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4581  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why almost everybody suggest to hold? on: February 13, 2018, 01:19:41 PM
It is logical. Those that hold their coin control the market price of that coin! If everyone that hold a coin sell their coin, there will be zero price for such coin. Apart from the fact that holder control the price, there us also a need for stability of coin price when is in it's developmental stage!


Lol interestingly, most people that advised you to hold don't hold themselves and give it to panic especially when the price dips below what they're expecting. People said hold when price went 15k, hold when it went 12k and then 10k but then sold when it plunged to 8 or 7k. Cheesy
4582  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading by follow signals. Is it good? on: February 13, 2018, 01:02:00 PM
You are told to pay monthly fees ,, but if you lose they are ready to replace or not?
Many groups give free signals, why you should pay.But in trading better use its own analysis.
That's the point when the tips didn't came to reality and your holdings being trapped, they won't pay you back instead they will just let you hold until the price will fall more, I'm sure this paid tipsters are very well trained in terms of risk, they make some but gain a lot, they move the coins then provide it to their group the earlier you bought the safer you can have, and the earlier you sell the surer you can earn, you can find a lots of free tipster inside telegram just make your own assessment before following them.
I think that everyone should make their assessment of what is happening and understand that only personal market research needs to be taken into account, because other people's advice and forecasts can be far from reality.

Base on my experience, as I am following others signals on telegram, some are quite ok but some are just for their personal profit. After I bought base on their signals, i am too late already as it dive heavily. I feel that they give signals so that they can sell and exit. Though I have no proof, but its my gut feeling that telling me so. That is why as an advise, make your own research and validations too.  Do not believe what is being feed, but  your investigations too. Their signal is best resources to start with.

I think the point there is to have at least an idea of which coins to look at but not necessarily to invest on. Some signals hit the spot though if you look closely, you can actually guess it yourself if only you did some research. Use it as point of observation but don't rely on it.
4583  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Learnings from crash on: February 13, 2018, 12:54:58 PM
well I learned that I must control greed and cash out or turn the coins into tether, in bull session when I saw that I can earn I couldn`t see that every rise has a fall and wanted more and more until I lost my gains.
Yes greediness to earn maximum gains is tha hardest part and yet you will follow your emotions to wait more even if the price was started to fall. Like as pro traders says profit is a profit no matter how much is it as long as a profit.

Well fortunately, that wasn't the first big crash that i've seen since dealing with btc so i pretty much stood at the sidelines watching people panic and spreading it to others. I've believed in btc and its future potential so basically the crash, though a bit unexpected to be that low, didn't really make me shake
4584  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are you wondering what's happening with bitcoin? on: February 13, 2018, 12:50:17 PM
what I'm seeing, bitcoin keeps going down. I do not know why? there's a good heart to have to send a link to get some idea of ​​what's going on. advance thank you.
IMO, that is because of the FUD,  the price is going down but not anymore, we will definitely see a great price increase in the future.
For now, it's time to buy to profit when bullish season will come, anything that is below $10,000 is already cheap, if we believe and we want
money in just short term, we should buy now.

Fud, correction, government restrictions, a lot of negative things happened at the same time during that dump so it's normal that weak hands sell due to panic. The drastic drop actually showed us that a lot of people got in unprepared and sold most likely at a loss.
4585  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin now below $10,000 on: February 13, 2018, 12:47:29 PM
Yes, it is sad to think that the value of bitcoin is ten thousand dollars but we should be optimistic because bitcoin will never leave as in our journey.
That's right the value of bitcoin is around to $9,000 to $10,000, but im sure it will rise is in $20,000 again or more before the end of this year of 2018. The best thing to do is hold and buy other potential coins.

