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4521  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Paradox - a Simple Online Scam Honored as Deity on: May 16, 2022, 10:06:28 AM
Point of your statement is therefore what?
That debt is created using no resources; banknotes have no intrinsic value, they're exactly like bitcoin. They're created out of thin air, they can't be used for anything beyond transactions. It's just that their usage is being forced.

You say that debt is evidenced with deposits of those banknotes, I tell you that you can also create debt with bitcoin, if that's your only problem. We have a whole Lending sub-board. There are people who borrow coins with collateral, check it out.
4522  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Blockchain in the Cloud on: May 16, 2022, 07:30:56 AM
As it was occasioned by Kakmakr, it's advisable to mention that democracy, which is the form of governance they describe, isn't the same as with consensus. In elections, you get to either vote for a party specifically, vote what the majority prefers, or simply leave the country. But, consensus is rather a decision you take free-willingly.

Nor the number of nodes neither the number of people who're running nodes matter. All it matters is what you do. If you want to make transactions reversible, change the block subsidy, the difficulty etc., there's nothing stopping you. But, you don't change bitcoin that way. And this applies to everyone, regardless of the percentage, regardless of their economic strength, regardless of their influence. The moment the majority changes a principle, that very moment, they stop being the majority.

In democracy, the BCH users would have to switch back to BTC, because as it seemed, the majority didn't want it. But, in consensus, they can have it; they can switch to BCH V2, BSV etc., if they like. They don't have to care what the others say.
4523  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: wallet.dat corrupt salvage failed on: May 15, 2022, 05:54:41 PM
Try running daemon/bitcoin-wallet with the salvage command.
Code:
bitcoin-wallet -wallet=<wallet-name> salvage

It tries to recover the keys from the broken wallet's database. Alternatively, try pywallet:
Code:
python pywallet.py --dumpwallet --wallet=wallet.dat > wallet.txt
4524  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Problem with wallet on startup on: May 15, 2022, 12:35:15 PM
1. Which Electrum server implementation do you use?
Electrs 0.8.11.

2. Do you know whether version of server you use support Electrum protocol 1.4? Electrum 4.2.1 seek server which support protocol version 1.4[1].
Electrs does support version 1.4, and it seems they have been supporting it since 0.4.3.

3. Have you checked log on your Electrum server when the problem occurred?
No, because I don't save any logs!

I should conclude that this is an edge case of 4.2.1 specifically, unless you were using Electrum connected to a specific server. Try filing a bug report on their Issues page on Github.
Electrs could also be the fault here; I've been using a relatively old version. I also didn't try it in any other server, because of my privacy.

All's well that ends well. I don't find any reason to switch to 4.2.1.
4525  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Empty blocks on: May 15, 2022, 11:33:12 AM
The timestamp of the block you have linked to is also quite interesting, since it is earlier than not just the next block, but also the block after that.
Although unlikely, it could be faked, for some reason. I can't be sure it's 3 minutes unless I had some sort of node plugin installed that timestamps the block the moment it receives it. Anyway, it was probably an accident that occurred in the meantime.
4526  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Empty blocks on: May 15, 2022, 10:55:14 AM
There really isn't any incentive to include transactions in blocks.
That sounds incorrect, pal.  Tongue

It's a modest amount of processing power required to test, pick and commit transactions to block (nearly a quarter of the bitcoin codebase is dedicated to this).
Creating merkle trees does require a little bit more of the processing power, but there's no way this will disincentivize the miners if they're going to get an extra fraction of a bitcoin, just because the block subsidy is greater than that.

You could argue that the fees are the incentive to include them in a block, but when you are talking 6.25BTC ($184,000 USD) as the base - some aren't bothered by this.
In the last 10 blocks, the average income from fees, alone, is 0.107 BTC. That's 1.712% of the block reward. I would bother to earn it, even with higher chance to be beaten by propagation, even if I had to compute merkle trees.

Another possibility is the stratum/pool mining software responsible for this block is not connected to a full node, rather a lite or SPV node. To build a valid block, you really only need to know the previous block hash, the height and the coinbase reward. Running a bitcoin node again, is quite resource intensive - and the disk space alone is 405Gb (standard, not txindex) - I can fully see a situation where some clever software simply listening to the headers could work.
But, running a full node is a necessity if you want to be accurate and sure. Listening to an SPV node increases your chances to be beaten in propagation as you receive the info later than the others. (And you're trusting an entity that can set you up)
4527  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: 2^96 same bitcoin address on: May 15, 2022, 09:00:33 AM
For SegWit, where more sha256 are used, distribution of collision could be completely different.
Why are they more? The steps are the same until RIPEMD-160, then it starts having a different path where there are different representations involved. Also, why would the distribution of collision be different? It doesn't matter if it uses SHA256(x) or SHA256(SHA256(x)), the odds remain the same, while the cost of address generation increases.
4528  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Empty blocks on: May 15, 2022, 08:48:27 AM
I suspect it's due to an accident. There might was something wrong with the mempool of the pool's node at that moment and during the in-between period they were trying to find out what's wrong, one of their miners solved the block.

