The 999Dice scam hide the name of the operator, has no terms and conditions and no license = stay away! The Dice999 scam can take your bitcoins whenever they want. You are likely not able to initiate legal action, as there are likely no traces, because you do not know to who you have sent your coins! Further info: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=948965 |
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1) You're not even a real player; you were banned for TOC violations; you are just a disgruntled lying, shilling, troll. In what fantasy dream world do you live? Betcoin.ag has no Terms of Service! Probably not the same world that you guys get your information from that's for sure....here's a little something I brought you from my world however: https://sports.betcoin.ag/#/static/termsconditions"Betcoin Sports We are performing scheduled maintenance, the website will be available shortly" I have already evidence secured of the fraud. So even if they would now add juridical valid Terms of Service (what I highly doubt), it would remain that they already committed the criminal offense of fraud. As long as the participants of this scam stay anonym, they can of course state and do whatever they like and without any legal recourse. But just to clarify, the system works based on laws and rules and not based on "thinkings". |
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Ahh, sportsbet.io actually process withdrawals means nothing and when it will come to the point that they will not, then it is too late.  Even if they have terms and conditions, what prevent them from not running away with our coins? there is nothing that could protect us with this. Technically nothing prevent them from running away. But usually people do not commit criminal offenses because they could see prison time and or could be faced with litigation proceedings. This is at least how our system works. Imagine there would be no laws and everyone can just do what he like... I have seen alot of gambling sites went missing here and most would still have user's coin on their site so having terms and conditions isnt relevant at all If people do not want to claim and enforce their rights, yes then terms and conditions are not relevant. But if people want to claim and enforce their rights, then they are very important because they are the basis of a relationship between contract partners: If you send bitcoins to the domain sportsbet.io (LOL), what is it? Is it a donation, a business share or a loan to the domain sportsbet.io? If you know who the receiver of your bitcoins is, then you can of course initiate legal action against him if he embezzle your coins! But first it must be stated who the receiver and what your deposit is: If it is a donation, then of course he can not embezzle it. Embezzlement/theft is a criminal offense in almost every country in this world, so why would you be not able to sue him? Always when someone breached criminal laws, then you can sue him...  Lol it's so funny, just promoting himself. Even in most of his posts he is hyperlinking back to his site  such a dick. Everyone should just report his posts as advertising. EDIT: LMAO, checked now and even his Trust is in the negative  . Great start to your forum campaign mate, gl in the future. Is it not allowed to post links? If you would be able to read, then you would have realised that the negative trust from xetsr is a lie without any proof whatsoever, while Game Protect has already proven with facts that it can deliver the promised service! |
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1) You're not even a real player; you were banned for TOC violations; you are just a disgruntled lying, shilling, troll. In what fantasy dream world do you live? Betcoin.ag has no Terms of Service! |
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If online gaming consumer protection is important for you, then Game Protect could be your choice! Imagine you win a huge Jackpot and they do not give it to you, like it already happened several times. That would be really sad |
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-Anonymously bla bla-
Here's an idea ; offer your services to Jasonort. I would like to see that . The Betcoin.ag scam is already in the "Warnings" section. If someone wants to send his money to anonymous criminals, then he can gladly do this, but without the support of Game Protect. Jasonort can gladly register his next account(s) thru Game Protect and we support also sites with bitcoin deposits and withdrawals |
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1) Betcoin.ag is a publicly approven scam! If they would provably state the name of the operator, I could sue them instantly for fraud... 2) Promote a publicly approven scam = participation in this scam 3) Participation in a scam = criminal offense Who approved betcoin ? The criminal laws and the false and misleading statements on their website approved that betcoin.ag is a fraud. Do you know the meaning of the word ? No. please explain? If we're gonna talk about criminal offences; where did you register your bussiness ? Where did betcoin.ag register their business? Did you report taxes on that income ? Game Protect is a non-profit organisation. Tax evasion is a criminal offence Thank you for the info, was not aware of. |