What's so sad about that? Unless you bought in to btc expecting quick easy money, this current pace is a healthy one and i'd prefer it to be this way than that sudden pump last december. Imagine the number of people who got stuck 15k and above. The price plummetted in just days lol.
4586  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is it time to buy some BTC? on: February 13, 2018, 12:43:16 PM
I think that it's a good time to buy Bitcoin especially during this sideways movement.. Be wary if it breaks support though, I would always be on a lookout.
I think that the present moment is not the right time for us to buy bitcoin anymore. We can see in the past few days bitcoin prices have fallen sharply because the bad news coming from countries like Korea and China has had a huge impact on the market. That has made bitcoin prices drop sharply in the past, but at the moment bitcoin prices have started to rise again but the strength is not strong. That shows the market is very volatile and you have to follow market information before making a decision.
If you have this much believe on bitcoin that it will recover in the near future and that you will be able to control your nerves no matter what the conditions will be, I must say that this is the right time to buy some good number of bitcoins and after doing that, put all your coins in your wallet for as long period of time as long as you can. Bitcoin will soon recover and it will definitely help you in having more profit.

There's no better time to buy btc than when people are panic selling. While people are affected by the fuds and negative news, wise people take advantage. Don't be on the losing end of these dips because they're the best time to grow your portfolio
4587  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading altcoin and holding bitcoin which one is more profitable? on: February 13, 2018, 12:40:33 PM
For me personally trading alts is the best because you earn fiat while growing your btc at the same time, but of course trading is so much more riskier than hodling.
Until now i am not great on trading so for me holding bitcoin is more profitable to do, eventhough holding bitcoin is we will takes a lot of time but holding our bitcoin  can really give us a very high amount of money, and i think it is more profitable to hold bitcoin because we will just need to wait until the value of bitcoin is we will pump.

Well if you've been dealing with btc and alts for a long time now, it won't be as risky since there are certain aspects in trading that can be taken advantage of through experience. For newbies, hodling is definitely safer. But try to experience trading while you're holding. Even little trades can help a lot even if you lose in the beginning.
4588  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will under 5000 within this month do you think so on: February 13, 2018, 12:36:42 PM
I think that the price of bitcoin will not reach under 5000 and the maximum dump for bitcoin will be at least 5500 and that is my prediction base on the chart of bitcoin and i am really confident that the market got a lot of supporters that will not let the price cross under 5000.
The dump is already over, now it's time to see the price will grow to $10,000.
I am pretty sure that after the Chinese new year, more money will come it and we will see a significant increase provided that there will be no more bad news anymore.

Well more like the correction is over lol. But we probably would still have a few drops every now and then. And i guess from now onwards, it will be a slow steady climb to where we were weeks ago. 10k will break most likely this february.
4589  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: where i can buy 0.00001 btc? on: February 13, 2018, 12:31:33 PM
1 btc is too expensive, where i can buy 0.00001 btc?

You can make a transaction to other people and buy some bitcoins and bitcoin is low so you can buy now a cheap price of bitcoin.

Sorry, but even for peer to peer transaction and if in someway you get to have someone sell .00001 btc to you, its not going to push through. Hell even the transaction fee would be way higher than the amount you're trying to buy lol.
4590  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Bitcoin or Ethereum? on: February 13, 2018, 12:19:24 PM
Hello....Guys

As we know that the Cryptocurrency is very trending these days. Of course, The Bitcoin Price touches new height day by day and the good thing is that most of the people get more and more benefit from this currency. But I am looking for Alternate Option like Ethereum. So please Suggest me. What's the Future of Ethereum after 5 years of more?



Well, its too hard to predict even what will happen in the next few days so it will more complicated predict what will happen in five year later.
The price right now is going to dip but its not dip enough to comeback to its price in december.
I think bitcoin will continue growing, but i dont know how much price will be reached by etherium. Just hold and hope it can break the all time high.

Its still better to have a diversified portfolio. Yeah bitcoin can be really profitable but so does other alts like eth. I'd prefer to keep both as these two coins pretty much are the banner for thr crypto market today and probably into the future.
4591  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: HODL vs Day trading on: February 13, 2018, 12:16:49 PM
It depends on many factors, and there is a large area between these two. Trading requires skills and experience. Potentially, it is more profitable than holding, but not everyone can do it. Trading is dangerous, it is equally possible to loose a lot. Actually, one can do both, hold the majority and trade small amounts, or hold bitcoins and trade altcoins. Personally, I prefer to hold all my BTC and occasionally (rarely) trade some altcoins, usually not within a day.

