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4521  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin: low transaction fees, I don't think so on: July 11, 2012, 03:42:54 PM

"I wonder how many would continue to worship at the shrine of Ayn Rand if they knew that towards the end of her life she signed on for both Medicare and social security."

Which surely tells us something about her philosophy and not just her since such hypocrisy seems not uncommon among Randians.  

How do you explain how so many who follow Any Rand also call themselves Christians? How does one reconcile Atlas Shrugged with the Sermon on the Mount for example?

And Karl Marx most likely bought a sandwich and earned money by producing a good or service. Was he a hypocrite?

Or did he pay more for goods if the person's need was greater?

So Ayn Rand using Medicare and social security is not a case of hypocrisy because... ? 
4522  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Free Bitcoins Listing on: July 11, 2012, 03:28:02 PM
mycryptcoin seems to be working again.
fiveminutecoin still down.
the paperco.in faucet is out of bitcoins; needs donations.
4523  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Where do I get free Bitcoins? on: July 11, 2012, 03:26:07 PM
mycryptcoin seems to be working again.
fiveminutecoin still down.
the paperco.in faucet is out of bitcoins; needs donations.  
4524  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: is the "internet industry" opposed to bitcoin? on: July 10, 2012, 08:14:11 PM
My corollary to RM's insight: If the second fear wins out, cognitive dissonance makes it important to convince ourselves that we've made the right decision. That cognitive dissonance can make us react in what seems like a weirdly-cult like manner to anti-Bitcoin arguments. Tongue

Conclusion: don't buy into Bitcoins because you're scared that you might miss out. Do it because the idea is revolutionary!

+1

Did people need to mount campaigns to convince others to use email...
did they need to attack the postal system as evil and everything else that is bad...
in order for it to catch on and be successful?

Sure Bitcoin is about money and that changes things somewhat...
but Bitcoin isn't really about becoming rich.   
4525  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: is the "internet industry" opposed to bitcoin? on: July 10, 2012, 05:15:15 PM
A lot of people in IT opposed the Internet in 1993. Took 6 years. In 1999 they said it all along how great the Internet is.

Opposed?

Remember: people used to fear the email.

Fear? 

It seems to me more the case that most people didn't know about it, or pay much
attention to these things, or if they did, didn't think it would go anywhere. I think
to say it caused fear or opposition is overstating things, which doesn't help arguments
that intend to encourage Bitcoin adoption.   

And I see a lot of people saying things in some of these threads which seem to suggest
that the internet was created in the early 90s.  Lol   Do you mean rather the World Wide Web?   
The internet has been around since the 50s, even though the term "the internet" wasn't really
coined until the 80s.   

I was using the internet before the 90s... heck, I was playing with computer programming
as early as the mid 70s. 

My point is all one needs is some patience. And I mean years and not weeks or months.
We don't need to try and force people to see how wonderful Bitcoin is.  If it is useful, and
I feel it is, people will just start to use it without much coercion.    Wink

4526  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why bitcoin is in big trouble and is ultimately doomed! on: July 10, 2012, 04:21:42 PM
I am not using reverse psychology to try and increase the price.

That's just what someone using reverse psychology 'would' say.   Wink

In any case if your trolling has anything to do with it, thanks just the same.   Grin
4527  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why bitcoin is in big trouble and is ultimately doomed! on: July 10, 2012, 04:17:01 PM
That question is irrelevant...

What question is irrelevant? 

Can you not read? I said if your post is not useful (ie, off topic) then do not post here!

Who are you talking to? 

Could you please quote what you are replying to? 

You make a lot of sense and are starting to win me over, and I want to make sure
I follow your flow of logic⸮

did I use it right Hexadecimal?




