Well I have been strongly pushing for users like yobit and secondstrade to be banned for a while and I still think problem campaigns should be treated the same as problem spammers ie couple of temp bans then permabanned. However, I left negative feedback for yobit and he now seems eager to hire someone to run the campaign for him and I've made some suggestions. I've also told secondstrade they will be recieving the same treatment if they don't improve but he tells me the user mark coins is going to be helping him out with that but he's on yobit and his posts don't look great either.


He told me they have over 200 users and they're paying out over 0.1 a day so at around 3btc a month they could run a pretty decent fixed rate campaign which I have suggested they do. Eitherway if somone respectable is looking after their campaign it will quickly be cleaned up.

It instantly removes all their posts and bans them (and their ip I believe).

He is nuked. He has no posts and no activity now.

It's not gay if you beat them up afterwards.

Who is going to be looking after the campaign for you?


I think many already do. Definitely gives a poor/bad representation of their company.

Typical yobit spammer/scammer. What do you expect when nobody is checking their posts.

If you can't manage the campaign then find someone who can. You also don't need to accept every shitposter that applies. Go through your spreadsheet and boot off everyone who is making shit posts or spamming up games and rounds. If you don't have time to do this then contact someone who will. I would recommend guitarplinker as he had run successful campaigns in the past and will do the job properly. If I do not notice a drastic improvement in the quality of posts coming from this campaign I will be leaving you negative feedback like I did with yobit because it's unacceptable to continue paying people to crap all over the forum. Negative feedback should be the least of your worries though because I'm strongly pushing the admins to just ban users like you who are unwilling to run their campaigns properly.

Not on this campaign. If you want a higher for better posts rate try find another campaign.

No.

It's a week after you signed up.

No, the number/accuracy of the posts you have reported.

Why do we need a specific scammer tag when the trade with extreme caution is usually enough and works pretty good at the moment?


Staff are selected by how good their reporting is, doesn't mean to say we can be totally trusted. People should do their due diligence with any user here regardless of rank. A staff member might not rip you off for a bitcoin or two but might for 100. Some staff may be open to bribes for certain things as well.

It would be too much work for staff and mods generally don't get involved with scam accusations and is why it was removed. And what makes you think staff couldn't be manipulated the same way? It would be just too much fuss and people would be pestering mods to tag the hundreds of accounts that try scam here. 

Potential activity accounts do go for much less because you often need to make a lot of posts to collect the full activity. For instance you could have an account with 60 posts/activity but a potential activity of 240 so you would need to get your post count up to 240 to get all the banked activity which can be a bit of an effort.


This is probably the most accurate estimation:


If you want an account just check in Digital Goods or make a thread there wanting to buy one and see what offers you get.

They should peg the values to fiat if they're worried about fluctuations otherwise they're just going to be going backwards and forwards. Most won't raise the rates if the rice plummets to a new low either so it'd be good to know what you're actually getting

The periods are fixed and do not start when you sign up. The new activity period was today so if you signed up yesterday and made a post then posted again today you would have 28 potential activity.

Local mods can be consulted in that case and I sometimes send lists to them to check for clarification if I'm unsure, though if they're all short sentences it's not difficult to see something is up.

I would disagree about punishments not working if they're dished out consistently (though forcing/putting pressure on campaigns to not pay for these posts in the first place would help the most). Punishments do usually work and I think most will change their ways after a ban but you can't just issue one set of bans then nothing for months again (I think the last time BadBear started to crack down on spammers with mass bans was before I was even a mod and that was a while ago). When the last wave of mass bannings went out I did notice a decrease in spam, but over time it slowly increased back to normal and now it's the worse it has ever been. If people are made aware or fear that they're no longer going to be able to get away with shitposting then 9/10 they will either improve or stop it as it's just not worth it for them. We also didn't have campaigns like yobit and secondstrade back then and I don't think any campaigns were using bots to count/pay out either. I think cracking down with lots of bans for the worst types of users will hopefully send a message out but if nothing does improve then I will hold my hands up and admit it failed, but it's something we should at least try and we've got nothing to lose really. I still think pressure needs to be put on the problem campaigns and bans should be issued to them too. If they don't respond to them then some way to block their signatures entirely or manually remove them from users would put a stop to that. It's a shame that a couple of campaigns aren't doing their job because I've always said campaigns could actually improve the quality of posts here but only if signature managers do what they're supposed to and not allow poor posters on to their campaign in the first place and certainly don't pay them if they start crapping all over the place. If every campaign did this then spammers would have no where to go and unless they get up their post quality considerably their accounts would essentially be worthless.


To continue your cookie analogy, if you have some guards looking out for people stealing from the cookie jar and quickly dishing out appropriate punishments for those that get caught doing so most people wont be stupid enough to continue and will usually stop, though of course there will always be a few sneaky users who disregard the fear of punishment and try anything they can to get around the cookie-police and continue their thievery/behavior. Those who do repeatedly try steal though will get a greater punishment ie permaban so it's probably not worth losing your account over a few satoshis.


Spam is still spam in my eyes regardless of where it is. Just because off-topic might be seen as a toilet to you doesn't mean people should be allowed a free pass to piss all over the seat and floor and smear shit all over the cubicle walls. People also don't need to make sloppy, one word answers in there. I have made several posts - and used to post almost daily - in the what song are you listening to thread but I never just posted the artist/song name. I linked to a youtube video and wrote a sentence or two on why I liked it or what bands they sound similar to if someone else wanted to check it out. People just get lazy and it gets worse when they realise they can get away with it whilst getting paid and that's why they need a slap on the wrist.


Sometimes we do remove their posts (though it is time consuming to remove them one-by-one unless we nuke them) and I have removed a few of his but at the same time if I delete all his crappy ones and leave the good ones it could look like he's a good poster and nothing's wrong when we request a ban. He's banned anyway now so it's moot.

  Update what information? Everyone gets paid the same regardless of rank. The only thing you need to do is update your signature but I don't even think that is required.