Day trade is more profitable like you say because we gain daily profit. But how if we dont get profit? Because its difficult.
Holding is not always low profitable because when you decide to hold and the price hit 10x or more, and it will be more profitable.

Can't really compare the two that much. Day trades do have the potential of making a decent daily profit. Though it also can give you daily losses. I agree that certain skill sets would have to be applied if you're day trading. For holding, you can't hold forever and though its a lot more safe than agressive trading, you still have to study to get yourself a realistic target
4592  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Mistakes in trading that lead to loss of money on: February 13, 2018, 12:10:13 PM
Your mistake/s in trading that leads to loss of money
I think it will be the best to share your story so that we can avoid your past mistakes.

In FAUD situation,can lead us to loss your investment in a wrong decision,because you have not in a proper mindset of your feeling andmaking decision,and that things happen to me last year when i regret the times,when i decide to sell my capp coin right away,because i fear the value will dump in lower price ,but  vice versa  happen next 2 weeks my capp price will go pump high in 6 times  higher than the price market before i sell it .so i regret,but its give me a lot of experience in decision making.
but nevertheless I was already convinced that only people learn their mistakes. Of course what you say many can take note of, but it's a drop in the bucket and under certain circumstances a trader will still make a mistake.
Well mistakes is always there that  is why we don't have to be afraid of mistakes because from the start mistake is a part of a human life same with the looses if we really done wrong and made a mistakes we can really loss but this mistakes really a good teacher and we can really make it as a difference someday so that we can really decide or make a decision in a prudent way.

Exactly. It contributes to your growth and experience. The only thing here is whether or not we'll learn from those mistakes we've committed. If we did learn from it, then we have to be thankful. Crypto trading opens up a lot of opportunities for making money.
4593  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin lower than $6000? Is it possible? on: February 13, 2018, 12:07:12 PM
Theoretically it is, being that the nature of bitcoin is highly volatile, but come to think of it, this is just a part of bitcoin's value getting a correction, if we can still remember, way back in december, there were people who are not investors that came in to play, they have bought bitcoin at a higher price, and those who had bought if at lower price will normally just take profit, leaving the weak hands behind, thus a drop in the price of bitcoin, and now we are clearly seeing the correction in the market, and that's the reason why the price is not going up by 50% or going down by 50%.

This happened last week and none of the people were surprised because of this. Bitcoin markets are so volatile and any price is highly possible in the markets. We can't avoid this.
Well we can't say that no one was surprised. That was quite a big drop from 20k ath but none the less, those who knew what they were doing and what they've gotten themselves into most likely didn't panic. A lot.of people loat loney during that correction basically because they didn't have enough information about what they're doing
4594  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crypto is the future,no need to panic on: February 13, 2018, 12:00:59 PM
that is very true. all those people who keep repeating about the bans and scare themselves into selling their bitcoins are the same people who never understood what bitcoin is. I am willing to bet that most of them don't even have a bitcoin wallet. they use services like Coinbase and exchanges to hold their bitcoins! that is one of the reasons they are too fast to press the big red button of panic sell whenever there is the smallest signs of a drop. and they always press that "button" too late!

Lol. That's why its easy for them to simply sell their btcs with the smallest fud they hear. Too bad for those people. It seems to me as well that many do believe that crypto is the future of transactions. The fact btc didn't touch the 5k mark means that a lot of us are firm in holding and seeing this through for the long term
4595  Economy / Speculation / Re: Reasons for market drop - Panic, you lose! on: February 12, 2018, 01:28:31 PM
that's a very true reason, because in the Chinese new year there are so many people who need fiat money and many sell their bitcoin for fiat money to meet the needs of chinese new year supplies, and that's one of the reasons for the bitcoin turmoil.

I think Chinese New Year is the last thing that can affect Bitcoin price. Mostly the news from Asia and crypto restrictions can make it falling down.

