Here's the thing op. So many people keep saying that now is the best time to buy BTC since it's price is low and it will increase and reach its new ATH later, but that's all wishful thinking since BTC can even drop like crazy.
There is no guarantee that you will earn profit on your investment at any point in the future which is why you should invest only what you are willing to lose.
Bitcoin can indeed experience a drastic price decline. Because it cannot be denied, assets will definitely not always be at the top. But if you have thoughts like that, I don't think you understand what a bitcoin asset is. Because when deciding when to buy it, you still seem hesitant. In fact, if you invest your money in any asset, including Bitcoin, there is always a risk of loss. So basically, when you want to invest in Bitcoin, don't be too afraid. Because you need to know, investing is not just looking for profits, but in investing we also have to be able to accept when losses come. So the most important thing is when we start investing in Bitcoin, don't forget to do a thorough analysis. Learn all the important things related to bitcoin, don't miss a single point, because all the learning points related to bitcoin investment are very valuable. And regarding when is the right time to buy bitcoin, I think now is the right time to buy bitcoin. Because currently bitcoin will be approaching halving and a bullish market. What is certain is that the potential will be better, if you want to make a profit. Especially if you intend to invest in Bitcoin in the short term, I think now is the right time to buy. |
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Even though I understand what Wind_FURY is saying, I would not let single versus married versus having other complications (such as a business or unstable/variable income/expenses) in your life deter you from figuring out how to invest into bitcoin, and surely when there are fewer variables, it can be and should be easier to figure out disposable income, but everyone still has similar challenges to figure out disposable income and to figure out the various uncertain aspects that come with more complexities in your finances whether income, expenses or even the influences (behaviors of others) that would cause variance.
The mere fact of complexities or even low income does not make investing into bitcoin a black and white issue in which you either invest or you do not invest, but instead likely justifies maintaining a more solid emergency fund that might cover larger amounts for more months, and also might justify smaller regular DCA amounts, and then perhaps adding to the DCA amounts in times that discretionary income is greater. It may even be the case that the people with the most complicated financial/psychological situations need bitcoin more than others, even if it might be more challenging for them to figure out how to accomplish a solid, regular consistent and persistent way of investing into BTC.
Maybe for single people they can budget their monthly income more aggressively in investing in Bitcoin, for example 40% to invest because single people certainly don't have bigger responsibilities in their lives. But if which are married, of course they can invest 10% of the income they get every month in Bitcoin. Because I am also married and budgeting 10% is not too difficult for me because 10% is a savings that we don't touch if our economy gets worse. And those who are already working, of course, if they are not able to save themselves by setting aside a portion of their income to invest, they will definitely regret it later because they spent money on things that are not useful in their lives, such buying the latest cell phone and other things. I taught some of them in my neighborhood to set aside their money to invest in Bitcoin for their future and yes sometimes they ignored it but yes now they regret it. In my personal opinion, investing in bitcoin will not be a big obstacle if you already have a family. Because in reality there are still many single people who certainly don't have big responsibilities, but in reality there are still many who haven't invested in bitcoin. Therefore, I think the main differentiating factor between unmarried (single) bitcoin investors and married bitcoin investors is the issue of their financial situation. Because think about it, if someone is single, but their monthly income is only enough for daily living, can that person invest in bitcoin? My answer, of course, is most likely no. However, if someone is married, even though their needs are many, if their monthly income is greater and can meet all their family's living needs, I am sure that person can invest in Bitcoin better. So clearly the main point is about financial conditions. Because whether you are single or married, if your financial situation does not support it, I believe it will be difficult to invest in Bitcoin. Because of the supporting factors for success when investing in bitcoin • Sufficient knowledge (about how to buy, sell, wallet, history, ETC) • Invest with cold hard cash • Using appropriate purchasing methods (DCA) • And lastly, you must be able to control your emotions. So the single factor and the married factor are not the main factors and are not a necessity or prohibition. |
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And a little advice from me, when you do DCA, you should send your bitcoins to your wallet at least every two accumulation periods. Because currently bitcoin transaction costs are quite high. So to minimize this, it's a good idea to collect bitcoins on the exchange first, and if you have collected a large amount of bitcoins, then send them to your wallet. Moreover, you like to do DCA on bitcoin with small amounts.
