Since the dev isnt communicating with me anymore... He asked me to be the escrow for this project. I agreed but informed him that i would want to have a copy of his ID. As a precaution that is usually done to protect investors. The ID only would be seen by me and only details given out in the case that it turns out to be a scam and someone wants to sue him. I asked back about it but no answer.
Im not sure what that means but since i had the same experience with NOSTRUM some days ago, with even 3 times asking back, i would like to state this here. Maybe theres an easy explaination, but i cant say something about it since dev isnt communicating with me anymore while still writing in the thread.
So in case you want to invest it might be a good idea to wait for an explaination from dev.
As we all know, the Internet is very insecure. I demand escrow, but I do not want someone to take my ID to do some bad things. This is what I consider. I do not deny your service, but I do not agree your requirements:my ID. Thanks for the explaination.
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Since the dev isnt communicating with me anymore... He asked me to be the escrow for this project. I agreed but informed him that i would want to have a copy of his ID. As a precaution that is usually done to protect investors. The ID only would be seen by me and only details given out in the case that it turns out to be a scam and someone wants to sue him. I asked back about it but no answer.
Im not sure what that means but since i had the same experience with NOSTRUM some days ago, with even 3 times asking back, i would like to state this here. Maybe theres an easy explaination, but i cant say something about it since dev isnt communicating with me anymore while still writing in the thread.
So in case you want to invest it might be a good idea to wait for an explaination from dev.
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Guys... i checked the post. I must say im not really following AM anymore sinc nothing seems to change there and i gave up on them long ago. Regarding the bet. I wish you would have been more clear about what the bet is about. Talking rubbish can mean lying, speaking nonsense, dumb things and so on. The examples mabsark gave seems to show that real informations are missing so everything that could be done is guessing about what is going on. (As if it was another way since a long long time.) I cant see why you wanted to make a bet about this because both of you cant proof that the other one is wrong. There are simply no informations. And speculation about AM is around since ages. That means negative and positive spekulations. So guys... since your rules werent clear from the start i cant judge who won/lost. Its part of speculations that you dont know the truth. So negative or positive opinions about AM are fine as long as there are no facts stating something is a lie. When the facts come later then previous wrong speculations would be still only speculations and dont turn to lies. Because the facts were missing. I hope you solve your dispute but in my eyes you fight about nothing. You dont have facts. So i suggest use your time for something you can build on. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Sorry that i cant help.
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Since im the escrow for this trade... i asked him 3 times via pm to send me a copy of his ID. He didnt answer at all. If he would need time i would have awaited an answer saying that but completely ignoring it while still posting in the thread doesnt look like he will provide an ID.
So in case this project is going on... i dont have seen an ID yet.
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This RiverboatBTC who identify him have -4 trust points here also.. RiverBoatBTC verified him actually: Have been approached by OP for verification of identity. He will be sending me a picture of his I.D. one of him holding his I.D. and the picture of his grow op permission slip lol? Not sure what they are called.
Identity Verified, everything looks good. The only thing that came up was a misdemeanor offense for weed 9 years ago in a different state. The OP told me about this and did not try to hide it. The grow op license check out with the municipality, and is able to have 100 plants the limit can be raised for each patient he accepts. He also showed me his wife's caregiver status which allows them to add another 100 plants if they wished to. This is just a Identity Verification and license check that is all. Thank you for you business, it was a pleasure. Good luck on your security. So riverboat was a user who registered on BCT 3 months earlier than this project was presented. I cant see how this was a valid verification. I hope everyone who invested only invested play money. I wont invest anymore anywhere where the identification isnt checked by a really trusted forum member. Recently i dropped the idea investing in kongzi because the owner doesnt want to let him verify by a trusted forum owner. I would have invested more than he already collected though. I think verifying would enable each issuer for the bigger investors. If someone choses not to, or only use service that are so new that they dont have any trust so far, then they stop themselves from that possibility. Its too fishy if someone is doing that. By the way... theres another project cannabit that is working fine and pays good dividends. They have a licence to grow too. I believe the issuer here didnt even have one as far as i remember. Maybe thats why he cant get his hands on a computer. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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I got an answer from him via email: If I am not around I am working hard. Been doing 2 shifts in a row then passing out.