4528  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why bitcoin is in big trouble and is ultimately doomed! on: July 09, 2012, 09:47:20 PM
Hmm, perhaps a few possibilities:

1. OP is high
2. OP is hacked, and hacker is posting on a different login session (unlikely)
3. OP is retarded, stupid, an idiot, or some combination of those
4. OP is pushing some kind of agenda (whose?)
5. OP is a scammer trying to raise his post count in order to become more legitimate to new users (also likely) before selling them stuff and running.
  5a. See how he never quotes anyone, so as to leave incriminating or opposing views out of his post history?
6. OP needs to get a life and come back in a few years

7. OP is using reverse psychology and is actually trying to pump up the price of BTC. 

it just hit $7

 Wink
4529  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: cavirtex.com - Canadian Bitcoin Exchange now LIVE on: July 08, 2012, 07:56:51 PM
I just noticed in CA VIrtex's terms of service the restriction:

 "Your use of the VirtEx site shall serve to confirm that you are both 18 years of age or older and a Canadian citizen.".

 - https://www.cavirtex.com/terms

Is that something that is actually verified?  e..g, if a person deposits bitcoins and withdraws Payza (formerly AlertPay), would CA VirtEx ever know if the person is not Canadian?

Not sure but these steps, among others, are required in order to "verify ones account"*:

  • Scan or take a digital photo of your government issued photo ID showing your current address, full name, and signature (eg. drivers license). Passports are no longer accepted. All borders must be visible and the document must be in colour.
  • Scan or take a digital photo of a recent (within 3 months) utility or other personal bill which shows your name and address...



*"users can raise their deposit and withdrawal limits by verifying their bank account."

4530  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANNOUNCE] skude.se/BTC - an easier way to request your daily free coins on: July 08, 2012, 01:02:30 AM
wasn't the FBI supposed to be shutting down a DNS redirector they had set up a while ago, because of a widespread malware infection, changing people's DNS settings to the infector's DNS servers?

I could swear it was supposed to be turned off today...

Monday. 
4531  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: **ATTENTION: Why is harassment, abusive behavior and stalking allowed here? on: July 07, 2012, 07:52:49 PM
Just ignore paraipan. He doesn't have the power or influence to do anything to you.  
Letting him get to you will just do his work for him... making you get yourself
into trouble.  
4532  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: London, Paris, Rome on: July 07, 2012, 05:53:56 PM
E.L.O would have had you going to Hamburg before Paris.  

And M would suggest a slightly different itinerary...

New York, London, Paris, Munich
Everybody talk about pop muzik Bitcoin
4533  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sorry, I've been out of it for a while, but when did this whole thing start? on: July 07, 2012, 05:23:36 PM
just installed SwiftKey and now i have the brackets!

edit:  so whats the green G supposed to represent; gold?

        or the "D"?

glow
4534  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Free Bitcoins Listing on: July 07, 2012, 04:56:40 PM
mycryptcoin.com is down again...
4535  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [Project Development] CoinWorker.com - earn bitcoin in your browser in minutes on: July 06, 2012, 11:20:25 PM
How much is one point on Coinworker nowadays?

I remember there were tasks at 10-20 points per task and that was close to nothing.

Now, I can only see 1 point tasks in the list, did you change the value of the point, because otherwise it's like ... zero payment.

They not only give out less points per task now but the points are worth less as well.

It used to be 200 points ( which one needs to collect before they payout ) used to
equal about 0.4 BTC, now it is more like 200 points = 0.3 BTC. 

4536  Other / Meta / Re: A mod here believes I should be scammer tagged and keeps stalking/harassing me on: July 06, 2012, 08:50:09 PM
Why on earth is paraipan even a mod?

Based on some of what I have witnessed ( though I am not familiar with your situation ) I would say that is a good question.
4537  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 6.66 Mark of the Beast!! ZOMG!!! on: July 06, 2012, 05:16:35 PM
Why is 6.66 so popular? I've seen it several times today at arbitrary and random times.
Am I just seeing it because it stands out or is and indication of an imminent apocalypse?
I can't decide.

This same phenomenon happened to me in 2008 right before 2009.. It continually showed up. I was not familiar with the Bible yet but I kept seeing that number every where and remember asking myself the same question. Although I leaned on the conclusion that it was simply standing out, after seeing it again and again in less likely circumstances, I began to re-question and have now concluded it to be more than coincidence.