There's no reason to dump so much money otherwise.
4529  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Help; Would Merkel tree solves problem of Collision encountered with SHA256 on: May 14, 2022, 05:28:14 PM
1. Would Merkle tree solves the problem of Collision sometimes encountered with SHA256?
What do you mean? There's never been a collision with SHA-256.

2. How secure is this more than the normal linear hash and what's the difference?
How secure is what? The hash function? The process where we construct hash trees has to do with the efficiency of verification.
4530  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Another signal why to avoid CEX.... on: May 14, 2022, 04:58:54 PM
Trading. There is no arguing that once you are set up on an exchange,* trading is far more convenient with a centralized exchange over a true DEX.
Trading, gambling, what's the difference. Both function unpredictably, both lead to more losses, both have mathematical strategies that make no sense, such as TA, both have gurus, both have to do with money.

And to be honest, I'd rather playing in a provably fair casino, gambling officially, knowing how I can win, what's the chances to lose, than to bet in a shitcoin with a sextillion units, a doggy thumbnail, a Twitter community/mob which always tweets with the hashtag, a non-existent wallet, brown-nosing billionaires to use it so I can dump it. That's pyramid.
4531  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Another signal why to avoid CEX.... on: May 14, 2022, 03:46:24 PM
I know we have DEX options but they still can't compete.
Why not? Are they secure? Yes. Are they private? Yes. Are they transparent? Yes. Are they cheaper? Yes. Are they mine? Yes. There's no competition between a DEX and a CEX; the former is much superior. Especially if you want to use/hold coins. The only thing you don't get is gambling, such as marginal trading and trading shitcoins every minute.

I mean, that's pretty much the risk in exchange for the convenience of having the funds on a centralized exchange.
What convenience? Pretty much the opposite, I'd say. If I knew that my money could be seized, get frozen, hacked etc., I'd be less convenient.
4532  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The 10,000-Hour Rule in Bitcoin? on: May 14, 2022, 03:17:40 PM
If I spend 10,000 hours on Bitcoin, I wouldn’t become like Satoshi.
Except that you would, if you really wanted to. With 10,000 dozens of thousands of hours, if you decided to figure out what's going on behind all that, you would. You would have the time to understand bitcoin, you'd have the time to study how cryptography works, you'd have the time to comprehend economic terms you were unaware of, you'd have the time to ask questions, things you don't understand etc.

This is what I did. I had the time. I had the passion. I had the willingness. My point is: The world is made by people who're not smarter than you are. You just need to put in the effort.
4533  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Coinbase blackout on: May 14, 2022, 03:00:21 PM
Are we really immediately anticipating a bankruptcy just because they currently have a problem with their platform(every platform gets problems) and after a single bad quarter?
According to their terms and conditions, they're already prepared for this bankruptcy scenario, which should have made the users who hold money there a little cautious. They have 100% control over their users. If they predict their business won't be profitable in the upcoming months, they can pretend to have got hacked.

But, who am I kidding, with this private data they're constantly selling to governments, chain analyzers and advertisers, they can maintain themselves without any additional fees.

But as explained by @Mk4 coibase is a multi billion dollar company and they monopolize the US market. I done think so that they will pull out a shady behaviour like we are assuming right now.
Binance owns more than they do.
4534  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: API for acquiring and converting to BTC? on: May 14, 2022, 02:00:31 PM
There are certainly experienced Bitcoiners who use centralized exchanges, but I'd like to believe they do this with the awareness of the risks they take while doing it and the costs it will entail in terms of monetary and privacy implications.
One more thing to say is that one can use a centralized exchange, because he's fully unaware that a decentralized exchange is a thing. He may feel he has to hand out all this info, because otherwise he has no easy way to acquire bitcoin. It's the same reason one will feel forced to integrate with PayPal to process payments, because he has no idea that electronic cash exists.

In that case, the merchant wouldn't say "I won't accept payments, because of privacy invasion", but "Unfortunately, I'll have to give up my privacy and my custody, because my business cannot operate otherwise".
4535  Economy / Services / Re: [FULL] ChipMixer Signature Campaign | Sr Member+ on: May 14, 2022, 09:48:46 AM
@DarkStar_, shouldn't you update the signature codes in the OP? Both contain the obsolete, v2 onion link. And I just noticed n0nce, hosseinimr93 and Rikafip wear it.
4536  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Electrum LTC Verification on: May 14, 2022, 06:31:56 AM
I've verified this in the past. Just download the binaries from electrum-ltc.org and verify either Thrasher's or Pooler's signature. If you have a version prior 3.3.3, as it sounds you do, update as soon as possible.

