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with pascal we can kill the diff for another month or two, so no need to worry
1 rig full of 6 x 1070 is currently earning 0.037 a day, and consume only 900w or less which is better than anything else at the moment
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litecoin inutile minarli, sono al massimo alla pari dei bitcoin come profitto, quindi meglio orientarsi su questi ultimi, l's9 al momento è l'unico che ti permette un ritorno sostanzioso con i prezzi dell'energia elettrica italiani
minare ethereum è meglio di entrambi, ma solo con le nuove gpu(1070, 480 etc...), anche se in realtà con un rig di 970 si è alla pari di un s9 attualmente, come hash/watt, quindi anche quella è un opzione
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I'm traveling this week and catching up on the news at the airport. The brexit happened?! WTF did you blokes do? Oh well, good for BTC at least. Now if we have a nexit, and swexit will be a hell of a year.
this is why all those thing are not neherent to the recent increase, if bitcoin each time it need to move up we need a fiat scandal, we are screwed, and bitcoin failed |
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you can not overclock them with that heatsink, that thing is pure trash, is sitting at 89°, will blow your card on the long run, better to wait for custom design as usual, which would mean paying more than $200
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manipulators like to play when big news are in play it does not matter if they are not directly correlated with bitcoin, they have a greater chance to cause a movements, on the market with the correct timing
brexit was used like grexit, nothign more or less, but here this time the halving has almost all the effect for the last price increase
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there is no reason for the decline, this is a regular thing and do not panic. it is evident today bitcoin has again increased.
though there is no reason for it to grow too, in my opinion the price will bounce back though anything might happen there is, the value must grow or miner are fucked, and more usage from average joe bring more value, on the other hand there is zero reason for it to fall, and no buying cheap coin isn't a reason... |
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i don't know about the cost of those big fan that deliver 1500cfm, but with 3 noctua industrial(140mmx3 versus 4cm between each gpu plus 3.75cm for each gpu) you can cool down a rig perfectly, they can be pushed to 156 cfm and create a perfect tunnel between the gpu
assuming you have 16 rig, you need 48 of those and it's not cheap, around $1k
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Ever since the bubble the smart and wealthy knew bitcoin was here to stay and at the least is a new asset. First step was to run the price into the ground by shorting and negative media to start accumulating at a much lower price point. But the shills and the whales can only keep it down for so long which is why were now over $600 from $200. But the shills will never stop becuase there only job is to instill doubt into new buyers and weak hands. Rich get richer and poor get poorer. This is the same in bitcoin as in fiat. Bitcoin is still in its infancy and is a long term investment and hedge like gold. You should not buy btc in the hopes to sell 2 weeks later to make money, unless your a pure trader of course. Long term is the only way for average joes to think about bitcoin right now. Bitcoin will never just go away and go back to $10 per coin. Its here to stay and will appreciate (almost) every year. Don't totally miss out. Put at least something in cold storage for long term. You will regret it if you don't.