Yep. BTC accumulators should be trying to figure out the size of their UTXOs, so that they are able to have options in the future, especially if there are periods in which the transaction fees might unexpectantly go higher for a certain period of time, and there could even be instances in which they stay high for long periods of time. If someone is ONLY accumulating $10 per week, then maybe they have to wait several months, even 6-12 months (or even longer) before they send their accumulated BTC holdings to private BTC addresses, and personally I am not trying to encourage holding BTC on exchanges, but it may well be more practical to make sure that a person does not have his BTC in UTXO sizes that become either unspendable or just way too expensive to spend, and even someone with $200 worth of BTC in a UTXO might not want to spend 1/4 or $50 on transaction fees to send it, but if the person has $5k in a UTXO, then spending $50 to send it might be considered reasonable (or acceptable). I know that some folks had already explained and/or theorized that poor people are disproportionately affected by periods in which the BTC transaction fees are really high and also that BTC transactions seem to be unwarranted for smaller sized transactions, and these also could be purposeful attacks on bitcoin in order to dissuade poor people from getting involved in bitcoin, and that truly could end up working to the disadvantage of poor people who do not figure out ways to accumulate bitcoin without incurring high transaction fees, and so what kinds of transaction options that are available is going to vary from location to location, and not everyone is going to have access to lower fee kinds of options in order to accumulate BTC, which likely does not stop BTC's price from going up, but it does end up scaring (or dissuading) some poorer people from getting involved in bitcoin, even though it would be to their advantage to consistently and persistently accumulate BTC during these times rather than waiting. Yes, currently Bitcoin transaction fees are still quite expensive. I just checked on Mempool,the lowest fee right now is around $4.52. For investors who like to do DCA with bitcoin with fairly large assets, there will definitely be no problem with these fees. However, for bitcoin investors who have limited capital, the impact will definitely be felt. Apart from that, I also have an assumption, if bitcoin transaction costs continue to skyrocket and do not decrease in the next few months, perhaps the image of bitcoin will change slightly among small investors. Because for them (small investors), if for example they paid a transaction fee of $5, maybe they would think twice about investing in bitcoin. Because in some countries $5 is quite valuable, and to get it some people have to work all day. So if, for example, it is true that there is play by several parties or several people, I don't think they have thought carefully about the impact. Because instead of continuing to promote Bitcoin's image with the slogan of cheap transaction fees, they instead make transaction fees expensive (if there is a game at all). However, I also agree with you, that instead of waiting for bitcoin transaction fees to become even cheaper, it is better to continue to set aside cold money to accumulate in bitcoin. Because instead of waiting, it's better to just start and continue (DCA). But on a longer scale in terms of accumulation time. Because maybe all of this happens, (expensive transaction fees) if seen from the positive side it is caused by network congestion. Because maybe the bitcoin halving will be coming soon. Therefore, many people flocked to invest in bitcoin and caused the network to become congested. But even so, I hope that bitcoin transaction fees can be cheaper as soon as possible. |
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"8 ) your abilities to strategize, plan, research and learn along the way including tweaking strategies from time to time," https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5376945.msg58719590#msg58719590I personally think that number 8 can deal with a lot of things in terms of how much time anyone has to be able to spend on bitcoin and learning, and if you do not have a lot of time, then you need to attempt to maintain a less aggressive and maybe even a more passive strategy, and DCA works pretty well for someone who does not have a lot of time to study into bitcoin or even to study into various kinds of strategies to monitor if the BTC price is going to go up or down. DCA is not only recommended for people who don't have time much time to study but its also adopted by people who have sound knowledge of Bitcoin. Because as you study more about Bitcoin and strategies to invest in Bitcoin you get to know that DCA is quite a good option to go for it. There are other options also but DCA is different in a sense that it benefits everyone the same way and this is something not available in other investing options. What works well for me may or may not work for you. DCA method is a sound investment method not only for those who do not have enough time to study about Bitcoin but also for all investors. You are an investor and you certainly never want to be limited to the investments you made in the beginning. That is, if I say the matter clearly, then