Quote
IMPORTANT NOTICE (February 2019)

Versions of Electrum and Electrum-LTC older than 3.3.3 are vulnerable to a phishing attack, where malicious servers are able to display a message asking users to download a fake version of Electrum. To prevent user exposure, versions older than 3.3 can no longer connect to public servers, and must be upgraded. Do not download software updates from sources other than electrum.org and electrum-ltc.org.
4537  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Paradox - a Simple Online Scam Honored as Deity on: May 13, 2022, 07:45:58 PM
You are once again making the categorial mistake of classifying Bitcoin as merely a security instead of a currency proper.
He's making lots of mistakes and fallacies. Emphasis mine.

Where're 5 things that the person bought after number 5 was attached to their address? What is that mega expensive product that the person paid $40.000 a piece? All you do is repeating "Bitcoin is this", Bitcoin is that" like a broken record, without proving anything.
People in bitcoin community blindly believe Satoshi like he is some kind of God. He wrote in his paper that his system creates coins and the community accepted that without a question. But all that his system does is attaching numbers to addresses.
You're again talking nonsense. People don't agree that the ladger is satisfactory, whatever that means, but to have numbers stored to their address. And they do that because they falsely believe these numbers quantify a digital asset called bitcoin. They believe so, because thay accepted Satoshi's paper at face value. Or because they fall for false narrative and misleading information spread throughout social media.

And further BS from his alt:
Bitcoin has zero cost in creation. It's created by a mere program function.
Given that bitcoin is not a security one can utilize it via its intrinsic value, like all non securities, that is, economic goods, are utilized. The intrinsic value of bitcoin is watching number on a screen. The bitcoin system exists only to provide the holders with this "watching" and to transfer it between people. First the miners invest electricity to make the system running, and the system rewards them by giving them the ability to watch a number on the screen. Then, they sell this "watching" to someone else. Currently, people ask $37,000 for it. I am simply asking why would I pay so much money for something like that?



Fiat money is a resource that benefits people at debt repayments, as explained in the OP.
But, fiat money is no resource by default. It begins to have value once it's loaned. Once it's borrowed. Once it's used. Once it's demanded. Once it's supplied. Fiat, alone, does not create debt, which is the resource.
4538  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Απορία για φορολογία on: May 13, 2022, 03:41:29 PM
Ξυπνάω αυτό το thread πάλι. Ακόμα κι αν η Ελλάδα είναι φιλική με κρυπτο-φορολογία, σας έχει χτυπήσει ποτέ καμπανάκι αφού κάνατε μεγάλη αγορά; Θέλω να μάθω αν ασχολούνται απ'την κυβέρνηση. Στην Αμερική για παράδειγμα μέχρι και ξεχωριστό FAQ έχουν φτιάξει και είμαι σίγουρος πως κάνουν την αλυσίδα φύλλο και φτερό. Δε φοροδιαφεύγεις δηλαδή αν έχεις συμπληρώσει KYC.

Δεν φορολογούνται τα unrealized gains και εκτός αυτού δεν υπάρχει πεδίο για κρυπτονομίσματα στην φορολογική δήλωση (το τονίζω: κρυπτονομίσματα, ΟΧΙ μετοχές που φορολογούνται με 15%).
Που το λέει αυτό;
4539  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: API for acquiring and converting to BTC? on: May 13, 2022, 03:07:35 PM
I feel like many newcomers don't understand the importance of privacy and all the issues with KYC; they're in the 'I have nothing to hide' mindset that everybody gets conditioned into from childhood.
I'll have to, silently, admit I had this mindset before I get into bitcoin. Fortunately, I never bothered to give KYC. It's not easy to understand what's going on if you're outside the rabbit hole the entire timeTongue

Presumably no fee too.
It doesn't have the same fees like Binance, wherein you're charged more than 20 times the fee you should have actually paid, but it does have fees. First and foremost, there are the trading fees; the taker and the maker pay combined 1% of the amount you trade.


Then there are the on-chain fees;
Bitcoin mining fees must be paid to do on-chain bitcoin transactions, and each Bisq trade currently requires 4 on-chain transactions: maker fee tx, taker fee tx, deposit tx, and payout tx.
4540  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Electrum Transaction Issue: Unconfirmed Parent; Insufficient fee problem on: May 13, 2022, 12:34:44 PM
How do I do a CPFP?
If you're on Electrum, right click on the unconfirmed transaction -> Child pays for parent -> Enter the fee you're willing to pay on "Fee for child:" and click "OK". You'll have to be a little bit more generous to encourage the miner include both.

That's the high fee currently:
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