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4581  Economy / Securities / Re: The reasons why Bitcoin securities can’t be regulated by the SEC on: October 08, 2012, 12:43:54 PM
You werent talking about the Romanian backwoods 6 heads "government" you are talking about the SEC and a country that has a military that is larger than the next 10 combined. Untill you can show us where MP has taken on the SEC and/or the US Attorney General or the supreme court please gtfo. Also satoshidice is an unregulated security issued by a US citizen who is easy to find.

Not that I agree with what the SEC does but the outcome is inevitable. If you think Im bullshitting MP should fly to the US and see what happens  Tongue

You don't get to set any goalposts for Mr. P 'till at the very least you're done reimbursing the poor suckers that your company has defrauded.

What company ? I dunno what youre talking about  Kiss

Well, "company". Global Scam Exchange.
4582  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MtGox - withdrawal issues coming back? on: October 08, 2012, 12:31:43 PM
There has been [for awhile] a fairly reasonable service from MtGox lately as far as withdrawals were going. Is it going back to trouble mode? I have week worth of withdrawals, all don't move. There's a single >3K withdrawal which says "error" and never made it to dwolla. Tried opening ticket at MtGox support with no resolution so far. Anyone else experiencing same problems as I do?

This is pretty wow. Wasn't MtGox supposed to be making money? Are they actually running a fractional reserve operation now?
4583  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 08, 2012, 12:30:53 PM
I've decided Nefario will get a scammer tag for this.

Thank you.

Lmao did you ask your forum's moderator to give you a scammer tag too, for that little "selling on undisclosed insider knowledge" affair? Or is it the case that since nobody was sucker enough to buy your worthless interest in that worthless scamenterprise of yours, bitcoin.me's and others', it's all candy and rosewater?
4584  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 08, 2012, 03:27:19 AM

 If the SEC ... really shows up the people they go after will end up in jail.


I can promise you one thing: If the SEC does indeed "show up" they will not be sending anyone to jail.

He would know:

Who is in your counsel and what credentials do they hold?

As Internet Lawyers and Internet Attorneys, Random Internet Asshat Galambo Internet Law specializes in protecting small, medium and large businesses on internet law issues related to online defamation, copyright infringement, internet and online trademark infringement, software trade secret theft and other internet law issues. When you need a real internet lawyer, talk to us first then compare the rest. Chances are we have already represented a client like you on an issue like yours.

If you have an internet law question, whether it involves website agreements, affiliate marketing, selling counterfeit unregisterd (and unexempted) online securities, online contract drafting or negotiation, copyright infringement, internet defamation of character, domain name disputes, hacking or unauthorized access, trade secret theft, trademark infringement or other issue arising on the world wide web, contact us today.

Founding Partner Random Internet Asshat Galambo began practicing law yesterday when he wrote a blog post about the internet and has been specializing in internet law ever since! As an intellectual property lawyer who understands the internet, Mr. Random Internet Asshat Galambo has been featured in articles and interviews ranging from his own blog to Bitcointalk.org. Random Internet Asshat Galambo Internet Law is large enough to handle complex litigation against the largest law firms, but nimble enough to offer innovative approaches to solving legal issues.

Retard level firmly in the carmine.
4585  Economy / Goods / Re: Public Contract between Heruspex and Myself on: October 08, 2012, 03:10:56 AM
You two need to learn to gpg sign.
4586  Economy / Services / Re: Sponsored tweets via @wiki @holy @http @agency @locally @recordings @ffffound on: October 08, 2012, 03:10:26 AM
Sadly the value of a "thousands" of followers twitter account is ~0. This would be an example. If you have anything with 1mn+ we'd be maybe interested to hear.
4587  Economy / Securities / Re: A bitcoin pink sheets market is possible. on: October 08, 2012, 03:09:21 AM
I have explained the following numerous times in various places so here is how a bitcoin "stock market" can fit within the legal system.

A bitcoin pink sheets market is possible where a registered broker  can sell to the public. Unregistered companies can't however sell their shares directly to the public.

http://www.sec.gov/divisions/marketreg/mrotc.shtml

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Most issuers do not meet the minimum listing requirements for trading on a national securities exchange. Many of these companies do not file periodic reports or audited financial statements with the SEC

Its not the fact glbse listed unregulated companies its the fact they didnt use a registered financial broker to sell them to people.

 GLBSE could in fact register as a legal entity then have a broker to sell the companies.

