Also the legal system doesn't say much, I'm a little confused as to why are you defending him?
I'm not defending anyone, I'm merely pointing out that we have no hard evidence of anything; be it a scam or a legitimate enterprise. Okay, can you put some odds on this? (Not to make a bet, just opinion). For me its 99% certain scam. |
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BadPeanut did the detective work to pull real evidence for you all, and you still trust Ryan Gay?
While there has certainly been some interesting information uncovered, there is not a single smoking gun amongst them. All we have is a bunch of facts which possibly relate to CoinPal's legitimacy in some way, but which, at the moment, can't be used to draw any kind of concrete conclusion with IMO. It's in black and white, he is the registered owner. How many times does he need to put back launch because of X reason until you realise that you are being lied to yet again. There is no dispute that he is the registered owner, what we can't confirm is whether his reasons for delaying the launch are legitimate or not. But that's all we have; unsubstantiated suspicions. There is no hard proof of anything. Theres no hard proof that Mark Karpeles was a scammer, nor that TradeFortress was. Correct, this is still going through the legal system. When all is done and dusted, THEN we will know if he is a scammer or not. I'm not familiar with TradeFortress, so can't comment on that one. TradeFortress was inputs.io, they were "hacked" and lost several thousand BTC. (Why would that be in a hotwallet?) Also the legal system doesn't say much, I'm a little confused as to why are you defending him? |
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BadPeanut did the detective work to pull real evidence for you all, and you still trust Ryan Gay?
While there has certainly been some interesting information uncovered, there is not a single smoking gun amongst them. All we have is a bunch of facts which possibly relate to CoinPal's legitimacy in some way, but which, at the moment, can't be used to draw any kind of concrete conclusion with IMO. It's in black and white, he is the registered owner. How many times does he need to put back launch because of X reason until you realise that you are being lied to yet again. There is no dispute that he is the registered owner, what we can't confirm is whether his reasons for delaying the launch are legitimate or not. But that's all we have; unsubstantiated suspicions. There is no hard proof of anything. Theres no hard proof that Mark Karpeles was a scammer, nor that TradeFortress was. |
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That is scary. You should know exactly where every penny goes if you are a major investor...
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Its all just far too busy.
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They're meant to be used in large quantities. Typically in USB hubs 20-40 in size. It's a poor man's ASIC if you got enough.
Sure, but even 100 of these is still only going to ever give you 1 BTC, so from a ROI perspective it just doesn't seem to be worth it! This is why you need to be able to read psychology in people in the investment world sometimes. I invested knowing little about the investor, after a week - look at what I did. Exposed that he is at the least a massive let down and a plain liar. I was ridiculed for it... Now, I have PM's of gratitude and thanks for what I did. You can't hide triggers when someone can push your buttons even over the internet. Things shine through. Ryan Gays were easy to pick up on. BadPeanut did the detective work to pull real evidence for you all, and you still trust Ryan Gay? Why? Cause he pays you dividends? Dividends that should be much larger. I was given the 22nd as the date the debt collectors would get back to me on a paper trail of money from me to him to its then location from that point. Please have bought mining gear Ryan, I'd like to have it seized and already have plans in place for someone in the same state to mine with what you told us you bought. I pay electricity, he takes 15%, I would supply everyone with 1000 shares at least there money back within two weeks and then I would continue the mining as he is probably making a good few thousand a day just now if he actually knows how to mine and if he used our investment for the mining equipment. Had I not done this, he would walk away $$$$$$$ up and you would be left sulking. This isn't a guy you can trust. EVEN if its launched; EVEN if it becomes the biggest exchange in the world. Corporations like that are trustworthy... Does anyone remember MtGox?? Pretty much every scam in the history of bitcoin appeared trustworthy |
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Wait, you mean the guy who uploaded a picture of a plain black box and heatsink and called it an ASIC wasn't genuine.
Holy shit, who can you trust any more.
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Now all we need is for the bitcoin price to take off and we'll really be on a roll!!!  any predictions for this year? i think it'll be more than 1500$ $12,000 |
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edited, thanks - i am very tired
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Down with Governments!!!!
*Bitcoin service runs with my coins*
HELP ME GOVERNMENT!!!
Rinse, Repeat
If we're to have a Government they should help us. We don't have services that can resolve these scenarios until the government is down, so we have to rely on them in the meantime. |
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Nope, absolutely nothing has happened in months. You have been robbed.
Again I don't see why people are so concerned with these next to meaningless shares on the portal.
What does it matter if you have 5 shares on the portal or 5000 ? They are both worth the same thing, which is nothing.
Ukyo not paid back his defaulted loan for many months now, and he hasn't even said any reasons why he can't do so. If you think he is going to magically want to hand over all the bitcoins he stole from you all of a sudden then you are really deluding yourself.
This is the biggest telling factor Don't you owe a couple of bitcoins? |
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Who are you, why are you the right man for the job and how is this going to make an ROI for investors?
Transparency please.
Also; this isn't a kickstarter. People would rather have a successful investment than a t-shirt.
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Thats not even about DDoS. Thats about the internet filter china has in place.
It was to be expected really. However the young people do not care about the filter, they know how to get past it.
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Its not ready to be a national currency yet. Or is it? It could be a self fulfilling prophecy. They adopt it, and it overnight pushes it to new heights where it is ready to be used in such ways.
Then again, 7tx/s is too much of a limit.
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TradeFortress is back. He is posting a lot of messages lately. What's the status on this? How much did he return and how much he kept for himself?
He's a scammer end of. No need to ask the question, whatever hasn't been returned is gone. |
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If you want anyone to hire you, you need to show you can do the job.
Write an article about the bitcoin foundation and post it on here.
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Please show us some examples of your journalism.
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Until now more than 5000 members with over 1354 bitcoins are trusting us.
Please sign a message from a few addresses that contain even 50 btc. |
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Might be worth pointing out your deposit is not really insured. What it means is that if they are hacked, they are insured. It does not mean if your account is phished/keylogged etc you will get your money back.
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