I had the same thing happen to me with 69 once.

69 is a multiple of 23!   Shocked

http://www.dedroidify.com/23.htm*
http://www.gaiamind.com/about23.html
( google for much more )


(  69 is also quite fun with the right girl   Wink  )


* excerpt from the 'Illuminatus! Trilogy - Eye in the Pyramid' by Robert Shea & Robert Anton Wilson:

...He was launching into a peroration about the mystic significance of the number 23— pointing out that 2 plus 3 equals 5, the pentad within which the Devil can be invoked "as for example in a pentacle or at the Pentagon building in Washington," while 2 divided by 3 equals 0.666, "the Number of The Beast, according to that freaked-out Revelation of Saint John the Mushroom-head," that 23 itself was present esoterically "because of its conspicuous exoteric absence" in the number series represented by the Wobbly Hall address, which was 2422 North Halsted—and that the dates of the assassinations of John F. Kennedy and Lee Harvey Oswald, November 22 and 24, also had a conspicuous 23 absent in between them—when he finally was shouted down, the conversation returned to a more mundane level.

Half in whimsy and half in despair, Joe decided to perform one of his chronic acts of faith and convince himself, at least for a while, that there was some kind of

meaning in Simon's ramblings. His equally chronic skepticism, he knew, would soon enough reassert itself.

"What the world calls sanity has led us to the present planetary crises," Simon had said, "and insanity is the only viable alternative." That was a paradox worth some kind of consideration.

"About that 23," Joe said, approaching Simon tentatively after the meeting broke up.

"It's everywhere," was the instant reply. "I just started to scratch the surface. All the great anarchists died on the 23rd day of some month or other—Sacco and Vanzetti on August 23, Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow on May 23, Dutch on October 23—and Vince Coll was 23 years old when he was shot on 23rd Street—and even though John Dillinger died on the 22nd of July, if you look it up, like I did, in Toland's book, The Dillinger Days, you'll find he couldn't get away from the 23 Principle, because 23 other people died that night in Chicago, too, all from heat prostration. 'Nova heat moving in,' dig? And the world began on October 23, in 4004 B.C., according to Bishop Usher, and the Hungarian Revolution started on October 23, too, and Harpo Marx was born on November 23, and—"

There was more of it, much more, and Joe patiently listened to all of it, determined to continue his experiment in applied schizophrenia at least for this one evening. They retired to a nearby restaurant, the Seminary, on Fullerton Street, and Simon rambled on, over beers, proceeding to the mystic significance of the letter W—23rd in the alphabet—and its presence in the words "woman" and "womb" as well as in the shape of the feminine breasts and spread-eagled legs of the copulating female. He even found some mystic meaning in the W in Washington, but was strangely evasive about explicating this.

"So, you see," Simon was explaining when the restaurant was starting to close, "the whole key to liberation is magic. Anarchism remains tied to politics, and remains a form of death like all other politics, until it breaks free from the defined 'reality' of capitalist society and creates its own reality. A pig for President. Acid in the water supply. Fucking in the streets. Making the totally impossible become the eternally possible. Reality is thermoplastic, not thermosetting, you know: I mean you can reprogram it much more than people realize. The hex hoax—original sin, logical positivism, those restriction and constriction myths—all that's based on a thermosetting reality. Christ, man, there are limits, of course—nobody is nutty enough to deny that—but the limits are nowhere near as rigid as we've been taught to believe. It's much closer to the truth to say there are no practical limits at all and reality is whatever people decide to make it. But we've been on one restriction kick after another for a couple thousand years now, the world's longest head-trip, and it takes real negative entropy to shake up the foundations. This isn't shit; I've got a degree in mathematics, man."

"I studied engineering myself, a long time ago." Joe said. "I realize that part of what you say is true. . . ."