Im not a fanatic of long term holding since we all know that bitcoin price suffers lots of fluctuations even at 24h monitoring. Also I don't want to waste the supposed profits we can get by taking actions every price fluctuations while you are on hold process. Well for average joes, I think your concern is applicable. Agree with that but learn also to improve their strategy while on the process of holding coins. you are also avoiding the supposed losses, this is the point of holding, being neutral if you know that bitcoin will be big enough that few coins will make you rich, why exposing your saving with a risky trade at all? i prefer a safe strategy, while generating coin in another way, via mining for example, which is much less risky(there is actually almost 0 risk in gpu mining) You obviously make btc from advertising a bunch of nonsense in your signature - plus a bunch of shill accounts you have as well. Why don't you stop being so f'g cheap and buy some bitcoins? actually no, i'm posting more than what i'm paying for, this because when i see bullshit i must respond my income is from signature and mining yes, but more from mining, signature do not give that much nowadays |
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if you have a marketcap of $5k any ass-hole can manipulate it, pretty much like a insecure network, any retard with a single asic can attack it
No, this is flat-out wrong. I'm really tired to repeat it again, market cap is irrelevant, even if it is equal to mere $5,000. If every trader has no more than $0.01 at his disposal and all $5,000 are traded, how can such a market be manipulated? And still less can it be manipulated if the trading volume by far exceeds the market cap. On the other hand, if someone (or a group of someones, lol) controls a significant part of trading volume (not even the whole market cap), no matter how large the market cap itself is, they can still manipulate the market. What matters is wealth distribution and the amount of coins actually traded (specifically trading volume, because one coin can change many hands) relative to the total amount of coins (since the lesser this ratio the lesser amount of coins would be required to corner the market)... So even if the Bitcoin market cap grows a million times, this won't change a thing the point is that every trader will have more than 0.01 if i buy slowly the whole $5k market cap , then i can dump the price and causing a panic dump, after that i rebuy all my coin at cheaper rate |
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Ever since the bubble the smart and wealthy knew bitcoin was here to stay and at the least is a new asset. First step was to run the price into the ground by shorting and negative media to start accumulating at a much lower price point. But the shills and the whales can only keep it down for so long which is why were now over $600 from $200. But the shills will never stop becuase there only job is to instill doubt into new buyers and weak hands. Rich get richer and poor get poorer. This is the same in bitcoin as in fiat. Bitcoin is still in its infancy and is a long term investment and hedge like gold. You should not buy btc in the hopes to sell 2 weeks later to make money, unless your a pure trader of course. Long term is the only way for average joes to think about bitcoin right now. Bitcoin will never just go away and go back to $10 per coin. Its here to stay and will appreciate (almost) every year. Don't totally miss out. Put at least something in cold storage for long term. You will regret it if you don't.
Im not a fanatic of long term holding since we all know that bitcoin price suffers lots of fluctuations even at 24h monitoring. Also I don't want to waste the supposed profits we can get by taking actions every price fluctuations while you are on hold process. Well for average joes, I think your concern is applicable. Agree with that but learn also to improve their strategy while on the process of holding coins. you are also avoiding the supposed losses, this is the point of holding, being neutral if you know that bitcoin will be big enough that few coins will make you rich, why exposing your saving with a risky trade at all? i prefer a safe strategy, while generating coin in another way, via mining for example, which is much less risky(there is actually almost 0 risk in gpu mining) |
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it does not make sense because those coin in hold mode can at any time enter in play and destroy your daily trading like nothing, so one must take into account the whole marketcap and not the daily trading done with the coins in action What doesn't make sense exactly? Those old new coins would just add up to the volume traded without affecting the market cap unless they change the price. The trading volume affects the price (and even more volatility, in an opposite way), and through it the market cap (not the other way round). Strictly speaking, volume could fall even if there were more coins in the market (e.g. the same coin changes less hands over the same period), and it could rise even with less coins in the market (the same coin changes more hands). You are essentially putting the cart before the horse... Needless to say that this has nothing to do with my daily trading since there is none (just in case) besides that only a stupid call other stupid, you random insulting as usual don't bring nothing to the discussion, keep them for yourself So you chose to be stupid, okay then (but don't blame me since it is your choice, just deal with it) that's my point, they WOULD AFFECT the price, if they enter in play, so you must consider the whole marketcap and not only the current coins that are used And so what? How knowing the market cap is going to help you exactly? You know the price, you know the total number of coins mined, okay, but you don't know how many coins are actually traded and how many are just stashed away. Thereby it is useless for anything practical that I can think of... Further, if the price changes (for whatever reason), the market cap being a function of the price changes too i'm just saying that the marketcap it's directly correlated with the possibility of more action in the market and more volume that can lead to more stability if there are more money invovled it will be harder for manipulator to manipulate the price, but this is true only with a big marketcap, because in this case people need more money to enter in play and they can buy fewer coins so less prone to manipulation if you have a marketcap of $5k any ass-hole can manipulate it, pretty much like a insecure network, any retard with a single asic can attack it |
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bullshit, and most likely a virus, there is not a single coin that when mined with a single cpu(is this a joke) can deliver 0.0026 per hour....
you need 3 rig filled with current gen card or 1.5 with new card to have that earning per hour
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i missed it in all these whining, but what is the best setup for multiple gpu? i'm using the -L single 0 because otherwise i'm experiencing a crash when leaving on default...
