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4541  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 15, 2023, 11:14:22 PM
3 peat was more than enough buddy.
4542  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Was able to snag a 4070 at Best Buy today. on: April 15, 2023, 05:35:28 PM
Looks like the sweet spot of RTX 4xxx generation
Only one connector, 12gb GDDR6X and a reasonable price.

Post some actual pictures of your gpu if you can, and what you will mine with it.
Did you buy one just to test it?

In my country it is not available yet, only for shipment starting May 15

Yeah first off I got this one.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-12gb-gddr6x-graphics-card-titanium-and-black/6539358.p?skuId=6539358


here it is paired with a 3090 just Hooked up to do octopus

it pulls 134 watts to do 59 mh

and 3090 pulls 299 watts to do 99 mh

clearly more efficient than a 3090 while doing octopus.









4543  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 15, 2023, 02:50:53 PM
although it looks a bit like snapshots out of a Village People movie made by Netflix

You say that like it's a bad thing?


just added a smiley in hope for clarity.  it was actually meant to be funny... fwiw  Roll Eyes

And Netflix is bad imo.  It was a joke on them and their focus on race theory, not a joke on gays or blacks ... even though I like the idea that anyone bears the right to be laughed at

probably I should not make jokes while having hang over.  ..fittingly, yesterday I was in a gay bar in my neighborhood. I was there with a girl though.  
The toilets where permanently occupied with guys snorting coke. But really nice atmosphere.. the barkeepers were old Russian ladies

Village People I really like btw





Life: Stranger than fiction.

Better believe it.


Oh yes!  Actually I don't just believe that... I take it for a fact, since I got to know quantum physics.

Maybe it's even provable intrinsically, because any strangeness of human fiction was produced by reality.

A good example for the strangeness of life is just Bitcoin and what it has done to the lives of many of us... probably no one fantasized that in advance...






I did not think you were insulting blacks or gays, but I am a white 66 year old baby boomer so as JJG says what the fuck do I know.


Internet has always sucked for communication since the feelings and attitude of the post are not always easy to understand.

BTW as a comment on race agenda Netflix loves to show mixed raced couples.

In real life you still may or may not see many mixed raced couples.

Although there are lots of them in Brooklyn, NY and not many of them in Monmouth, County NJ.

So if you live in Brooklyn and see lots of mixed race couples Netflix may seem nice.
but if you live in Monmouth, County NJ and do not see a single mixed race couple for months Netflix may seem like bullshit.

4544  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 15, 2023, 02:12:29 PM
Its only a model
I'm surrounded by freaks!
show me the people you surround yourself with, and I tell you who you are  Wink








quite tangible self introduction

although it looks a bit like snapshots out of a Village People movie made by Netflix  Cheesy


food looks good.  A nice cheeseburger and fries.
4545  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 15, 2023, 01:23:51 PM
When fed pivot?


https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/this-week-in-bidenomics-shoppers-run-out-of-gas-175749513.html


May 2-3
June 13-14
July 25-26



maybe July we see -0.25
4546  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Was able to snag a 4070 at Best Buy today. on: April 15, 2023, 12:59:17 PM
Take your time with shopping, look at the tests.
First test on the Кaspa coin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf92ldQfdMQ&ab_channel=DizzyMining

970Mh/s and 770Mh/s with lower kernel settings.
I haven't seen any outstanding achievements yet, so I'll wait a week. I'm interested in the hashrate of all popular coins on this video card

It comes today.

I will likely do octopus with it.
4547  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2023 Diff thread now opened. on: April 15, 2023, 12:43:04 PM


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https://www.bitrawr.com/difficulty-estimator

Latest Block:   785523  (4 minutes ago)

Current Pace:   101.3750%  (1300 / 1282.37 expected, 17.63 ahead)

Previous Difficulty:   46843400286276.55                           
Current Difficulty:   47887764338536.25                           
Next Difficulty:   between 48582040439831 and 48683921911148
Next Difficulty Change:   between +1.4498% and +1.6625%
Previous Retarget:   April 6, 2023 at 10:57 AM  (+2.2295%)
Next Retarget (earliest):   Thursday at 6:23 AM  (in 4d 21h 42m 52s)
Next Retarget (latest):   Thursday at 6:58 AM  (in 4d 22h 17m 22s)
Projected Epoch Length:   between 13d 19h 26m 33s and 13d 20h 1m 2s
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onwards and upwards.

about 4 ½ - 5 days to go
4548  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining 273 blocks solved! on: April 15, 2023, 02:41:11 AM
will tack 9 hours on to 31 day rental.