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Ahh, sportsbet.io actually process withdrawals means nothing and when it will come to the point that they will not, then it is too late. Even if they have terms and conditions, what prevent them from not running away with our coins? there is nothing that could protect us with this. Technically nothing prevent them from running away. But usually people do not commit criminal offenses because they could see prison time and or could be faced with litigation proceedings. This is at least how our system works. Imagine there would be no laws and everyone can just do what he like. I have seen alot of gambling sites went missing here and most would still have user's coin on their site so having terms and conditions isnt relevant at all If people do not want to claim and enforce their rights, yes then terms and conditions are not relevant. But if people want to claim and enforce their rights, then they are very important because they are the basis of a relationship between contract partners: If you send bitcoins to the domain sportsbet.io (LOL), what is it? Is it a donation, a business share or a loan to the domain sportsbet.io? If you know who the receiver of your bitcoins is, then you can of course initiate legal action against him if he embezzle your coins! But first it must be stated who the receiver and what your deposit is: If it is a donation, then of course he can not embezzle it. Embezzlement/theft is a criminal offense in almost every country in this world, so why would you not be able to sue him? Always when someone breached criminal laws, then you can sue him! |
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I prefer gambling sites where I at least provably know who the operator is. If something will happen, embezzlement/fraud, etc., then I know at least who has my money and after who I have to go! |
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A negative rating is only appropriate if you were either scammed by said person, or you strongly believe that said person is a scammer (see the description of negative ratings on everyone's trust page). I would argue that you should not leave a negative rating against someone unless they meet a fairly broad definition of scammer. No idea which part you are missing? 1) Betcoin.ag is a publicly approven scam! If they would provably state the name of the operator, I could sue them instantly for fraud... 2) Promote a publicly approven scam = participation in this scam 3) Participation in a scam = criminal offense Unless they defraud you, you do not have standing to sue them for fraud. I don't think that betcoin has been proven to be a fraud, but would rather say that I strongly believe that betcoin is a fraud (scam). I can sue anyone who publicly committed the criminal offense of fraud, I do not need to be a victim of it. Gladly, criminal laws and civil rights work based on facts and not on "thoughts". Imagine what a chaos it would be if they would depend on thoughts? This would at least require to introduce a thought police... |
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A sportsbook that has no terms and conditions, can not proof that they pay the too good to be true promotions from their own pocket and is run by criminals, can be never a good sportsbook!
You are making this sounds difficult, if you have suggestion for them feel free to write it here rather bashing here. You are making a fuss for their free raffle, it is a bonus afterall and it doesnt have a weird requirement for any user to join that just some spare 5 mbtc to wager , everyone has 5 mbtc obviously Yeah, I think this is a form of black campaign against sportsbook. Maybe he wants to be a hero, but instead it will turn what he wants. Because it is sportbets.io actually deliver what they promised Sportbet.io has no terms and conditions. Therefore, they do not "promise" anything, at least nothing juridical valid. No. Stating facts is not a black campaign. If their facts give a bad impression to the public, then it is sportsbet.io's own fault. No one forced them to act in such a manner. Despite of this, anyone can send as much bitcoins as he like to??? So it is everyone's own and free choice how he would like to interact with sportsbet.io Ahh, sportsbet.io actually process withdrawals means nothing and when it will come to the point that they will not, then it is too late. |
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Is there any promotions for the casino games? The site has given away many btc for the sportsbook but I dont find any promos on the casino games.
it's not the casino games, but sport betting and at the moment at sportsbet is a great sport betting fast withdrawal and deposit and have a lot promotion. don't be late to join. A sportsbook that has no terms and conditions, can not proof that they pay the too good to be true promotions from their own pocket and is run by criminals, can be never a good sportsbook! |
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So, you're spewing all this stuff about licensing and stuff then you're trying to refer me to a campaign that isn't licensed in any jurisdiction? Are you confused? "...it should be not that difficult to find something more reputable" is not referring you to anyone specifically. As I have already explained to you several times: The license is only to have a provably identity of the operator. If an operator has stated his provably identity on the website, for what would you need a license? You are the one who is confused, obviously. |
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^^Right. Very valid points and questions.
