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4561  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 🕵️‍♂️Student Coin Team are Scammers in Disguise, Refused Paying Hunters Reward on: June 06, 2021, 09:56:15 AM
As with everything else in this accusation, the $70 million figure is out of context. $70 million is the peak value of the ICO proceeds at ETH's highest price.
I see, thanks for explanation. So he picked up the number that fits his little narrative the best Cheesy



Regardless, without posting the contract contents between the coin team and the bounty manager, this just looks like an extortion attempt to cash in on a successful project.

Clearly Bounty Detective was hoping to use sympathy from the Bitcointalk community as leverage (that idea already sounds stupid as I type it) for what appears to be an extortion scheme.
This part of the conversation (in the screenshot below) says much about bounty manager, and that his client's interest is very low on his priority list. Despite huge amount of bounty hunter's work being rejected, he insists that bounty pool is fixed and that it shouldn't be adjusted. To me that doesn't make any sense, and generally this stake system is seriously flawed unless bounty pool is can be adjusted, depending on the amount of bounty hunters that did proper work. Unless you adjust it, you end up with someone getting 10k USD for a lousy article and that is just wrong, imho.





Coin teams need to pay more attention to the quality of work that precedes the bounty manager's reputation if they want to avoid issues like this.
Those altcoin teams obviously have no clue about bounty campaigns, since they are willing to allocate such a huge amount for bounty campaign. Bounty managers probably promise them thousands of quality bounty hunters and that's how they persuade them to allocate unrealistically high amount.
4562  Economy / Services / Re: [Open][Signature] Non Fungible Defi (NFD) Full Member To Legendary/ Paid in BTC on: June 06, 2021, 06:04:48 AM
are payment funds escrowed?
Yes payment  funds escrowed. No worrys for payment. Thank you
Who is holding the fund?
Fund Holding in my Wallet. Team send to me USDT. It will be convert to BTC and i will Post escrow wallet here
I don't think that you understand the meaning of the word "escrowed". If funds were escrowed, that means trusted 3rt party would hold the funds, neither you or your client. It would be good if you can share signed message with those BTC funds that you claim to have, given your shaky reputation here.

Another thing, since you said that you received USDT yet signatrue will be paid in BTC; what will happen if BTC suddenly starts pumping and goes up 20-30%? Who will cover the difference as USDT you were given in that case won't cover the expense of the bounty campaign.
4563  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 🕵️‍♂️Student Coin Team are Scammers in Disguise, Refused Paying Hunters Reward on: June 05, 2021, 07:53:21 PM
To be fair, "Dave" here doesn't think. I'm pretty sure the wall of text was copied from some telegram thingy or wherever BountyDetective AKA Vispilio posted that shit.
Hah yeah, you are probably right. It still baffles me how bounty hunters (and Dave here is not an exception but a rule, I saw that before ) think that they are somehow crucial for  altcoin project's success while in reality their reach is almost non existent. I can't imagine anyone reading some poorly written Medium article and then deciding to invest.
4564  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 🕵️‍♂️Student Coin Team are Scammers in Disguise, Refused Paying Hunters Reward on: June 05, 2021, 07:15:38 PM
Bounty Detectives promoters diligently engaged in this exercise and raised $70 million for the Student Coin Company, again the promoters’ efforts attracted more than Twenty Eight Thousand Community members to the Student Coin Community group. These members were investors.
C'mon man, you really think that because of bounty hunters activity Student Coin managed to raise $70 million? Out of curiosity, I decided to check your Twitter and work that you done for Student Coin Bounty, so here are few examples of your tweets:
https://twitter.com/okocha_chika?s=08



Your whole Twitter history consists of similar tweets; few tags and link of the original tweet. Despite having more than 10,000 followers, the only likes you were getting for these tweets are your own (LOL), so what kind of reach are we talking about here? No one liked/retweeted/commented on your tweets, yet you claim that bounty hunters like you had  main role in Student Coin raising $70M. For that work you were supposed to get ~64,000 tokens that are currently worth ~$960. Insane amount of money for such subpar work and non existent reach.

For that amount of money (200 million STC currently worth $3M) Student Coin could have hired some top tier Twitter/YouTube influencers and pay for professionals writers with the real reach, so no wonder that when they saw the work, they dramatically reduced the bounty pool.