Sent from mobile I think the guy is a workaholic. Though i really think it should be possible to spend 5 minutes to post something in here. I imagine he will get loads of emails and pms. It would be so easy to stop that.
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Too bad he doesn't have any cash. He'll just go through bankruptcy and nobody will ever see a dime.
I believe you cant take fines and such things into a bankruptcy. But im not sure.
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NP - in case you didn't notice already, we got you verified. The letter from your tax office is fine, but not something that our verification team is very familiar with.
Thank you!
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Hi Sebastian - I'm not sure if we can accept this as a proof of residence document, but I'm checking on it now. It may just be that our verification team isn't familiar with this type of document, or it may be that there's some reason I'm not aware of for why we can't accept it. In any case, we'll try to get an answer for you as soon as possible. Thank you!
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Guys... im part of LCSH, the group of users that decided to go after the scammer. Believe virtuals that some good news are there, though dont be too happy yet until a good ending happened. Lets say there is some hope. I guess you might wait some weeks since i believe in some weeks there might be already an update available.
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So how is the status with kraken.com? Everything secure website wise? No hacked exchange soon? The CEO is capable and wont do the Karpeles?
So far im relatively pleased with the function of the website. Only the support isnt pleasing. Im verified tier 2 now and sent all files for tier 3. Support told me to send a bill in. I explained to Donna, the person supporting me, that i dont think i have any bill since i dont buy with getting bills mostly. Instead i had send an official letter from the tax agency of my country. She insisted ony a bill.
So i explained her that a state agency letter is a way stronger proof of residence. No answer till now, i sent 2 emails. I read in the forum and it looks like support sometimes is chosing to not answer tickets.
I demanded to have an superiour check this out but... nothing comes back
So maybe someone from kraken can check things out? My ticket is 32128.
Thanks!
yes, everytime the support does not answer in time, come here and tell Dargo about it to speed things up, so you made everything right You also could send a german "Meldebescheinigung" for address proof. So I don't know why a tax agency letter does not work. I think the support girl simply is unsure if she can accept it. But if that would be the case then i would await that things move forward another way, with his superiour or something like that. Lets see if a person in charge notice things now. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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So how is the status with kraken.com? Everything secure website wise? No hacked exchange soon? The CEO is capable and wont do the Karpeles?
So far im relatively pleased with the function of the website. Only the support isnt pleasing. Im verified tier 2 now and sent all files for tier 3. Support told me to send a bill in. I explained to Donna, the person supporting me, that i dont think i have any bill since i dont buy with getting bills mostly. Instead i had send an official letter from the tax agency of my country. She insisted ony a bill.
So i explained her that a state agency letter is a way stronger proof of residence. No answer till now, i sent 2 emails. I read in the forum and it looks like support sometimes is chosing to not answer tickets.
I demanded to have an superiour check this out but... nothing comes back
So maybe someone from kraken can check things out? My ticket is 32128.
Thanks!
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Does anyone know a PI who is capable in the online area too? Thanks!
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I wonder if its safe to use an unofficial app of that kind at all. Can the code be reviewed? Im not saying that anyone is planning this but a scammer could create such app, let it run until many are using it and once he has access to many bitcoins or accounts, he sells all fiat and withdraws all coins to its own bitcoin address.
But i would like such app. I only wonder about the additional layer of risk.
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Betting arbitrage? In order to make that work you need a big amount of money on each betting platform. Just to bid on each one and make profit from arbitrage. This type of bet is simply dying out because most betting platforms monitor each other in order to prevent arbitrage. So i dont see how you will manage to profit.