However, a quick investigation of the other gambling operations advertised on this forum demonstrates that there are not many who do have a license of any kind, nor has their RNG's been audited and certified by any governing bodies. That seems to be the unregulated decentralized nature of the bitcoin economy.
Did I complain about the RNG? To have a license or not is only relevant if the site is a publicly approven scam like betcoin.ag or do not provably state the name of the operator. Publicly approved scams and not provably state the name of the operator are symptoms of the unregulated and decentralized bitcoins, but they are not the nature of the bitcoin economy. But, I ask you this: Is it not substantial at all that some of the software providers Betcoin.ag contracts out to, like the Winning Poker Network, are licensed in some jurisdictions and there have been audits conducted on their RNG's? No. It is not substantial at all that the software provider Winning Poker Network is licensed in Costa Rica. A Costa Rica license is for players useless. The only help a Costa Rica license deliver is the name of the operator. I am not aware that any software provider do financial audits of their contract partners, therefore software providers are useless for players! What I do not understand is why you persist to promote a publicly approven scam, while there are other operators with signature campaigns? Is it because their payment is too good to be true compared to other campaigns or what is the reason? Which campaign are you talking about that is licensed, regulated, and more reputable then the Winning Poker Network? Refer me to them and I will check it out. There is obviously a misunderstood on your behalf. Licensed does not mean "regulated". A Costa Rica or Curacao eGaming license does not regulate anything! As the Winning Poker Network allows a publicly approven scam to use their poker client and name, it should be not that difficult to find something more reputable. If I take a look at betcoin.ag, then almost any other signature campaign should be more reputable, but you will likely get paid less. |
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as I remember there was no clear terms , the only thing that you had to do is to place one bet on the Euro
there were many multi accounters in the previous lotteries , and the cheaters survived all the lottery rounds except the last one
now I feel that the upcoming promos would be real fun and fair after the last experience
If there are no terms and conditions, based on what would be the multi-accounters cheaters? |
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The first and most important thing is that you only invest into companies where you provably know who the operator is. This does not guarantee that they will not run away with your investment, but at least you know to who you have to look after. Do not make the mistake and send your coins to hide the identity companies like many players do for gambling purposes. The house having an edge does guarantee nothing! The competition is high, the operator has to spend a lot of money for advertising, promotions, business expenses, etc.. More and more online gaming companies are nowadays "ponzi schemes", especially in a decreasing market. The times where you could simply open a legitimate cryptocoin casino and the ruble rolled are long gone. But the ponzi schemes are still working, because gross = net! |
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Betcoin.ag Poker Terms of Service (TOS) BetcoinPoker.com advises You to read all of these documents carefully as each forms part of the legally binding agreement between You and BetcoinPoker.com -> It is juridical not possible to have a legally binding agreement with a domain name! Legally binding agreements are only possible between legal entities or private persons. The “Terms of Service” does also neither state the name of the operator nor a gambling license (if any exist), nothing! -> False and misleading statements are the criminal offense of fraud! Fraud Act 20162 Fraud by false representation(1) A person is in breach of this section if he— (a) dishonestly makes a false representation, and (b) intends, by making the representation— (i) to make a gain for himself or another, or (ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss. (2) A representation is false if— (a) it is untrue or misleading, and (b) the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading. (3) “Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a representation as to the state of mind of— (a) the person making the representation, or (b) any other person. (4) A representation may be express or implied. (5) For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it (or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without human intervention). Betcoin.ag governed in Hong Kong or in Curacao or nowhere?25. GOVERNING LAW
These Agreements shall be governed by and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong. You irrevocably agree to submit to the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of Curacao in The Netherlands Antilles for the settlement of any dispute or matters arising out of or concerning these Agreements or their enforceability. Based on what shall the alleged agreements with Betcoin.ag be governed and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong? How could “These Agreements” be governed and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong, while online gambling is not allowed in Hong Kong? Does this make sense? If the Betcoin.ag operation shall be governed by and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong, why do you need to irrevocably agree to submit to the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of Curacao in The Netherlands Antilles for the settlement of any dispute or