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Exactly this "tiny % of coins" determines the price (read volatility, i.e. what we started with), not the market cap, which itself is just a product of multiplication of two numbers, one of which is price. And exactly because of this the +7T dollar gold market cap is irrelevant while the volume actually traded is. Ttrading volume may actually be times the market cap if, for example, the same coin changes many hands in the given time span...
I'm really fascinated how stubborn or stupid you are (you choose which)
it does not make sense because those coin in hold mode can at any time enter in play and destroy your daily trading like nothing, so one must take into account the whole marketcap and not the daily trading done with the coins in action What doesn't make sense exactly? Those old new coins would just add up to the volume traded without affecting the market cap unless they change the price. The trading volume affects the price (and even more volatility, in an opposite way), and through it the market cap (not the other way round). Strictly speaking, volume could fall even if there were more coins in the market (e.g. the same coin changes less hands over the same period), and it could rise even with less coins in the market (the same coin changes more hands). You are essentially putting the cart before the horse... Needless to say that this has nothing to do with my daily trading since there is none (just in case) besides that only a stupid call other stupid, you random insulting as usual don't bring nothing to the discussion, keep them for yourself So you chose to be stupid, okay then (but don't blame me since it is your choice, just deal with it) that's my point, they WOULD AFFECT the price, if they enter in play, so you must consider the whole marketcap and not only the current coins that are used agin you are not making sense on purpose, and again no i didn't choose anything, you are actually making shit up |
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What is the fix for nvidia 1080 on windows 7 64bit? I am getting .75MH/s, lol.
The fix is don't use Windoze. Brilliant! This is my main PC and gaming rig. I'm going to be using windows. use windows , but use windows 10, there may be a fix already also linux you need to use the server version not desktop, it give you more perf... Will just upgrading to windows 10 make it work? Or what exactly is the "fix already"? Dload links for drivers/fix? Amph doesn't know what he's talking about. He doesn't have a 1070 or any proof that anything works the way he's saying or it will be fixed. I know from a reliable source that a driver update will increase page size to 2MB on Win10 and this will fix the issue, just like it works on Linux. It is on the way. So someone has already tested this and it works? Will there be a update for W7/8 or are they SOL? Does this also pertain to other memory hard algos, such as NeoS? WHY on earth you don't try it yourself, you have a 1070, you just need to install windows 10 to see if it fix neos also, it's in your interest to do it... win 7 and 8 are most likely fucked, but all the other algo should work good on win 10 too, so no reason to live in the past Why would I spend hours doing that when I can ask a question, see if anyone has any idea, and then weigh and balance what to do after it? Think before you leap instead of leap before you think. People do other things other then mine and/or there are other things to do besides prototyping. As I mentioned before, I REVERTED from W10 to W8.1 because of better hashrates on W7/8. It has nothing to do with living in the past and everything to do with making smart decisions. Why do you even talk? it's just about not being lazy man, and few hours? are you serious, i can reformat win 7,8,10 in few minutes and "reinstall" everything in another 5 min, since you don't have anything to install just unpack the miner and you are ready i have everything ready under a big zip file... Yes, devs need to modify the way algo access memory to improve things on memory dependent algos (eth and neoscrypt to my knowledge) Pascal is 4k pte by default in win 7/8 (where maxwell is 128kb) but can be 2m pte (full memory coverage) On win 10 current - pascal and maxwell on new drivers are 64kb but pascal will be 2m by default with next driver AND win 10 insider preview and further win 10 july update (which didnt help neoscrypt for some reason - i think i saw 900khs but couldnt repro it - maybe I missed some build or setting i was using) it's strange that neos is not doing good, (even 900 isn't great) when on linx is already 1150, if that fix resolve the thing for etheruem it should solve neos also something wrong there, not sure if it has to do with the miner code either, because on linx it just work out of the box |
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What is the fix for nvidia 1080 on windows 7 64bit? I am getting .75MH/s, lol.