Just in case this P2P hashrate renting becomes a thing in the future, I think there should be better ways to measure that to avoid any troubles between both parties, maybe something like the number of shares (assuming the pool's diff never changes), or maybe by looking at the 7-day average even for 1-month rental, the two parties can check the hashrate on 7 days intervals and if it's within +-2-3% then everything is good.

Some pools keep track of the average monthly hashrate, and some even provide between two dates hashrate, not sure if CK is willing to add something like that, so maybe we should figure something out, I just wouldn't want to see fellow miners starting new accusation topics claiming the other party didn't stick to the contract, I think many things can go wrong with the manual tracking like the one you did.



I can sponsor the P2P hash exchange creation

will start working on it next month if i success collecting the hashes i want to rent

philipma1957 its okay no need to cover the 9h

will organize it more in the future rentals

Okay we are trying to create a new model. So bugs will happen.

Shares may be best.

At ck is a chart makable for

24 hours

100th = x shares
200th = 2x shares
300th = 3x shares.
400th = 4x shares
500th = 5x shares

Seems to be best way.

https://solo.ckpool.org/users/bc1qaswx0t6gps4xzr4neku8ygr6f7qwc65jt5y3c3

shows

27,039,014,918 shares

we are close to 48 hours if you count the missing 9 hours

so 48/39 x 27,039,014,918 = ballpark for 2 days.

33,200,000,000/2 = 16,600,000,000 shares a day for 510 th

514,600,000,000 for 31 days is close.

I will try to get a better number but that is close.
4549  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 15, 2023, 02:21:27 AM
Fucking conspiracy theorists.

Some dude i came to slowly build personal relations with over a couple of years now, and this is a rare type of event in my life, actively texted me today about chemtrails.
I was like "R U SERIOUS?!". I had these visual, clear words in my mind: "the show must go on. Always...".
After re-texting a few dozen lines of debunkenings and solid reasonings against various absolutely insane sub-theories and statements, i came to a conclusion:

There goes a friendship candidate.

Years wasted.

Go to Start (as in "Monopoly", the game)


I mean, i wouldn't agree to ban Telegram, WhatsApp and the likes, but these message groups avalanche in mobile social media clearly goes over the top of most peoples heads.
Still i got no WhatsApp, i am not in a single messaging group in other messenger apps, of which i only use one .more or less regularly.


I mean no offence here, but your attitude is juvenile. Who cares if your friend believes in chem trails or other obvious crazy conspiracy theories. Is he hurting anyone by believing in that? People believe in all sorts of sh1t, and so what, I bet you even believe in things others disagree with. Perhaps even some of your existing friends and family. And why try to debunk his crap? If someone thougt chocolate ice cream was the best but you thought vanilla ice cream was the best would you argue with them about that then cut them out of your life when you couldn’t convince them.

Seriously, cutting people off because their thinking doesn't align with yours is exactly why the world is so god damn divided these days. Whatever happened to agree to disagree then continue on with things that you both agree.

I actually have a friend who believes in more than just chem trails, he also believes in a flat earth, fake moon landing, mystical energy sources, and other crap. Yeah, I think he is crazy, but he is a nice guy and I enjoy his company. In fact, being that he is open to others ideas he is now also a bitcoiner. I have other acquaintances who are ardent no coiners and they are very unaccepting of others and other ideas.


My partner believes in flat earth 🌏
My partner believes in chem trails
My partner believes in fake moon landing

As for mystical energy sources we both believe in that. Since they are mystical they don’t define well and are easy to believe in.

Most likely I am able to be his friend because we both believe in solar.
He has a solar company.
We like mining gear.

Also having had a complete psychotic break and seeing a lot of unreal shit I can honestly tell you
The universe can do whatever the fuck it wants in fact it does so I don’t sweat the small stuff.

So you have a common cauuse that you are working towards but don't agree with everything. My god man! How do you do it.

Like I said if you saw some of the shit I have seen from 1979 to 1985 you would know there is more to the picture than meets the eye.