"It's all true. The land belongs to the landlords, right now, because of magic. People worship the deeds in the government offices, and they won't dare move onto a square of ground if one of the deeds says somebody else owns it. It's a head-trip, a kind of magic, and you need the opposite magic to lift the curse. You need shock elements to break up and disorganize the chains of command in the brain, the 'mind-forg'd manacles' that Blake wrote about. That's the unpredictable elements, dads: the erratic, the erotic, the Eristic. Tim Leary said it: 'People have to go out of their minds before they can come to their senses.' They can't feel and touch and smell the real earth, man, as long as the manacles in the cortex tell them it belongs to somebody else. If you don't want to call it magic, call it counter-conditioning, but the principle is the same. Breaking up the trip society laid on us and starting our own trip. Bringing back old realities that are supposed to be dead. Creating new realities. Astrology, demons, lifting poetry off of the written page into the acts of your daily life. Surrealism, dig? Antonin Artaud and Andre Breton put it in a nutshell in the First Surrealist Manifesto: 'total transformation of mind, and all that resembles it.' They knew all about the Illuminated Lodge, founded in Munich in 1923, and that it controlled Wall Street and Hitler and Stalin, through witchcraft. We gotta get into witchcraft ourselves to undo the hex they've cast on everybody's mind. All hail Discordia! Do you read me?"

When they finally parted, and Joe headed back for his hotel, the spell ended. I've been listening to a spaced-out acid-head all night, Joe thought in his cab headed south toward the Loop, and almost managing to believe him. If I keep on with this little experiment, I will believe him. And that's how insanity always begins: you find reality unbearable and start manufacturing a fantasy alternative. With an effort of will, he forced himself back into his usual framework; no matter how cruel reality was, Joe Malik would face it and would not follow the Yippies and Crazies in the joy ride to Cloud Cuckoo Land.

But when he arrived at his hotel door, and noticed for the first time that he had Room 23, he had to fight the impulse to call Simon on the phone and tell him about the latest invasion of surrealism into the real world.

And he lay awake in his bed for hours remembering 23s that had occurred in his own life . . . and wondering about the origin of that mysterious bit of 1929 slang, "23 Skidoo. ..."

Wink




The "23 Enigma" is the Discordian belief that all events are connected to the number 23, given enough ingenuity on the part of the interpreter.

4538  Other / Off-topic / Re: What do you think about the 2012 doomsday, I mean really.. it is different. on: July 06, 2012, 04:56:09 PM
Mayan prophecy: The world won’t end, as a newfound calendar goes on and on and on

"In a striking find, archaeologists in Guatemala report the discovery of a small building whose walls display not only a stunningly preserved mural of a brightly adorned Mayan king, but also calendars that destroy any notion that the Mayans predicted the end of the world in 2012.

These deep-time calendars can be used to count thousands of years into the past and future, countering pop-culture and New Age ideas that Mayan calendars ended on Dec. 21, 2012, (or Dec. 23, depending on who’s counting), thereby predicting the end of the world..."

---

The Mayan calendar is cyclical; there is no end date.
And as someone touched on, if the Mayans were so good at prophecy why couldn't they see the end of their own civilization?
4539  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Free Bitcoins Listing on: July 06, 2012, 04:45:07 PM
Hell if I'm installing the mtgox app on my smartphone for 0.0007 BTC

I don't even own a smartphone and I was able to get the code
to redeem at my MtGox account.   Cool   

Decoding QR codes online

4540  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 100% proof pirate runs a ponzi (thought experiment) on: July 05, 2012, 08:09:14 PM
Any suggestions how I can edit it to make it clearer?

As someone already told you, leave the quantum mechanics alone.

There is no certainty, or 100% proof, either way... that's why the term "uncertainty principle" is used
when talking about stuff happening at the quantum level...  and this issue is 'not' about stuff happening
at the quantum level.  

edit/ Things are uncertain in this case not because of the nature of the realm in which we are dealing...
but simply because of lack of data, at this particular moment. It is not out of the question that later
sufficient evidence may be found.   

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