The fix is don't use Windoze. Brilliant! This is my main PC and gaming rig. I'm going to be using windows. use windows , but use windows 10, there may be a fix already also linux you need to use the server version not desktop, it give you more perf... Will just upgrading to windows 10 make it work? Or what exactly is the "fix already"? Dload links for drivers/fix? Amph doesn't know what he's talking about. He doesn't have a 1070 or any proof that anything works the way he's saying or it will be fixed. I know from a reliable source that a driver update will increase page size to 2MB on Win10 and this will fix the issue, just like it works on Linux. It is on the way. So someone has already tested this and it works? Will there be a update for W7/8 or are they SOL? Does this also pertain to other memory hard algos, such as NeoS? WHY on earth you don't try it yourself, you have a 1070, you just need to install windows 10 to see if it fix neos also, it's in your interest to do it... win 7 and 8 are most likely fucked, but all the other algo should work good on win 10 too, so no reason to live in the past |
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i don't have a 1070 so i'm asking for those that have one to do the job, otherwise i would not even asked anything, it's so obvious...
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brexit count absolutely zero here it's all for the halving, brexit is just an excuse for manipulators to cause panic dump and buy cheap coin
since all thelittle "fish" will likely fall in this kind of trap they can do it again and again
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You can easily estimate the real market for oil by multiplying production by price. 96 million barrels per day would give 35,040 million barrels per annum, which at the price of $50 per barrel would be 1.75 trillion dollars of oil produced annually (for the given conditions). The total amount of all gold out there estimated to be 182,000 metric tonnes which roughly equals to 5,650 million troy ounces. At the price of $1,300 per ounce you get your 7.1 trillion dollars of the so-called "market cap" for gold...
Now, the annual production of oil in dollar terms constitutes only a quarter of all gold produced throughout history
You cant work out gold cap based on physical supply as comex is currently leveraged over 500:1 so market cap is significantly higher. I'm comparing only physical oil with physical gold. Annual gold production in, say, 2014 reached 2,860 metric tons, which at $1,300 per ounce roughly equals 120 billion dollars. This number amounts to a little over 6% of oil production in dollar terms (strictly speaking, we should use the 2014 prices, and in this case the percentage shrinks to mere 3%). That's why I'm saying that gold market is actually by far smaller than oil market. 7 trillion dollar gold market cap is pointless per se since it cannot be used for comparison purposes. It is just a number which may be fun to count or learn about, lol, but which is as meaningless as it is misleading because it has nothing to do with real markets... All paper will burn it does not make sense to ignore the marketcap and see only the trading volume, because it is clear that not all the supply available will ever be used for trading, that's why i was not talking about trading volume, and i don't care about it even in bitcoin only a tiny % of coins is used for trading the vast majority are in hold mode, some are lost etc... Exactly this "tiny % of coins" determines the price (read volatility, i.e. what we started with), not the market cap, which itself is just a product of multiplication of two numbers, one of which is price. And exactly because of this the +7T dollar gold market cap is irrelevant while the volume actually traded is. Ttrading volume may actually be times the market cap if, for example, the same coin changes many hands in the given time span... I'm really fascinated how stubborn or stupid you are (you choose which) it does not make sense because those coin in hold mode can at any time enter in play and destroy your daily trading like nothing, so one must take into account the whole marketcap and not the daily trading done with the coins in action besides that only a stupid call other stupid, you random insulting as usual don't bring nothing to the discussion, keep them for yourself |
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