Don't get me wrong, it sucks that bounty hunters keep getting scammed over and over again, but you should really consider some due diligence before joining bounty campaign. You see campaign with inflated bounty pool like in this case? Instant red flag, as simple as that!
4565  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk Merit Dashboard on: June 05, 2021, 12:34:59 PM
fillippone's record (which is the overall record too) is much higher than that.
fillippone received merit in 413 consecutive days. From January 27, 2020 to March 14, 2021.
Thanks for explanation. Since he wrote "my new record" I thought that 52 days was his personal best, which is already impressive, but the real one is completely insane lol.


You can check list of users with big number of merit streaks on "Received Merit Streak" tab.
Hah, I've checked Merit Dashboard so many times and yet I never checked that tab before. Found myself there as well, my personal record of 19 consecutive days looks pretty measly Cheesy



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It’s not the greatest historical weekly fall in relative terms (it dropped 74,24% on the week ranging from the 25/11/2019 .. 01/12/2019 – that was after the 10th Anniversary art contest concluded). The 2.888 distributed merits last week is nevertheless a weekly ATL in absolute terms.
I see, thanks. Well, that fall after 10th anniversary art contest was kinda expected, so yeah, looking forward to other member's merit data before I finish that monthly overview.
4566  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk Merit Dashboard on: June 05, 2021, 08:59:19 AM
Aggregate awarded sMerit for the last complete week (24/05/2021 .. 30/05/2021) is 2.888, which is down 33,64% from the previous week.
-> This mark is an ATL, so I'm wondering if my data is completely correct (it seems so, but I'll wait for other compiled stats by other forum members this week-end to contrast against).
This is some serious drop! Out of curiosity, what was the previously biggest weekly drop, was it anywhere close to this one, or difference between is so big that makes you doubt your numbers?

Anyway, good to see that despite this weekly drop, last month wasn't the new all time low (that record holds April 2021 with 15551 merit shared) but looking at monthly amount of merit shared, trend is obvious so I hope that theymos reconsiders either introducing new merit sources, or readjust the monthly merit allocation to the existing ones.


I saw my new record of 52 consecutive days with merit. But I am now almost back to the starting point.
This is hard!

Damn that's some crazy feat, kudos! By the way, is that the forum record or your personal?
4567  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk Party - Discord server on: June 04, 2021, 03:58:31 PM
I think the winner should be posted here too, so people can see what they are missing from the discord server.
True, no one announced winners here, so let me share then.

Like the last year, Nionio ( I don't know his bitcointalk username) and I shared the first prize of 0.01 BTC. A a reminder, here are the winning pizzas; on the top you can see his pizza shaped as a BTC sign, and on the right side is mine.





Thanks @Cyrus once again for organizing this, and hopefully more people will join next year. I am especially looking forward to our Italian members joining the contest!

4568  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi Statue in Hungary on: June 04, 2021, 06:51:29 AM
And since we're having the Satoshi topic, it's just mandatory that I'd post this:


No matter how many times I see this, it always makes me chuckle  Cheesy


It seems like Hungarian is really a crypto lover and I like the idea that they have created a statue of Satoshi Nakamoto, it just means that Satoshi Nakamoto is a really important person in Hungary because they have created his statue
I wouldn't say that Satoshi is important person in Hungary just because few guys decided to put the statue, but rather than he is important to those guys who organized this.


It seems like Hungarian is really a crypto lover and I like the idea that they have created a statue of Satoshi Nakamoto, it just means that Satoshi Nakamoto is a really important person in Hungary
You know that Nick Szabo who is living in Unites States has Hungarian origin and he is probably most famous Bitcoiner but I am sure there are more of them who are not publicly known.
Not only him, but the famous Bitcoin pizza guy Laszlo Hanyecz is also Hungarian Wink

4569  Other / Meta / Re: An Alternative to Merit on: June 03, 2021, 02:57:11 PM

This proposed "like" might likely not be used by admins, or neither shall it determine ranking, but it should just be a mere appreciation for a quality post when merit is lacking.
What about "dislike"? I mean, if you want to have "like", why not to have dislike too, seeing so much bs being written all over the place. I know that de-meriting was proposed too, but that would probably be too drastic, but dislike would be nice addition, especially if post that gets enough dislikes get hidden, so something similar to reddit.
4570  Other / Archival / Re: The community created a petition: Elon Musk, sell your bitcoin on: June 03, 2021, 02:46:40 PM
Lol what a cringe, "community" creating petition for someone to sell his bitcoin. What a bunch of woosies and crybabies. Those were probably celebrating the loudest when at first Elon promoted bitcoin and now they changed the tune. Ffs, just stop giving him all that attention  and sooner or later he will stop with his bullshit.
4571  Other / Meta / Re: How to stop wallet shilling? on: June 03, 2021, 10:23:55 AM
but I had a hunch that there was something off with the way those two keep finding reasons to mention that particular wallet. It just doesn't seem natural.
Yep. It's one thing when you see someone mentioning Metamask or MEW, two widely used wallets, and OWNR is complete opposite. I honestly don't know anyone that trued using it, and if it weren't for signature campaign I would probably never heard about it.