Whether this is viable is another thing wrt finding an existing broker. You may also need a broker in each different country you operate in.

The other option is for a bitcoin company to list on the existing pink sheets market however you probably wont be able to buy the shares with bitcoin or receive bitcoin dividends unless a broker sets up some system to do so.

Other than being one of the people that perpetuated the GLBSE fraud, what exact qualifications back this indubitably correct and well thought out plan you propose (in the sense all the other things you people did were correct and well thought out, of course)?
4588  Economy / Securities / Re: The reasons why Bitcoin securities can’t be regulated by the SEC on: October 08, 2012, 01:48:00 AM
You werent talking about the Romanian backwoods 6 heads "government" you are talking about the SEC and a country that has a military that is larger than the next 10 combined. Untill you can show us where MP has taken on the SEC and/or the US Attorney General or the supreme court please gtfo. Also satoshidice is an unregulated security issued by a US citizen who is easy to find.

Not that I agree with what the SEC does but the outcome is inevitable. If you think Im bullshitting MP should fly to the US and see what happens  Tongue

You don't get to set any goalposts for Mr. P 'till at the very least you're done reimbursing the poor suckers that your company has defrauded.
4589  Economy / Securities / Re: The reasons why Bitcoin securities can’t be regulated by the SEC on: October 08, 2012, 12:59:00 AM
Who is in your counsel and what credentials do they hold?

Pretty much none of your business on the first score.

No kidding. I sure wouldn't want my real name or professional reputation associated with the nonsensical garbage presented as legal reasoning in the linked article.

You can get much better than that from a first-year law student at a bottom-tier law school. If you paid anything for that steaming pile of intellectually dishonest crap you should ask for your money back.

I don't think the author even read the district court opinion they cited - if they did, they should find a new line of work.

If you have anything substantial to say, it belongs in the comments section of the reference.

Who is in your counsel and what credentials do they hold?

As Internet Lawyers and Internet Attorneys, Mircea Popescu Internet Law specializes in protecting small, medium and large businesses on internet law issues related to online defamation, copyright infringement, internet and online trademark infringement, software trade secret theft and other internet law issues. When you need a real internet lawyer, talk to us first then compare the rest. Chances are we have already represented a client like you on an issue like yours.

http://polimedia.us is a website operated by Mircea Popescu, PLC DBA Mircea Popescu Internet Law. If you have an internet law question, whether it involves website agreements, affiliate marketing, selling counterfeit unregisterd (and unexempted) online securities, online contract drafting or negotiation, copyright infringement, internet defamation of character, domain name disputes, hacking or unauthorized access, trade secret theft, trademark infringement or other issue arising on the world wide web, contact us today.

Founding Partner Mircea Popescu began practicing law yesterday when he wrote a blog post about the internet and has been specializing in internet law ever since! As an intellectual property lawyer who understands the internet, Mr. Mircea Popescu has been featured in articles and interviews ranging from his own blog to Bitcointalk.org. Mircea Popescu Internet Law is large enough to handle complex litigation against the largest law firms, but nimble enough to offer innovative approaches to solving legal issues.

Oh I dunno, just some guy with a provable track record of suing the gov't and winning. Go cook some crow, smartypants.
4590  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Let's have a little fun then, shall we. on: October 08, 2012, 12:56:55 AM
This thread has taught me how cheaply people will sell out. I honestly don't think I had anything to say about MPEx, positively, or negatively, but isn't it kind of in bad taste to be so brazenly enjoying the fact that GLBSE is down? Sure, its your competition, but you are kind of rubbing it into the people who may have lost their asses using GLBSE. Nefario did his fair share of pissing me off, mostly with the goat ordeal, but I think it kind of hurts your case that you are not a jerk when doing these "publicity stunts". I don't pay too much attention to what people say about others, until I witness it myself, but over the last day or so, I've gone a bit left of impartial towards you.

Just telling it as I see it, I'm not trying to get personal or anything, but you may want to rethink some of these sorts of things, or at the very least, change your timing a bit, as I'm sure if someone that may have lost a decent sum of money came in here, they will be more offended than feeling ready to support MPEx.

but, for the record, I lost no money in the GLBSE closing, as I cashed out during the Goat ordeal.

Far as I can see, I'm discussing the SEC. What exactly do you think the relation is with GLBSE?

@ MPOE-PR - It would be pleasing if you could change the text to something that doesn't flaunt in front of the SEC.  If your really about the Bitcoin community, you will understand why I am making this request.  Do we really want more resources and people with a "chip on their shoulders" to push down harder?