But I am a deep endless universe/multiverse guy so the flat earth one is the hardest one for me to keep the peace on.
4550  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 15, 2023, 01:40:37 AM
Fucking conspiracy theorists.

Some dude i came to slowly build personal relations with over a couple of years now, and this is a rare type of event in my life, actively texted me today about chemtrails.
I was like "R U SERIOUS?!". I had these visual, clear words in my mind: "the show must go on. Always...".
After re-texting a few dozen lines of debunkenings and solid reasonings against various absolutely insane sub-theories and statements, i came to a conclusion:

There goes a friendship candidate.

Years wasted.

Go to Start (as in "Monopoly", the game)


I mean, i wouldn't agree to ban Telegram, WhatsApp and the likes, but these message groups avalanche in mobile social media clearly goes over the top of most peoples heads.
Still i got no WhatsApp, i am not in a single messaging group in other messenger apps, of which i only use one .more or less regularly.


I mean no offence here, but your attitude is juvenile. Who cares if your friend believes in chem trails or other obvious crazy conspiracy theories. Is he hurting anyone by believing in that? People believe in all sorts of sh1t, and so what, I bet you even believe in things others disagree with. Perhaps even some of your existing friends and family. And why try to debunk his crap? If someone thougt chocolate ice cream was the best but you thought vanilla ice cream was the best would you argue with them about that then cut them out of your life when you couldn’t convince them.

Seriously, cutting people off because their thinking doesn't align with yours is exactly why the world is so god damn divided these days. Whatever happened to agree to disagree then continue on with things that you both agree.

I actually have a friend who believes in more than just chem trails, he also believes in a flat earth, fake moon landing, mystical energy sources, and other crap. Yeah, I think he is crazy, but he is a nice guy and I enjoy his company. In fact, being that he is open to others ideas he is now also a bitcoiner. I have other acquaintances who are ardent no coiners and they are very unaccepting of others and other ideas.


My partner believes in flat earth 🌏
My partner believes in chem trails
My partner believes in fake moon landing

As for mystical energy sources we both believe in that. Since they are mystical they don’t define well and are easy to believe in.

Most likely I am able to be his friend because we both believe in solar.
He has a solar company.
We like mining gear.

Also having had a complete psychotic break and seeing a lot of unreal shit I can honestly tell you
The universe can do whatever the fuck it wants in fact it does so I don’t sweat the small stuff.
4551  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Why dont bitcoin hardware manufacturers re release old equip with smaller node on: April 15, 2023, 01:24:40 AM
The smaller node is present in the latest models. And they are all targeted at industrial miners. There would be no point in releasing an S9 with S19 chips, you would end with an S19 again.

After the R4 Bitmain has not revisited the idea of a home miner, they simply don't justify the cost. So people do it on their own. Just get a damaged S19 with one working hashboard, and there you have a 1000W miner that should produce about 33TH.

This is nothing like a game console, Bitcoin miners are boring and do the exact same thing, just more efficiently. The S19 is already compatible with the same mining pools, and that's all they care about. The S9 form factor brings nothing to the benefit of mining operations. Curiously (or not, since it was formed by a former Bitmain team) it is MicroBT that has continued this form factor, so you could get one of those instead.

MicroBT repurposed s9 cases with m10 chips.

30th and 1500 watts.

I could talk about this topic a lot.

mining with 1 board s19s set to low power would mean 27th and 700 watts.

The real question is why don’t they build this but how much will it sell for.



Do not think of BTC mining cost or profits.

Think of mining as dollar per watt.

Bitmain thinks of all gear a dollar per watt they do not think that BTC is god and all other coins are shit coins.

Frankly scrypt looks like it will always produce $$ per watt.

I think bitmain attacks btc by not building 1 board s19 space heaters on purpose.
Also they restrict chips to guys like sidehack.

They want big farms to leave BTC for scrypt.

All this is future speculation. say 2056 when btc may struggle and big farms switch to L7s or maybe L 15s.
4552  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 14, 2023, 04:30:06 PM
... if you remind yourself how many people still believe in $$$ (fiat) for such a long time on this planet, the a$$hole-to-bitcoiner ratio turns out clearly in their favour "favour".
Opinions are not facts ...




Well I still have issues with BTC working for hundreds of years. I think scrypt  algo with LTC/Doge is much better for a 200 year run than BTC

but yeah Fiat is on Life support.

