I am a realist. The glass is not half empty nor half full. It is completely full. Half air, half with water.

I edited it for you. 

I have read that the exodus story has a puzzle in it. There is no evidence of any kind of migration at the time outlined in the bible. It is normally interpreted as a reference to an earlier migration or a later one that was added to the bible. It also could be borrowed from another culture like so many bible stories. Or possibly related to a very small migration that left no other records. My guess is that the story is related to some kind of exodus from Egyptian slavery. But it could have been centuries earlier than bible writers thought.

Unfortunately, when the Romans wrote the bible they threw out the majority of bible stories. Anything that contradicted Roman law and sensibilities was edited out. With only a few official Roman scraps to go on we may never know the whole story.

I'm not sure why they would wait for a certain price, unless they are trying to corelate that with how broadly BTC is accepted? It would be a mistake if that were the case. For example, far less places took bitcoin when it was valued by the market at $1000.
If their paradigm is one of stock investing then maybe they are confused. If a stock offering falls to a low price then the capitol the issuer was counting on is not present and the company could go bankrupt. At that point the stock value could fall to zero and become worthless. Bitcoin does not need your money and it woked just fine when bitcoins were $0.50. It also worked fine at $100, $35, or $823. As long as me and one other person is using it, it can at least opperate.

Same here. And that was not the only extreme crash we have seen. Each time people loudly and confidently pronounced bitcoin dead. when OI hear that I know it means the person does not understand bitcoin. They treat it like a stock or a bond. Bitcoin is nothing like that and does not require any threshold value to operate.

Is it still the fastest, safest, and cheapest way to send money? Yes? Then we are all good.

I have no problem with Islam. I am not a believer, but Vishnu, Allah, Jesus; they are all the same to me. It's just people and their ideas.

The funny thing is that there has NEVER been so much adoption of bitcoin or more planning for the future of bitcoin. I don't pay attention to the price, the indicator that matters is how pervasive it's use has become. These are the best days I have seen since 2011.

On Point, the NPR radio show is discussing mobile payments. Give them a call and let them know that Apple pay is not the big story!

1-800-423-8255

Or tweet @onpointradio

UPDATE: They are on-board. I am going to be their first customer and help them set up. Likely they will be using Tony's BitPay system. Although, today's news about PayPal may be another option for them.
Anyone who wants guns for bitcoin may want to check them out. They have a brick and mortar store in Deerfield Wisconsin, and can get about any gun you want.   

I thought you guys were going to like this. 

I know some "whales". They don't avoid anything that can turn a buck.

Maybe they just don't want to go home? I know I wouldn't. 

I am working with a local gun shop that is considering accepting bitcoin. I used to buy my guns from them but now I buy online for BTC and have them do the FFL transfer. this has gotten them very interested in these bitcoin things.
When I meet with them I would love to tell them that I know people are interested in this, and that they may find customers who otherwise would never have bought from them. So, is it true that you guys are interested in online or in-person sales of guns from a regular gun shop?

If you want to help the effort you could also send them an email or call and let them know. The place is: http://www.deerfieldpistol.com

Cheers

What I have learned from this thread is that Wilikon and like two other guys hate feminists and environmentalists. Everyone else loves them. 

I would not last a week in Iran. lol

I wonder how much decline is related to speculators realizing that their hope of becoming millionaires by December is unrealistic? Whatever, when we find the bottom we may have a better valuation based on bitcoins usefulness.  Unless you fancy yourself as an "investor", the price should not matter much.

I agree, although those troops are going to have a rough job. It's not clear what they will be in charge of. I doubt, for example, that they will be commanding the Chinese soldiers who just arrived there. The problem on the ground now is a lack of coordination between countries, NGOs, armies, hospitals. What a mess.

P.S. the good news is that this is not much of a threat in the U.S. and Europe. Our infectious disease surveillance is effective at finding vector cases and isolating any contacts. Its Africa that is going to pay the price.

You have to get into the minds of the villagers to understand. They have absolutely no trust in government and fear being dragged away to some camp. The camps are seen as dying places where the interned are caged and sometimes starved. Civil order is beginning to break down in the hot zone and it's only going to get worse. The latest figure look awful. Something like 200K cases by December. We have already moved too slowly, containment has been lost and it's chaos on the ground among the NGOs. Just wait till it goes exponential in Lagos.  

Still, at the beginning of the year I never met people who had heard of bitcoin. Now most people I mention it to have at least heard of it. I think the collapse of speculation is a great development if it's happening. Let's hope it goes all the way down to a utility support level. Something that matches the value of people who actually use bitcoin rather than buy and hold. Hoarding does not really strengthen the market especially when all one is doing is swapping fiat and BTC back and forth.