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4501  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Strike and HRF posted three challenges with 1 BTC reward each on: May 31, 2022, 07:18:11 PM
Is it just me, or is Challenge 2 vague and confusing?
That.

What's the benefit of pegging your Lightning balance to USD? And how exactly is this supposed to work? Like, creating 1 L-USD for each 3,000 Lightning sats? Doesn't make any sense. Bitcoin is free money; a currency on its own. And so is USD. Whoever wants to switch, utilize trading.

Challenge 3: E-Cash

1 BTC to a FOSS non-custodial wallet that gives their users the option to enter into a (likely) custodial arrangement where Bitcoin can be sent to other users of that wallet using Chaumian e-cash. The arrangement should be such that the wallet administrators cannot know the identity of their users, their balances, or transaction histories. One suspects this would be a federated system, but all submissions will be considered.
Reminds me of something. What can have possibly happened to that old soul, nullius, I wonder.
4502  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: My Four (4) Tips On How I Handle Criticism on Bitcointalk Forum on: May 31, 2022, 06:24:54 PM
The thing I like about bitcointalk is that it only has constructive criticism, from what I've seen two years now. If you don't understand all this bitcoin terminology, just make an account here, that's what I did; I nearly knew a thing before. Now I know that I know nothing.  Smiley

There are lots of helpful folks. Stackexchange is also useful, but that's a little much for techie stuff only.
4503  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Silent payments on: May 31, 2022, 05:30:51 PM
If an attacker can change public keys, he can steal funds instead of monitor the transaction. That's the same result as an attacker who changes the Bitcoin address.
Yes, but I guess what @oryhp says is that if you communicate without a secure connection you can't be sure there isn't someone spying on you without you knowing it. Sure, he can take the money, but what's more valuable? Depends on your threat model.  Tongue

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe because creating a new address for each visitor means they have generate and monitor millions of addresses.
You only need to derive millions of addresses from one master public key, and save those with a balance.
4504  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could Bitcoin's transparency be its downfall? on: May 31, 2022, 02:11:21 PM
The problem, as you alluded to, is that we can evade all kinds of laws with software and technology, but in the end we live in a society that has rules, like not to launder money.
This wasn't my point. My point was that if an entity perpetually brainwashes everyone and tries to create a bad picture of bitcoin for their own benefit, you shouldn't bow your head and admit you're doing things wrong. For example, if few politicians state that bitcoin wastes too much energy and advise against its usage, don't try to change the code; the problem isn't into the code. We've spent hours on this debate, and we've debunked it.

Same goes for KYC. There's no study that reveals less criminal activity due to this undoubtedly extravagant requirements of personal info. Pretty much the opposite, it's extremely dangerous; it encourages identity theft, scams and helps scammers stay undetected. The reason the governments want it, and exchanges often intentionally add it, is control. It makes mass surveillance work more easily and effectively, it's moneymaking from the CEX's perspective, it's advantageous for chain analysis which brings even more money etc., all these entities cooperate for control.

So, when a CEX imposes KYC or some other arbitrary rule, such as "tainted coins", don't try to figure out a technical solution, such as improving privacy on a protocol level with cryptography. Just don't use the exchange.
4505  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Silent payments on: May 31, 2022, 01:43:13 PM
And what are the ways to bypass such attack when using silent payment?
If Alice and Bob communicate through a secure transfer protocol, such as with SSL certificates, then MITM attack becomes more difficult to execute. And they should, with or without silent payments. Otherwise, their internet provider and the server they use to communicate can de-anonymize them.

Let's say TPB accept Silent payments. Someone sends them a donation, which confirms on-chain. Nobody else can know TPB is the receiver, because they can't know which on-chain address belongs to their Silent payment.
So why they don't just generate a brand new address in each refresh, for each visitor?
4506  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: How much text can you put in a bitcoin message? on: May 31, 2022, 07:15:06 AM
Does this actually work with 0 sats?
Yes, because it doesn't take space in the UTXO set. OP_RETURN outputs are simply ignored.
4507  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: SeedSigner: Review on: May 30, 2022, 06:18:51 PM
but you didn't say if you ordered that orange pill case from third party or you  3d printed it yourself?
I ordered it from gobrrr.

I have to say there are much better and smaller SeedSigner cases and I prefer them instead of this default option
Yep, but I thought the default would be a better option. Proved wrong.  Tongue

Most people would just use default entropy generation that is not really random nor secure, that is why they decided to go this direction.
Which thing isn't random nor secure exactly? Pi's RNG? urandom?