It looks like they managed to stay under the radar for quite some time because of the way they were doing it.They are not necrobumping threads or posting out of context like many spammers do. The threads they are posting in are about software wallets, suggestions and recommendations, places to buy and store coins, and things like that. At first glance, it seems like everything is ok, until you realize they are doing it regularly, but not too much to arouse suspicion.
They didn't mindlessly  spammed either forum or their threads, making it much harder to notice them. So yeah, this thread bumping and prmotion is level above classical shitposters that are doing this kind of thing.

Beside them, I think that there is a group of high ranking accounts doing the same thing but on much higher level. The only problem is that they are doing pretty good job making it really hard to connect the accounts and certain threads where they are active.
4572  Other / Meta / Re: How to stop wallet shilling? on: June 03, 2021, 08:24:54 AM
As someone employed by OWNR for writing I highly doubt they would pay people to shitpost on bitcointalk about their wallet.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Two accounts that have been asleep for a long time wake up to tell the Bitcointalk community over and over again how good ROWN wallet is? I seriously doubt that.
As a matter of fact, those are not the only two newbie accounts that are promoting OWNR either in other threads, or bumping their own. If you check Visa cards affiliate program from OWNR  you can find more newbie accounts with the same M.O:  waking up after the break and going straight to OWNR wallet thread.

Few examples:
icewitch0612 wakes up after 6 months break just to leave this comment
Your crypto card is not much different from other cards right now, but it's not bad. I hope you will continue to develop this direction.

achach comes back after big break, and goes to some thread to promote OWNR
I'd rather not do that. I keep my funds on Ownr and can buy major cryptocurrencies via Bitfinex. No problem.

And then one month later goes to before mentioned thread and answers to icewitch0612. Coincidence? I think not.
Your crypto card is not much different from other cards right now, but it's not bad. I hope you will continue to develop this direction.

It seems to me that their card is now quite developed, and performs all the declared functions.


LincolnMikkel wakes up after  a year long break just to leave this in OWNR thread
Speaking of reward system is it possible to receive those rewards in any kind of crypto such as assets already supported by your wallet or not?

nguyenvl159 does the same thing, after 5-6 months break, he visits OWNR
Now, when there is competition in crypto cards it is necessary to offer the user more favorable conditions. So lowering fees is the only sure way.

christhemaner doing exactly the same thing
Reducing the price of ordering cards makes this offer better. It seems that after some time, such services can get a large audience.

Then comes yet another newbie kecha1, again same M.O.
What about your cooperation with Bitfinex? Should we expect any news about this?

Then there is a one month break, and next round of newbies doing the same thing

I hope such cards will become commonplace for us in the future. The price is a bit high but I think it's just a matter of time. When such a service becomes more common the price will decrease.

I hope that such cards will become a common thing in the future. This should make using crypto much more convenient.

You are working in the right direction. Feesin were high and this could discourage the acquisition of new users.


To much coincidence for my taste, it looks like classic thread bumping. Same thing can be found in their main thread OWNR wallet. Buy, exchange and store crypto. Order Visa prepaid card, in which majority of the accounts i mentioned also wrote.



So yeah, I think that you are onto something @Pmalek, this is not just some random users of OWNR talking casually about it, this looks like a paid campaign.
4573  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: June 02, 2021, 10:12:27 AM
Na koji si način skužio da prodaš EOS na vrjeme?
Ma nisam ja to uopce tempirao ili nesto pratio, nego mi je dopizidilo svakodnevno pratiti cijene tih shitcoina da izadjem na vrijeme pa sam odlucio rasprodati sve sto mislim da dugorocno nece imati smisla, tako da mi je ostao samo BTC i ETH. Nakon toga sam obrisao Blockfolio sa moba i prebacio se u HODL mode.