the matter is that once you invest in Bitcoin, you don't stop investing, but you invest in the future when the time gives you an opportunity. And this is called DCA method of investing. I don't know how you think about investing but investing is a bit different for me. It is difficult for me to manage a large amount of money at once so I started my investment with a relatively small amount. After starting investing with less money I have been making my investments regularly so I am not stressed. We have to invest in such a way that we don't have to sell the investment later. I have enough money to invest and I invested with all my money, after some time it appeared that I needed a lot of money and I immediately sold my investment. Isn't it really long term investment? Even if we invest a relatively small amount of money, we must maintain that investment for a long period of time. Bitcoin price is changing every moment whether it is positive change or negative change. If I continue to invest continuously in the midst of change, but considering the profit and loss, at the end of a period my capital amount will be much more and if I keep that large amount of capital for a long time, I will definitely get a lot of good from my investment. Investing in bitcoin using DCA is indeed a good thing for all levels of bitcoin investors. Because by using the DCA method, those who have large, medium and small funds can model it well. Whether it's once a week, or once every two weeks, or once a month. So whatever income Bitcoin investors have every month, it can be accumulated well. Apart from that, investing money in bitcoin using the DCA technique is also profitable with minimal risk of loss. So you don't need to worry, when you experience a decline in the bitcoin market price. Because if, for example, the money you invested in Bitcoin in the first month decreases due to the drop in Bitcoin prices, don't worry, because in the second month you will most likely be able to cover the entire amount. reducing the amount with the money you invested in the second month. Therefore, the DCA technique is both highly compatible and complex when used to invest in bitcoin. Everyone definitely has different abilities regarding the amount of money they want to invest. So if you are a typical bitcoin investor who prefers to invest small amounts, then there is nothing wrong with that. Because the most important thing is that you are consistent with the DCA that is being carried out. And regarding whether the bitcoin investment you are making is long term or not, it depends on how long you hold the bitcoin. If for example there is more than one bitcoin cycle (4-5 years), then the investment can be said to be a long-term investment. Investment assets definitely experience changes in market prices and this also applies to bitcoin. Therefore there will always be a decrease or increase. So your point about holding bitcoin longer is a very good thing if implemented. And to anticipate price declines and increases, DCA is here to be the solution. And a little advice from me, when you do DCA, you should send your bitcoins to your wallet at least every two accumulation periods. Because currently bitcoin transaction costs are quite high. So to minimize this, it's a good idea to collect bitcoins on the exchange first, and if you have collected a large amount of bitcoins, then send them to your wallet. Moreover, you like to do DCA on bitcoin with small amounts. |
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Tapi saya berharap di pemilu yang akan datang,semoga tidak ada lagi kejadian-kejadian yang kurang mengenakan,seperti yang terjadi di pemilu 2019 lalu. Karena pemilu kan pesta demokrasi yang harusnya di sambut bahagia oleh seluruh masyarakat di Indonesia,jadi jangan sampai ada lagi tragedi yang justru membuat masyarakat indonesia menjadi sedih. Dan semoga saja pemilu kali ini bisa menjadi pemilu yang sangat adil,transparan,aman dan bisa menghasilkan pemimpin-pemimpin yang bisa membangun negeri ini dengan lebih baik.
Saya juga berharap begitu gan, semoga tragedi tahun 2019 pada pemilu silam tidak akan terulang kembali dengan kejadian banyaknya anggota kpps yang sakit maupun yang sampai meninggal, mungkin hal ini harus dievalusi bersama sama dengan memilih anggota kpps yang benar benar sehat jasmani dan rohani, misalnya faktor usia juga berpengaruh, dan yang penting adalah cek kesehatan jasmani apakah anggota yang terdaftar benar benar sehat atau tidak. Dan ngomong-ngomong tentang pemilu tahun depan ni om, menurut saya masih akan sama seperti tahun tahun sebelumnya karena kita sudah tahu pasti demokrasi di negara ini tu seperti apa?? karena Pedoman luber jurdil hanya dipakai sebagai pemanis saja dan yang mempraktekkan masih sangat minim. Yah pastinya faktor kesehatannya memang harus di periksa dengan sebaik-baiknya,karena itu adalah pencegahan dasar agar tragedi seperti pemilu sebelumnya tidak terulang lagi. Selain itu kejujuran juga sangat di perlukan ketika pemeriksaan kesehatan nya. Karena takutnya ada unsur manipulasi terhadap tes kesehatan tersebut. Dan pemilu kali ini dalam segi persaingan memang pasti akan sama seperti pemilu-pemilu sebelumnya. Karena ya begitulah kebiasaan nya,memang sudah sangat susah untuk di rubah. Karena hal tersebut memang sudah menjadi rahasia yang umum. 