If you make any mistake during this process you can only blame yourself, not SeedSigner aka Rpi.
But, I don't blame them for my possibly less unpredictable entropy. Of course and it's my responsibility to ensure the dice is fair. But, you don't get to force me go with your way, just because you think it's right. This attitude is translated to a little disrespect, one might say, towards actual cryptographers who've studied more than you've done, and have concluded to using a CSPRNG.

Let me choose a "Use Pi's RNG" option, and if you don't recommend it, show a warning.
4508  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could Bitcoin's transparency be its downfall? on: May 30, 2022, 05:52:47 PM
So, I think we know how to protect Bitcoin from censorship. My answer is just "we should write a better code".
Why do I have a feeling that this is the wrong path? I agree with all you've said, and bitcoin can, indeed, become more private overtime, but answering with "let's just write a better code" implies that what's causing this taint propaganda is the code.

I sort of agree with this:
Quote from: Unknown
You will not find a solution to political problems in cryptography.

Bitcoin solves no political problems, but only practical and technical. And we're seeing this everyday. I can move millions of dollars for a nickle (practical) or move money across the world anonymously (technical). But, there's no such mechanism that can give a solution to the abrupt rise of KYC. No, decentralized exchanges don't. They mitigate trust, same as with bitcoin, because things work more properly that way; because trust costs. But, both solutions are apolitical.

See monero. It's, supposedly, more private than bitcoin. What has happened? Most CEX's have blacklisted it, less and less merchants dare to accept it, people beyond the crypto space are constantly brainwashed etc. Is the problem in the code?
4509  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: SeedSigner: Review on: May 30, 2022, 04:29:37 PM
Since, most other hardware wallets don't offer this, you could potentially even argue that this is an additional expense that isn't really needed.
It's necessary. Without the camera you can't scan the PSBT from your computer's monitor.
4510  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: How much text can you put in a bitcoin message? on: May 30, 2022, 03:25:36 PM
I would like to send BTC and put a message in it. Can someone guide me?
Which wallet do you use? In Electrum, enter OP_RETURN and, right after, your hexadecimally represented message. For example, this message:
Code:
The Times 30/May/2022 Football's night of shame
Hex: 5468652054696d65732033302f4d61792f3230323220466f6f7462616c6c2773206e69676874206f66207368616d65


Check the transaction, made in testnet, on a block explorer: d1cc92eb8af8e21f11177886a95ccda37c5236eafa170a446c031da6f8834a1d
4511  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / SeedSigner: Review on: May 30, 2022, 01:50:15 PM
Prologue
So, a month ago, I was trying to find out which hardware wallet should I buy. My conditions were simple; it had to be open-source and I had to make the purchase in the most private way possible. My only option was to buy BitBox 1, but it happens to be old, deprecated and their developers aren't known for being privacy seekers, which really underwhelmed me.

My only choice was to purchase a hardware wallet outside my country using a poste restante, which I didn't want to do for personal reasons. But, then dkbit98 suggested something I hadn't thought of; do the job with a Pi.
I don't know if you want to use hardware wallet just for Bitcoin or for other shitcoins, but if it's only for good old BTC than you can buy Raspberry Pi zero locally and make your own SeedSigner signing device.

And so I did. I bought a RPi Zero, a camera, a little screen and a few other stuff, and built a SeedSigner; an air-gapped hardware wallet signing device, which takes security into the next level.  Wink

Disclaimer: There's no affiliation with SeedSigner and this thread isn't sponsored. I just bought it and share my thoughts.




Review


In summary:

Pros:

Cons:
  • Little hard setup
  • Experimental software; the project is, well from what I can judge, in an early stage
  • Works only with BlueWallet, Nunchuk, Sparrow, Specter Desktop
  • It's forcing you to generate the entropy yourself




Alright, let's begin.

SeedSigner aims to give a solution to one problem; the cost and complexity of multi-sig usage. However, at the same time, it can be used for single-sig setups, lowering the cost of your "hot" storage as well. There's nothing saved inside the SD card, besides your settings which is optional, therefore there's less danger for funds' loss. When you shut down SeedSigner, it erases the seeds; they're meant to be kept temporarily in memory and you have to import the seed on each startup. And that's basically one of the features that makes SeedSigner differentiate.

This has the following advantage: You can have the device on plain sight (don't, but you get the idea). As far as I understand, this is implemented to reduce the risk of money loss. For cold storage, create the QR code and find a good hiding spot. For daily transactions, you can just insert it into your drawer etc., without minding much.


