Yes, and then you still have to see it in its time perspective... (or do you compare specs on a 1968 Stingray to a 2013 McLaren?)

I think he is claiming "Artistic License" on his mathematical comparison scenarios.

So? You're still comparing apples and oranges here Chucky... (Although prob. my Antminers use "a bit more" power [not to mention: produce a lot more heat] since I run them at 400mhz, and the Single's aren't so easily overclockable...).

Ehhhhh... As I said: you do have to compare the Single to the other Hardware being used back then (in 2013)...

Someone has to go back to school an learn basic reading (and interpreting) skills.

Well, that's not my experience...

I waited to order the BFL Single's till they were "in stock" and I must say that the chips are superior to any other I use(-d, and I [have] use [-d] Antminer U1's, Technobit HEX16's, BFL Single's and Antminer S1's). They simply hash away more steady (less fluctuations in Hashrate), more power effective (although I really don't care because of my "all-in-office-rent") and more efficiently (less power hungry and less heat dissipation).

So - yes, I am looking forward to what chip BFL comes up with... And test results are proving to be quite interesting:

There is no real best mining pool.  Every miner will say the mining pool they been mining to forever is the best and they're probably the best for them.  You have to draw a mining plan, like you would in a gold mine.

• Do you want to be able to cash-out daily?
• Do you want to mine x amount of blocks per day?
• Do you rather make more bank for your power?
• Do you want merged mining?
• How much time do I spend at the PC?

Those are all things like that to consider and then some, those are just a few points to consider.  From my short experience, large pools appeal to new miners because they pay often and regularly find blocks.  They are also a lot more stable and easier to deal with in general, they're established for years.  Most miners found out for themselves.  Smaller pools may take a few days to find one block but the chance to get a nice share of the pot increases too.  At some point, if you go to a small pool, you get a no-profitability factor.   Meaning, no matter what you make from a certain point, you're giving free hashing power without pay.  It's up to you to know what you can expect to earn from each pool you congregate.

If you start then BTC Guild is probably your best bet to get used to the whole thing.  It is the most stable and quickest to pay too.  You can cash out daily but don't pay as much as a small pool like P2Pool or BitMinter.  P2Pool I find is too small and BitMinter never takes my whole hashing power; I think their server needs upgraded hardware.  I'd avoid score based pools like TripleMining and Slush's Pool, I never got a decent ROI when compared to other pools.  You might, didn't work out for me.  In the end, best research is your own.

Hope this helps.

Single uses about 4 watts per gh at the wall. 3 if you undervolt it with some resistor mods.

The jalapeno used more like 5 watts per gh, six if it was the 2 chip model. This is more due to the hotel load (things like the CPU, power control, USB, etc) using power. My 32gh jally is 5w/gh because the power supply is less efficient than a single and I have to run a Corsair H100 water block system to cool the little guy.

Power matters a *LOT*. I'll probably be throttling down my systems in June.

C
(Why yes, I hack hardware for bitcoin. Tell the Defcon people to accept my presentation and I'll do one at Blackhat/Defcon in August. We might even set things on fire)

No, it isn't...

And you do have to compare it with the other hardware being used back then... (in good-ol 2013).

Well, from my perspective you're the one using marketing...

You take the power usage (at the wall) and divide it though the number of GH's mining so you get a ratio and the Single performs best (from the four miners I('ve been) use(-ing).

Simple really...

Wait,

this is said by someone with "★★★ GET FREE CREDITS! ♣ POKER ✪ SLOTS ♦ BLACKJACK ☮ RITZGRANDCASINO.COM ★★★" for a signature?!?

ROFL!

Even with no electricity fees, you still have to buy the hardware, buy cooling equipments and time taken to manage it. It would be highly unlikely to ROI.

So - yes, I am looking forward to what chip BFL comes up with... And test results are proving to be quite interesting:

I don't think right now UpDown is going to do any competition because they are paying just 1 btc or some more in a week pay and Ritz paying more then 12 btc and Stunna 16 btc so all need to take time for any next decision

I Would Go Ahead And Kill My Wife 

Are there any plan to make the S2 be able to ROI, at the current price it hashes at $2.3 per GH/s vs the S1 at $1.3.
The S2 should cost a little more due to the case and the power supply, but at the current price it is almost double the price and does not ROI.
I think a fair price would be at around $1.5 per GH/s this way it is possible to ROI at current difficulty rate.

Using any calculator that considers the difficulty increase, and using a difficulty increase of 18%  indicates the S2 does not ROI at current prices.

As of now the S1 is the only miner that can ROI, but the problem is that due to the extra energy it uses it will soon be obsolete and for the S2 to take its place the S2 must be able to ROI.

Cointerra $1.9 per GH/s better than S2 but not good enough, sp10 $2 per GH/s better than s2 but not good enough for ROI to occur but lower energy consumption.

Conclusion the S1 is the best value per GH/s but very soon the extra energy it uses will kill the ROI.




 

already see i can not ask nothing
bahh

No he did not. We will soon see huge exodus of people to Up/down if he did not change it. All People's contracts are ending with the end of the month.

Yeah, these thread is full of dicks. It is stupid, how can you justify being upset and posting to a company well all they have done is take your money then delay a little, lie, delay more, ignore you, say you can't have refunds, delay more, ignore lots more, compensate by making you buy psu's, then say well be can't figure it out you can have minions though, be rude at suggestions and not post pictures of "just waiting for case" x-1's. Talk about over dramatic.