We'll see. Hopefully by march there'll be more uptrend than drops but i expect the market to move slower, similar to how its been moving before the december 2017 bull run. We'll get our all time alright, but those expecting it soon would probably have to wait a little longer
4596  Economy / Speculation / Re: Always Look on the Bright Side of Life on: February 12, 2018, 01:23:02 PM
This is a good reminder for us to always stay positive to attract good things in life and in investment. Though, we shouldn't only rely on the bright side of life and be as realistic as possible. Study of chart movements and research on crypto news will be and edge when it comes to investment. Patience is a good thing to acquire too.


Inspite of all the negative news and speculation of bitcoin around the internet and local medias, my positive perspectives of bitcoin remains the same. I know bitcoin is our future and no one can stop that.

Fuds and negative news shake off weak hands. There are whales with enough number of btc to shift the market up or down and they don't give a crap about these fuds lol. Once they decide to move, the bulls will running around again.
4597  Economy / Speculation / Re: One last dip before moon? on: February 12, 2018, 01:20:15 PM
no moon till china back to the game

For sure China has an impact but i do not expect much from its exchanges. Fake volumes didn't help Bitcoin...
Now more people joining Bitcoin system and buying btc will definitely make the price increases and help spreading Bitcoin worldwide

I agree. China banned exchages before and during that time, btc broke ath a couple of times. I don't think that market has as much effect now than many people think it does. China or not, btc is meant to go to the moon and will take the market with it.
4598  Economy / Speculation / Re: Keep a Cool Head. Play Your Cards Right and Wait. on: February 12, 2018, 01:16:22 PM
OP is wrong....

Green - HODL
Red - HODL
None of the above - HODL

Multi-millionaire - SODL (but HODL 1)

i wouldn't say wrong but your comment is incomplete.
just holding all or selling all is never a good option and also it depends on the strategy that you choose. for most people who don't want to trade holding is a good option but for traders it is not a good idea. it is best to sell before the panic sells and buy the bottoms instead which helps with HODLing more coins after a while.

True but OP mentioned people burned by the strong dip. In that case I would recommend the HODL or investing on the way down.
However if you are burned, investing on the way down is probably not something you are willing to do or can.

Trading platforms are good for making and losing money.
Without them we wouldn't be seeing these numbers Smiley
You need to know what you are doing to limit your risk. Also there are quite some trading sites that got hacked so you need to take that into account.
Therefore I would still advise burned people to put their BTC on a cold wallet (HODL) and go into hibernation for 2 years or so Smiley



Well op did say to hodl even if you're in profit, its just that you can sell a bit because you can't hodl forever. There should be a target for your hodl and you should have at least a plan or an idea about until when you're going to do that. Hodling is good but you can't hold forever
4599  Economy / Speculation / Re: do you think bitcoin will go back to 6000? should i sell now? on: February 12, 2018, 01:03:47 PM
Yes, you should sell it now. If you have to ask such inept questions like it, you don't deserve cryptocurrency.
Whether he deserves or not doesn't matter at all. If he finds that the price will go low he can sell, because he hasn't got the right understanding about the cryptocurrencies. Fear of loss is one that each and every user has got, with cryptocurrency user should have the mentality to face anything. It can be a loss, gain and most importantly hack.

Lol that's a bit too harsh on the dude :p but yeah. These people who seem to be expecting easy, quick money from crypto should just rethink if they really want to be in this industry. It shows the lack of patience of people who didn't do their homeworks before investing
4600  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is stuck at $10k dollars, what is wrong with you people? on: February 12, 2018, 12:52:26 PM
December was very good but in January you lost your faith.
Give us some faith or it won't reach $20k.
Keep it going up people.  Show some confidence.

No, in December bitcoin started to dump and now in this time bitcoin is still better because day by day bitcoin price increase, but little bit. I think bitcoin take time and then the day will come when we will see bitcoin price come at $20000. In starting of 2017 bitcoin has no high price, in mid of 2017 bitcoin give us surprise by increased, then we should wait for mid of 2018.     

People didn't lose faith. It's just that too many bandwagoners joined in last december without really having any idea about what bitcoin and crypto is. And we're still seeing the market dusting off those people right now. And is 10k even a bad thing at this point? Better check your facts again dude :p
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