No. That is exactly the point. We really care about the bitcoin community, and we really don't care for people masquerading that they care while really trying their darndest to sap it. Bitcoin is all about "fuck you, governments". And yes, I do. I want all of them with chips on their shoulders larger than their helmets pushing down as hard as they can.

Well. BTC is just cryptocash. It doesn't care about anything Wink

And FWIW, when someone predicts (generally) an outcome of a competitor's unsound business practices, and the prediction is later found to be correct, the predictor is often motivated  to tout the business practices that he uses that are superior to the (failed) competitor.

I have been a supporter of MPEx for precisely the reason that we see before us. I'm not concerned about my holdings, as Mircea has an apparently significant financial motivation to remain honest, and continue to grow the exchange. I am of the opinion that the practices that differentiate MPEx from the late GLBSE are highly worth touting, especially given that the practices followed by GLBSE have caused its demise, and likely, significant grief and losses for investors.

In most cases, we find that dramatic changes in technology take some significant time before proper laws are written to support it. I expect that time to be fairly long with bitcoin...it took a long time with the commercial Internet, and each big technology it's spawned.

I'd like to be able to invest safely and securely while that process takes place. I'm happy to take risk on the companies I invest in, but I'm not as willing to take on the risk of government confiscation of any of my assets, be they bitcoin, altcoin, stocks, bonds, investment contracts, "bank" accounts, or what ever.....It does seem that bitcoin offers the basis for technologies that can end the needs for government. If we can figure out how to manage money without it, we can manage everything without it, IMO.

Oh, and send munneh to my OTC addy please: 1GUruvanCg4gS62XCeD9VbCzJhT1cyn2a3

Cheers.

The point about the commercial internet needs to be revisited, I think. Where were the idiots going "oh, men in black will kidnap you" back when Amazon made its Barnes & Noble killer? Oh, that's right, they weren't allowed on the Internet yet and so people went ahead and built things that changed the world. For the better. They're all rich now.

People should be less fucking afraid and less fucking submissive, the government (any government!) is nothing but that rag you clean your shoes on. Existing for the five minutes of a day it does its job, thrown out the second it becomes smelly.

If the government is in our way, the government bows away.

Can you grandfather those of us that had expressed interest?  I wanted to create a new send address, but don't have access to my wallet where I am.  Sad

Okay. Hurry up.


4591  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: MPEx registration fee bumped to 30 BTC. on: October 08, 2012, 12:20:58 AM
George Soros, can not be related to bitcoin in any way if so please point out how....

Well firstly, we weren't discussing bitcoin. You were yakking about "pissing off the gubermint". Soros' been a fugitive from US justice for what, 20 years now? 30? Just because wikipedia doesn't tell you things you shouldn't know doesn't mean they don't exist. (Tax fraud).

And since we're naming names, Roman Polanski might work too, tho he wasn't either rich or important enough to really matter in this discussion. Oh, and that wikileaks guy is still giving your wanna-be "gov't of whole world" the finger.

Wake up and smell the coffee. It's a big world and it mostly doesn't give a bacon wrapped shit about the US. Every highschool has this retarded kid who thinks he "dominates" or w/e. Usually twenty years later he's the janitor working some highway gas station.
4592  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 07, 2012, 11:51:04 PM
For example, if I had a host who happened to be on the same server as 4chan, I would move my site especially if I was personally acquainted with the owner like you.

There is a difference between allowing unhindered freedom of speech on a site/image board/forum, but even criminals in maximum security prisons hate child molesters and you have willingly associated yourself with someone who supports them. You say there is none on the server? The reason no one wants to check is because sites of that style attract pedophiles like flies since they have no chance of being caught. I would suggest you move your defense to its own thread, no one is going to check your story and neither will I, the server is a cesspool and I like many others would not want to be apart of it even if it is only somewhat true.

At this point, the less you say the less you look like an idiot. Carry on to your heart's content; I won't be seeing your output from this point forward.


There's no reason at this point to believe that users won't get their funds returned.  There might be open conflict between the shareholders, but no-one's suggested that GLBSE has insufficient funds at this point to pay its users.

I'll suggest it.

This is a by-the-book Interscamgro/Bitcoin Consultancy operation. This is how people like Taaki, Strateman, McCarthy & Co scam this community: create fake drama, multiple parties, lost databases, "waiting for X to start repaying" etc. Any person holding BTC on the Global Scam Exchange will be seeing his money back about six months after those scammed by Bitcoinica do.