And with me being 66 and no kids BTC only needs to do well for 20 years.

My advice which according to JJG is terrible is:

DCA

BTC and LTC and Doge

If you follow my advice and lose money do not blame me.  Why follow my advice.
4553  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Make an S9 quite? on: April 14, 2023, 04:11:21 PM
I didn't add wood, just cardboard and tape (since the exhaust fan was removed). Yes, merely blocking the extra empty space does the trick. Don't do it and it overheats. Works like magic (at least a year tested).

A definite improvement on my idea. As it is easier and cheaper.


Also do no use the apw3 psu get something like this one.


https://www.bestbuy.com/site/corsair-rme-series-rm750e-80-plus-gold-fully-modular-low-noise-atx-3-0-and-pcie-5-0-power-supply-black/6537989.p?

this is a good 1 board psu very quiet.

it can do 2 boards if you use brains  and set to low powers (under 500 watts)
4554  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 14, 2023, 03:58:42 PM


Good morning. In less than an hour, Wall Observer's from here will join others from around the world. And you will be launching the largest "ignore" battle in this history of Wall Observer Thread

Wall Observer -- that word should have new meaning for all of us today.

We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore.

We will be united in our common interests.

Perhaps its fate that today is the 14th of April, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom, not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution -- but from shit posters and merit whores!

We're fighting for our right to post, without shitty re-tweets and poorly presented meme drowning us.

And should we win the day, the 14th of April will no longer be known as an "International Be Kind to Lawyers Day", but as the day when the Wall Observer Thread declared in one voice:

We will not go quietly into the night!

We will not vanish without a fight!

We're going to live on!

We're going to survive!"

Today, we celebrate our "Ignore shit posters and merit whore Day!"

I'll give up. I did what I could

Only need to ignore 5 or 6 names.

4555  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: How much do I need to start mining? on: April 14, 2023, 03:14:48 PM
Quote
To gain experience, you can buy a small mining farm on 4x Rx470 video cards, but this is only for training.And you need to have at least a little experience with components.
Training? Training in what - how to setup a PC for mining with GPU's? Um, considering this is the Bitcoin area and using GPU's is only viable for mining alt crapcoins, that route is useless.

Aside from knowing how to deal with the heat and noise Bitcoin mining hardware is pretty much plug-n-play.

Look GPUS are perfectly fine way to mine BTC indirectly on nicehash.

I think the purity definition asked on this section is wrong.


But I do respect your right to believe in that definition.

I point 7gh to nicehash mining with gpus

makes me about 50 usd in btc a day. say 0.00151000 btc.



So gpus are a good way to make btc indirectly which this board does not approve talking about.

And dollar per watt earnings on that is decent. about 16kwatts an hour to make 0.00151 btc pre power cost.
 
but 5 s19's would burn 16kwatts and earn  0.001424 btc pre power cost


So to never speak of gpu mining to get btc in this section is a disservice .  In my belief system. which I hope you respect as I do respect your belief system.
4556  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 14, 2023, 03:02:05 PM
We did reach 31k on a few exchanges.











Next question

When 32k?


Followed by When Page Parity?
4557  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining 273 blocks solved! on: April 14, 2023, 01:48:28 PM
mine has been offline for 3 ½ hours

https://solo.ckpool.org/users/bc1qaswx0t6gps4xzr4neku8ygr6f7qwc65jt5y3c3

heat issue here in New Jersey

Should be back online in 4-5 hours.



update

offline 640 am to 320 pm just about 8hours an 40 minutes make it 9 hours.

will tack 9 hours on to 31 day rental.

https://solo.ckpool.org/users/bc1qaswx0t6gps4xzr4neku8ygr6f7qwc65jt5y3c3

Still have same high share of

1,301,478,443,511

need

47,887,764,338,536.25
4558  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is your take on the pump coming? on: April 14, 2023, 02:18:31 AM
It is not a pump 40k-50k is what should be todays price.

If we get to 40-50k and run to 80k or 90k that's a pump.

I would sell everything if we go to 100k in may
4559  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 14, 2023, 01:38:10 AM
$31K in one hour confirmed


This could be the one

got to 30864 which is very close


edit and got to 30936 which is AYH
4560  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 14, 2023, 12:46:16 AM
there you go buddy... another ayh

30800

31k realll soon
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