I'm mean it's arbitrage, but nothing close to the traditional betting arbitrage you are referring to. I'm very aware most betting websites monitor each other, but until there is a universal handicapper this ethos will continue to stay viable. With 6 posts it will be hard to get any coin anyway but without explaining what your trick involves it will be impossible i guess.
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Betting arbitrage? In order to make that work you need a big amount of money on each betting platform. Just to bid on each one and make profit from arbitrage. This type of bet is simply dying out because most betting platforms monitor each other in order to prevent arbitrage. So i dont see how you will manage to profit.
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Question about this monthly price. Does it start when the website goes live and the system starts making bets, or do we have to give .05BTC per month even if the system isn't ready?
Quick edit: also, if my math is right (and it may not be since I did this really quickly), if I invest only .05BTC, and the monthly amount distributed to investors is 30BTC as stated in your prospectus I will only be making .03BTC a month, so that's not even break even after fees. In order to break even, 50BTC would have to be distributed. How much BTC do you see being distributed to investors a month?
The investments start at 0.5BTC if i see it correctly. What you speak about is the membership fee. Thats the fee for those people that want to use the websites service. And of course this fee only has to be paid for a working service. So i guess you need to decide if you want to invest in the site or use the service only. By the way... Only 0.03BTC a month for a 0.05BTC Investment would be huge. You realize that this would be 720% annual profit? I doubt the website will reach those numbers easily but youre critizising on a really high level. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Not even the best investments in bitcoin economy, that iam aware of, have profits over 100% yearly. Including discounts on share buys and all. So in the case this website really would get these numbers it would be huge. Realistically i would set on way lower numbers. If the numbers go high depends on if the website gives a real advantage.
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Every wall of text explains how difficult a project your undertaking, but doesn't answer the main question that needs to be answered for you to make money.
Why are you going to do all of that work and not make the bet yourself? If you aren't going to make that bet, why should I make that bet, and why should I pay you for that information if you don't think it's good enough to make the bet yourself?
it just doesn't make sense to me, if you are going to do all that work, you should bet it. If you have a system that will spit out a smart bet for every game and/or submarket, it shouldn't take that long for you to take whatever bankroll you have and turn it into much more money than you'd be able to make selling picks.
You might think about that it isnt so much about the system working wonders but about people wanting to believe in it. It might very well be possible that the predictions are so that, over 100 bets, you have, including losses and wins, a profit at the end. That would be a good outcome already. But there will be single correct predictions all the time too. And those are worth advertising with. At the end i think it will be hard to code a really groundbreaking algo. I think many already tried that. But i see it more as an advanced gambling site. People went to justdice because they thought they can win. Even though they knew they most probably will lose. Nothing different to this project. People will believe that they will have an advantage. They will see the correct listed and what they could have won with it. And if it works they really will have an advantage, making them returnin customers. But until its at that status they come because they want to believe in the correct predictions. Nothing more than the greed of gamblers. Gamblers will be there all the time. So its better they give the coins to this project than to some random casino somewhere. Thats what i think about it. I would prefer checking the issuer out carefully though i wont be able to check him out in person. So i plegded the minimum.
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It looks like you search a single investor with a big investment. So at the moment i wont be the one since i dont have spare coins in that range at the moment. I guess the investor would get your real details and could check you out? Together with the domain name and so on? Otherwise i guess you wont find anyone that will give out those coins without some more security.
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I didnt know that betting sites odds are only based on the bets done. I really thought betting sites run complicated statistics together with investigators checking facts. That of course leaves room for optimizations i guess. Since fans are onesidedly fans and dont want to belive the other party will win. So can you say a bit about what factors you will put into your algo? I saw previous results of course. But i imagine handling this will be really really difficult. I see you dont want to stay anonymous. Thats a good thing.
So this has a pyramid scheme/snow ball system built right into it. Nice.
Where do you see that?
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