Moj savjet: vadi pomalo profit, nemoj cekati neke imaginarne brojke pa sve utopit odjednom, jer to je cista kocka.
4574  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: June 02, 2021, 09:54:03 AM

Dali su to bili altcoini poputa Cardana, Zil, Polkadot i sličnih danas koji imaju neku perspektivu, pa se je ispostavilo da nemaju nakraju, ili su bili neki shitcoini?
I popularni altcoini su imali perspektivu samo na papiru (neki bi rekli da je i Cardano primjer toga), skupili milijarde dolara u ICOu i nakraju neslavno propali. Dobar primjer toga je EOS koji je 2018 bio jako popularan, nazivan "ETH killerom" i sta sve ne. Sjecam se da sam ga nekad 2019 prodao za ETH sa gubitkom od 50%, sto se ispostavilo kao odlicna odluka jer je u medjuvremenu pao sa 0.025 ETH na 0.0025. Onomad sam za 200 EOSa dobio cca 5 ETH, a danas ta kolicina EOSa vrijedi 0.5 ETH.

HODL nije uvijek najbolja opcija, nekad treba pregristi i uzeti loss. Ja sam to napravio 2019, sve altove prebacio uglavnom u BTC i nesto u ETH te se ispostavilo kao super odluka. Da sam cekao, imao bi danas dosta manje kripta.
4575  Other / Meta / Re: How to stop wallet shilling? on: June 02, 2021, 09:19:13 AM
Reporting those posts should do the trick imho, if you haven't tried so far.

edit: Just looking at their post history and it doesn't look like a big issue to me, as they are not that active at all. Unless there were way more posts and you reported them so they are removed already.
4576  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: sportsbet.io BIG SCAMM on: June 01, 2021, 09:12:38 PM
Yes , I can approve to everyone photos of my emails, how much emails I sent to them, and they ignore and dont wish unlock my account.

SCAMMER NO.2  = sportsbet.io
SCAMMER NO.1 =  1xbit/1xbet/melbet/22bet/betwinner
If you have all the evidence, why don't you share them? Ok, at first you maybe didn't know what's the proper way to make scam accusation thread but others shared you the template which you decided to ignore.

That's stubborn and lazy approach won't get you far,especially when you are accusing someone with a good reputation.
4577  Other / Meta / Re: ban appeal thread on: June 01, 2021, 09:10:11 PM
Nothing has changed so far but it is good to see more posts in this thread so eventually, mods will notice it.
Yes logic says they must face dozens of ban appeals on a daily basis. I made an obvious mistake and the only thing I can do now is to sit down and wait for an answer.
Don't worry, mods probably saw your appeal, but they don't react immediately. Thing is, usual way that people in your situation manage to get their account back is if other members say that you are net positive for this forum, that you somehow contributed. But since you mostly spammed in the gambling section filling post quota, you chances are slim to none.

With that being said, I would personally like to see signature ban being used more often in similar situations and preferably lengthy one, like year or two.
4578  Other / Meta / Re: ban appeal thread on: June 01, 2021, 02:12:21 PM
Maybe you're right, and maybe you're not - because if you remember a case that lasted almost 2 years, then there is some logic that admins & global mods do not make such statements public.
That case is exactly one of the reasons why I think it would be good to get some kind of response, instead waiting for two years to get some feedback, and it doesn't necessarily have to be public. I am pretty sure that majority of people active in that thread (or at least those that were asking for 2nd chance) would agree with this. I guess mods & admins have a good reason why they do it this way instead.


In the concrete case, saying "yes" or "no" at this point is certainly too early, but if we look realistically the chances are very small or none for a positive outcome.
Yep, totally agree on this, OP should exercise more patience as it's only been a week since he started ban appeal.
4579  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Devalued coin scam attempt, newbies please be aware! on: June 01, 2021, 11:16:03 AM
Why would anyone who got an unsolicited message from a stranger on the internet choose to trade with them on an escrow platform they are not familiar with (considering the point of an escrow service is trust)? The only reason I can think of is greed, as it offers an attempt to cash out on the shitcoins they hold in their wallet.
Of course they count on greed, what else. Let's not kid ourselves, vast majority of people that ate into crypto because of they possibility to make some money, and not because they are into all that financial freedom story or the tech part of it. Don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with that, but crypto investors are perfect targets and that's why we see so many scam attempts. And then you add constant influx of new people that are not aware of all the dangers, and you get what we have now.

Rule of thumb: someone sends you unsolicited PM on Telegram=scam.
4580  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin ever become a widely adopted global payment solution? on: June 01, 2021, 11:11:03 AM
I don't mind if Bitcoin never reaches true "mass adoption" and am not waiting for it to become the one-world currency. It's already been successful beyond anyone's imagination.
Couldn't agree more. People often think that 10-12 years is very long period of time and that Bitcoin somehow failed because its use didn't reach mass adoption yet, while in reality this is extremely short period of time for something as complex and I think that not even Satoshi thought that Bitcoin will spread as much as it did.

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