It's what it is. Don't ever get involved with any of these people again.
4593  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: MPEx registration fee bumped to 30 BTC. on: October 07, 2012, 07:59:22 PM
Peeps, just please stop repeating this cliche.

Conglomerate domains have their tactical uses, in this case as probably as a anti-filtering and anti-takedown measure. I don't have a specific knowledge about polimedia.us and Romania; but a conglomerate domain that would host a bitcoin securities exchange and a financial news site would have a very good prior restraint defense against stupid takedowns.

In Europe this tactic worked for the users of LiveJournal and many other traditional publishers.

This "dedicated domain name" really is a cheapo marketing shibboleth. If you don't believe me, read the post of the local hit&run marketing expert: reeses. Of course I have to quote it in full, since reeses always doing the purge of his posts before he runs.

Whoa, you should get a prize or something. The sheepsies in clown costumes running around here have been struggling with this for what, a month now? Two?

Anyone here heard of Marc Emery... Never came to the U.S. but is in us prison or how about Manuel Antonio Noriega just some people that never set foot in the U.S. but pissed off the gov. They think they are free and clear thanks to a legal team... U.S VS YOU  The U.S. bank roll = everlasting compared to MPEx = small I am sure lol

You ever heard of George Soros?
4594  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: MPEx registration fee bumped to 30 BTC. on: October 07, 2012, 07:43:10 PM
Alternatively you could get a Grizzly Bear in an SS uniform, that'd be a slight step up from the current PR rep.

Bitcoin macht frei!
4595  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: MPEx registration fee bumped to 30 BTC. on: October 07, 2012, 07:26:14 PM
The PR person is horrible, they are not what you would want coming from a business. The site is horrible to look at and I can not understand it. How am I supposed to move my Security there? Ltc global is way better, and I do not even own lite coins lol.

What makes you think that you have "a security" or you'd be even remotely considered? Seriously now...
4596  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 07, 2012, 07:15:14 PM
You do however constantly ignore questions about the pron that is hosted on the domain that is beyond forgiveness. Why would you even be willing to work with a company that hosts child porn. Its disgusting, and I doubt you will even respond to this post.

I would count that as withholding your relationship.

I ignore a lot of stupid shit. A bunch of forum retards repeating stupid shit doesn't make it any less stupid.
4597  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 07, 2012, 04:07:50 PM
Just gather some private investment and dont allow public trading of the shares. Thats how the company that runs glbse itself functions.

Nice to see you were shitting all over MPEx while being secretly involved with the Global Scam Exchange, you despicable shill you.

Yeah pot WTF WHY YOU SO BLACK, Kettles like me would never be that black.

You're a little confused, aren't you.

The guy was withholding his relationship while making false claims about MPEx. Just like that MrBiggs failpiece. I was never withholding my relationship while making factual claims about GLBSE.
4598  Economy / Goods / Re: Hand made chainmail Vests *Jewelry coming soon* on: October 07, 2012, 03:49:47 PM
I will do handmade chainmail shirts for $200  $125 in current mtgox last price in BTC + Shipping (USPS flat rate boxes ftw)





Coifs will be $75 USD

pics will come soon reply if interested these are hand made I want to see if anyone is interested.

Cheers

Maidak

Do you make chastity belts too (it's for a friend)?
4599  Economy / Services / Re: Will video record myself telling city folks whatever you tell me to on: October 07, 2012, 03:48:14 PM
Awwww. Come on come on.  Grin
4600  Economy / Securities / Re: How to get BTC back from GLBSCAM ? on: October 07, 2012, 03:47:18 PM
Hello,

Before I started to buy any shares/bonds I sent over BTC to my GLBSE Account coming from my investors. Basically I just sent over a great amount of BTC and wanted to start. Just one day later it went offline. The website now has a message but no contact information. So my BTC investment has been stolen.

So ..

1) What is the process to request a BTC refund ? Means what do I have to send to where to get my BTC back ?

2) What real world data is available about this idiot called Nefario ? Youtube gives me his face but no location. Where is this man ? And who else is responsible for this ? Similar to the Pirate topic regarding family contact information my investors will apply legal and cultural laws of my country to fix this situation.

To loose your investment doesn't mean you have no funds left to recover it.

Увидимся.

PM's with helpful information may be rewarded.

Unfortunately there's not very much you can do at this point.
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