matters arising out of or concerning these Agreements or their enforceability? Is the company who operates Betcoin.ag incorporated in Curacao and holds a worthless Curacao eGaming license? If this is the case, what is the name of the company? Why is the name of the operator not stated on their website? If Betcoin.ag has a valid license, why do they not state the seal on their website? Do you feel comfortable to send your Bitcoin to something while you do not know who the operator is? Would it matter for you if this something would have a gambling license, or do you not care at all? ^^Right. Very valid points and questions. However, a quick investigation of the other gambling operations advertised on this forum demonstrates that there are not many who do have a license of any kind, nor has their RNG's been audited and certified by any governing bodies. That seems to be the unregulated decentralized nature of the bitcoin economy. Did I complain about the RNG? To have a license or not is only relevant if the site is a publicly proven scam like betcoin.ag or do not provably state the name of the operator. Publicly approved scams and not provably state the name of the operator are symptoms of the unregulated and decentralized bitcoins, but they are not the nature of the bitcoin economy. But, I ask you this: Is it not substantial at all that some of the software providers Betcoin.ag contracts out to, like the Winning Poker Network, are licensed in some jurisdictions and there have been audits conducted on their RNG's? No. It is not substantial at all that the software provider Winning Poker Network is licensed in Costa Rica. A Costa Rica license is for players useless. The only help a Costa Rica license deliver is the name of the operator. I am not aware that any software provider do financial audits of their contract partners, therefore software providers are useless for players! What I do not understand is why you persist to promote a publicly approven scam, while there are other operators with signature campaigns? Is it because their payment is too good to be true compared to other campaigns or what is the reason? |
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Betcoin.ag Poker Terms of Service (TOS) BetcoinPoker.com advises You to read all of these documents carefully as each forms part of the legally binding agreement between You and BetcoinPoker.com -> It is juridical not possible to have a legally binding agreement with a domain name! Legally binding agreements are only possible between legal entities or private persons. The “Terms of Service” does also neither state the name of the operator nor a gambling license (if any exist), nothing! -> False and misleading statements are the criminal offense of fraud! Fraud Act 20162 Fraud by false representation(1) A person is in breach of this section if he— (a) dishonestly makes a false representation, and (b) intends, by making the representation— (i) to make a gain for himself or another, or (ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss. (2) A representation is false if— (a) it is untrue or misleading, and (b) the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading. (3) “Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a representation as to the state of mind of— (a) the person making the representation, or (b) any other person. (4) A representation may be express or implied. (5) For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it (or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without human intervention). Betcoin.ag governed in Hong Kong or in Curacao or nowhere?25. GOVERNING LAW
These Agreements shall be governed by and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong. You irrevocably agree to submit to the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of Curacao in The Netherlands Antilles for the settlement of any dispute or matters arising out of or concerning these Agreements or their enforceability. Based on what shall the alleged agreements with Betcoin.ag be governed and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong? How could “These Agreements” be governed and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong, while online gambling is not allowed in Hong Kong? Does this make sense? If the Betcoin.ag operation shall be governed by and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong, why do you need to irrevocably agree to submit to the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of Curacao in The Netherlands Antilles for the settlement of any dispute or matters arising out of or concerning these Agreements or their enforceability? Is the company who operates Betcoin.ag incorporated in Curacao and holds a worthless Curacao eGaming license? If this is the case, what is the name of the company? Why is the name of the operator not stated on their website? If Betcoin.ag has a valid license, why do they not state the seal on their website? Do you feel comfortable to send your Bitcoin to something while you do not know who the operator is? Would it matter for you if this something would have a gambling license, or do you not care at all? |
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Casino is pretty good. All systems are built is also very tidy, design that is presented is also very nice, all the look and the features provided are also very good. I hope games is fair
If you do not care about your money, why would you care about the conditions to where you have sent your money? Does not make much sense!  |
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Where are the terms and conditions of the raffle-shows/promotions stated?
Maybe I'm missing something but can't understand what is the promo you are referring to: nay you please provide a link to it. Thanks in advance for your help. |
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