got time to think in your perspective even after hearing about those misusing.
Thats for sharing this. It confirms my thoughts that holding coins on exchange harms not only individuals who do that but whole crypto society. |
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Problem w tym, że trzymając coiny pod trading na nano S nie ustawisz żadnych zleceń oczekujących w tym stoplossa. Poza tym musisz się liczyć z tym, że nie wykorzystasz optymalnie każdej sytuacji, bo zanim przelejesz coiny na giełdę to cena może już spaść. Giełdy narzucają również spore prowizje za wypłacanie środków (w zależności od tego jaki coin wypłacasz). Ja w sumie zaakceptowałem ryzyko utraty środków z giełdy, bo trzymam po trading tylko pewną ich część, a i tak są rozdzielone na 3 konta, na 2 gieldach.
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