Mengingat kembali pada kejadian kelam yang terjadi pada pemilu 5 tahun silam memang cukup menyedihkan. Karena saat itu bahkan banyak beredar konspirasi-konspirasi atau kabar burung yang bervariasi yang bahkan membuat warga kebingungan dan menimbulkan keresahan. Bahkan sesama warga juga banyak yang menjadi memiliki pendapat berbeda dan saling sikut. Intinya saat itu banyak terjadi gunjang ganjing dipemerintahan dan juga dimasyarakatnya sendiri. Dan saya ingat banyak juga hal-hal yang terjadi dipemilu tersebut yang masih menjadi tanda tanya sampai saat ini. Seperti proses pemilu yang terjadi dipapua yang juga penuh dengan tanda tanya. Semua itu harus memang harus menjadi pembelajaran bagi kita semua dan terutama KPU supaya lebih maksimal lagi dalam menertibkan proses pemilu itu sendiri. Karena negara juga sudah mengeluarkan banyak uang untuk proses pemilu tersebut sehingga seharusnya semua jajaran KPU harus bekerja lebih baik. Jumlah anggaran yang saya baca dari situs Dpr.go.id sebagai berikut: Komisi II DPR RI telah menyetujui pagu anggaran 2024 untuk
✓ KPU RI sebesar Rp 28.398.893.459,000
✓ Bawaslu RI sebesar Rp11.611.620.116.000
✓ Usulan tambahan anggaran yang diajukan Bawaslu RI dan katanya telah disetujui oleh komisi II sebesar Rp1.418.643.553.000.
✓ Komisi II juga telah menyetujui penambahan anggaran Bawaslu dari hasil pembahasan di Banggar DPR RI untuk kenaikan gaji sebesar Rp 6.092.142.000
(Sumber: https://dpr.go.id/) Lebih jelasnya bisa membaca disumber diatas. Dengan anggaran sebesar itu saya harap semuanya bisa berjalan lebih tertib dan kualitas pemilu menjadi lebih baik dari sebelumnya. Di saat itu konsfirasi dan sangkaan negatif memang sudah jadi bahan obrolah setiap bapa-bapa yang lagi nongkrong gan. Tapi kenyataannya pihak pemberitaan menjelaskan bahwa semua itu terjadi hanya karena kelelahan dan telat minum obat dari penyakit yang di derita oleh si pegawai KPPS. Entah itu benar atau tidak,tidak ada yang tahu. Jadi saya juga masih berpikir semua itu memang masih menjadi misteri besar sampai saat ini,termasuk TPS yang ada di Papua. Dan anggaran pemilu tersebut memang sangat di sayangkan,karena adanya insiden tersebut.
tidak terasa ya waktu begitu cepat berlalu sekarang sebentar lagi di tahun 2024 kita akan melakukan pemilihan umum yang saya dengar dilaksanakan di bulan februari. op karena anda pernah menjadi petugas tps pada pemilu yang kemarin 2019 tentu anda pasti bisa merasakan bagaimana kondisi badan anda saat itu. kalau menurut saya op penyakit itu bisa datang secara tiba tiba dan kita tidak akan tahu waktu penyakit berhinggap di tubub kita, jadi menurut saya dalam pemilu 2019 hanya kebetulan saja, karena memang petugas tps itu sebelum hari pencoblosan tentunya kesehatannya sudah di cek dan hanya orang yang sehat jasmani dan rohani yang layak menjadi anggota tps. jadi menurut saya kejadian itu hanya kebetulan saja, ya semoga di pemilu yang akan datang semoga tidak ada kejadian yang tidak di inginkan. Ini topik yang menarik gan, dan saya juga ingin bertanya apakah agan juga menjadi anggota tps di pemilu yang akan datang pada 2024?  kalau anda terpilih sebaiknya anda harus menjaga kesehatan anda dari sekarang agar pada waktu pencoblosan kondisi badan agan tetap sehat. Di saat itu saya juga merasakan rasa lelah yang lumayan berat. Tapi tidak sampai sakit sih,cukup istirahat sehari saja,badan sudah bugar kembali. Selain itu jika tragedi pemilu di tahun 2019 hanya kebetulan saja, memang bisa jadi. Tapi rasanya,kebetulan nya terlalu ekstrem. Karena anggota TPS yang sakit itu ribuan orang dan anggota TPS yang meninggal itu ratusan orang. Jadi rasanya ada sedikit keganjilan saja. Karena jika tes kesehatan di lakukan dengan baik,saya rasa hal tersebut kemungkinan besar tidak akan terjadi. Dan di pemilu yang akan datang,tadinya sih mau di masukan anggota KPPS lagi. Tapi saya sedikit ragu,karena ada banyak kesibukan juga. Jadi sepertinya saya tidak ikut serta gan. |
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Just because you are planning to sell your bitcoin with hopes of buying back cheaper, that does not necessarily mean that your plan is a good idea, to the extent that we are even talking about those selling on the way up ideas, especially your insinuation of both selling a large quantity of your coins and also your suggesting that you can buy it back on the way down, supposedly.