For quick imports, use QR scanning:



Unfortunately, you can't create a new seed with an internal RNG. SeedSigner somewhat forces you to generate the entropy yourself. Either with a picture or dice rolls.


I get the spirit of "trust none!", but that's just wrong. It should allow you to generate random entropy, even with a warning. Furthermore, it gives a false sense of security. If you don't test the dice is decently fair, then you shouldn't generate a wallet. Period. Quoting a forum legendary is needed here:
Coders who make their own ad hoc randomness schemes are like kids playing with matches.

Hashing a picture can also be problematic, see thread: Turn photos into Bitcoin wallets. So, here's a feedback: Include /dev/urandom. Simple. Do it for those who want to avoid this fuss.

This is how they justify it:

One thing I also don't understand is how the rolls are 50/99 exactly. Doesn't each give 1.66 bits of entropy on average?  



These are the features:
Feature Highlights:
  • Calculate word 12/24 of a BIP39 seed phrase
  • Create a 24-word BIP39 seed phrase with 99 dice rolls
  • Create a 24-word BIP39 seed phrase by taking a digital photo
  • Temporarily store up to 3 seed phrases while device is powered
  • Guided interface to manually create a SeedQR for instant input (demo video here)
  • BIP39 passphrase / word 25 support
  • Native Segwit Multisig XPUB generation w/ QR display
  • Scan and parse transaction data from animated QR codes
  • Sign transactions & transfer XPUB data using animated QR codes (demo video here)
  • Live preview during photo-to-seed and QR scanning UX
  • Optimized seed word entry interface
  • Support for Bitcoin Mainnet & Testnet
  • Support for custom user-defined derivation paths
  • On-demand receive address verification
  • User-configurable QR code display density
  • Responsive, event-driven user interface

One thing I've forgotten to say is that, besides open-source, the code is also easy to read. It's 100% written in Python, and there aren't many files to check. It doesn't take more than an hour. The src/seedsigner/models is what's all about.



How to use it

These are the steps to spend money:
  • Create a seed.
  • Export the master public key with a QR code.
  • Import the master public key to a wallet software. (From the available, I prefer Sparrow*)
  • Create a transaction.
  • Export the PSBT in QR code from your computer's screen.
  • Scan the QR code from SeedSigner.
  • Sign the transaction from Seed Signer.
  • Export the signed transaction in QR code.
  • Scan the QR code from your computer.
  • Broadcast the signed transaction

Ta-da! Transaction signed in the air!  Shocked

*Sparrow is a wallet I'd never used, as I put Electrum above others, but I'll have to admit it's good. Perhaps even better than Electrum. The reason you can't use Electrum (at least not easily) is because it doesn't support animated QR codes, which is the way SeedSigner exports xpub keys and signs transactions. That's because the screen isn't big enough.





No, these cool, freshly 3D printed mined bitcoins in the images above aren't included in the SeedSigner Kit.  Tongue
4512  Other / Meta / Re: BADecker can do this ... on: May 30, 2022, 06:34:10 AM
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This sounds like a good idea, although I have a doubt, but it's not the core of the problem. The thing is, this proposal, disappointingly, reveals that this forum lacks on implementing these few rules it has. If a person plagiarizes, posts death threats, creates literally zero quality content and irritates the rest in a dozen other ways, we shouldn't just ignore him because there's a "Shitposter" below his username.

He has to to get banned.
4513  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What would you do if you are me on: May 29, 2022, 03:24:10 PM
You shouldn't expect that an Antivirus will keep you safe from every malware out there. The safest option is probably to have an air-gapped machine that is only used to sign transactions, and that's the thing I'd do if I were you. Do you have any computers or laptops left over? Make them air-gapped. If you can't or don't want to, then the second best option is to buy a hardware wallet, although you might have to submit some personal data.

Ultimately, I think a good quote from Electrum's downloads page is needed here;
Quote from: electrum.org
Finally, if you are really concerned about malware, you should not use an operating system that relies on anti-virus software.
4514  Other / Meta / Re: BADecker can do this ... on: May 29, 2022, 01:47:00 PM
What's up with BADecker and why is he here anyway? 96.2% of his posts belong to P&S and Off-Topic. I don't blame him for not talking about bitcoin often; it's obvious that he doesn't know what is he talking about. Also, does anybody know why he ends each post with a "Cool" smiley?

Far better users have been banned for far less. But BADecker continues to be unmoderated, for reasons unknown.
Probably because there's no moderation in neither of the sub-forums he frequents.
4515  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: should I be concerned about the history of bitcoins when buying them ? on: May 29, 2022, 01:25:13 PM
cant I just use Samourai's mixing functions ?
Samourai doesn't have a good reputation when it comes to privacy. I wouldn't choose it; if you want to give it a try, do it with a Dojo installed. Otherwise, you'll have to hand out your master public key, which nullifies your mixing. Definitely don't go with Wasabi, as they're now censoring certain UTXOs.

To avoid installing wallet software etc., just use a mixer.
4516  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: should I be concerned about the history of bitcoins when buying them ? on: May 29, 2022, 11:31:17 AM
If I purchase bitcoins via p2p, can I get some problems if the bitcoins I get were involved in some criminal activity ?
As long as you avoid centralized exchanges, which treat bitcoin as non-fungible and demand blackmail you to give them your personal info to proceed, it's extremely unlikely you will ever get yourself into trouble. No peer looks for your bitcoin's history.

If yes then how do I avoid such situation ?
If you don't feel confident with having your peer's history, mix them. And I recommend you to do this more regularly, such as for the money you'll send to your peer; to make yourself untraceable. Mix, for the sake of your privacy.

Here's a list of reputable mixers: 2022 List Bitcoin Mixers Bitcoin Tumblers Websites.
4517  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Building An Escrow Wallet On Bitcoin Core on: May 29, 2022, 08:42:40 AM
If the transaction goes smoothly, both parties sign the release transaction, and if there is a dispute, the escrow agent can mediate the dispute according to the TOS of his services and sign a transaction accordingly.
And with single-sig, such dispute can't happen, because Alice doesn't have custody (or part of it) to cheat. He's handed out to the escrow agent.

A 2-of-3 multi-sig escrow agent would not be able to arbitrarily run away with his customer's money, although he would be able to collude with one of the parties involved to steal the money in the escrow address. This setup may work when there is modest amounts of trust among all of those involved.
It mitigates trust, but it doesn't eliminates it, or at least, it doesn't discourage enough. The agent can still blackmail or collude with one of the other parties, as you said, to steal the money and split it half etc. And that's just for Alice's money. Charlie can't divide the possession of his product in a multi-sig.

I find it a little contradictory. Don't you use an escrow because you trust the agent?
4518  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Building An Escrow Wallet On Bitcoin Core on: May 29, 2022, 08:28:28 AM
If it's an escrow, then you get custody of the money. That's the point of escrow. Alice doesn't trust Charlie, but she trusts Bob, and so does Charlie. Alice gives Bob the money, Charlie gives the product to Bob. Bob confirms the trade and does the switch.

This is how it works in theory. Multi-sig makes no sense unless Alice and Charlie use security deposit, which overrides the purpose of the middleman.
4519  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Help a newbie; why is hashing not done once but twice during Bitcoin transaction on: May 29, 2022, 06:01:00 AM
but that's still no reason to be calling it a "shitcoin". reserve that for something that isn't innovative and just copies other peoples code.
Let's see.

  • "Solana is a fast, secure and censorship resistant blockchain", reminds me of something.  Roll Eyes
  • It isn't innovative. It uses another alibi, which is this meaningless Proof-of-History that is been discussed pages now, to bring more users to the crypto-space. In fact, PoH is their main aspect.
  • It has 400 millisecond block times and claims to be able to process up to 710,000 transactions per second. We've seen this in the past; it's neither innovative nor sustainable for decentralization.
  • It hypes up NFTs, which also reminds me of someone else' work.
  • There has been a network outage which I find justified, since they'd spent most of their time designing the website and improving their social media accounts' growth.
  • Solana doesn't have a hard cap. Instead, its supply increases based on this staking yield nonsense.
  • There's a "Solana Foundation".

It's the definition of shitcoin.
4520  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: electrum wallet got hacked on: May 28, 2022, 03:47:14 PM
will there be a problem if i start using it again?
Again, your machine is likely infected. If you don't format or move to another machine, any coins you deposit are going to be stolen sooner or later. Do format it. Not only for your coins' safety; this can likely gain access to your personal info and even blackmail you.

also when i use older electrum version it open without needing kleopatra to be open, but 4.4.2 version needs that other app so it will work, it's confusing/
You don't need to have Kleopatra opened to run Electrum.



Verifying signature is such a hustle, especially if you don't know why you're doing it. The tutorial requires some modification, I've said this before.
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