Even if you find that others are thinking in the similar kinds of ways as you, that does not necessarily mean that those kinds of ideas are good or even in line with the theme of this thread, which surely is referring to holding BTC in the long term, rather than perhaps your 2-3 year plan or your plan that is less than 4 years, since you seem to be wanting to play the waves of the cycle, which does not even seem to be the kinds of things that many of us are talking about in this thread.
So yeah, if you have been in bitcoin for maybe a bit more than a year as your forum registration shows, that may well indicate that you don't really appreciate the value of bitcoin as a longer term investment like someone who has been in bitcoin longer and who have held bitcoin longer and who have ended up benefiting quite stupendously from a compounding effect that comes from holding BTC over more than one cycle.. and yeah, sometimes you could end up getting some compounding effects from holding BTC within one cycle, yet how you going to know when to sell and when are you going to know when to buy back? Your plan of selling most if not all of your BTC at some point (or maybe various points on the way up - supposedly at or near the top) does not really sound that great, even if we might try to suggest that the ideas of your plan could be in line with some of the ideas of this thread, which is questionable at best.
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That's right, it seems I still don't understand the actual concept of HODLing bitcoin. Because my thinking is still stuck in the four-year bitcoin cycle (halving) and also the bull market. However, in reality, long-term investors in bitcoin, who are HODLing bitcoin, do not seem to necessarily follow this cycle to sell their bitcoin assets. However, the main direction and goal is more towards the more distant future. So basically long term bitcoin investors will probably continue buying bitcoin via DCA and HODL for a longer period of time. Apart from that, I was also reminded a little by you that investing in Bitcoin for the long term is not just about looking for profits. However, another important point is to maintain the value of the assets we own so that they are not eroded by inflation. Then talking about my plans to sell bitcoin in the upcoming bull market, you could say I'm not a long-term investor. Because it's true that I bought bitcoin more or less a year ago. So, if for example I sell it in the upcoming bull market (2024-2025), that means I will only HODL bitcoin for approximately 2-3 years. This means that I am not a long-term investor, but a medium-term investor or I could also say a short-term investor. Because after I researched and studied again, it turns out that long-term investors always HODL their assets (bitcoin) for more than five years. So it looks like I have a lot to learn and understand more deeply about this. Because I don't understand the context of HODL bitcoin well. What's important thing there is do what you want for your money since if you think you can't afford to hodl for a decade then maybe DCA is best for you but try to consider to save up some amount to test out what will be the result if you save up some amount intended for long years. If you want to ride with Bull and Bear then nothing is wrong with it since actually that's what other investor do they only speculate with bitcoin 4 year cycle since they just aim to earn when bullrun came and another ATH has been recorded on history of its existence. For sure by consistent dealing up any market activities we are participating for sure we can figure out how to hodl and how to do other things that can possibly give us good result so much better if you continue what you do but don't forget to learn new things everyday since this could really help us became more better investor. And we should not forget to have separate balance saved since remember that bitcoin has limited supply so we provably can see a huge increase if massive bitcoin adoption will happen since we could expect that demand will increase more higher. Persisting and remaining consistent with what I want regarding Bitcoin investment results, will definitely be my priority. Because after all, I already had intentions and plans regarding this since I decided to buy bitcoin. However, it is not impossible for me to change plans for certain reasons. Because perhaps my initial intentions and goals when investing in Bitcoin were less effective or less than optimal. However, for now I will definitely continue to do DCA on bitcoin, before the bull market arrives and when the bull market is underway, I will most likely pause the DCA that I usually do. Because if the market is bullish, I think it is very likely that the price of bitcoin will definitely be above. So I decided to pause DCA. Although basically what I do is different from the DCA scheme which doesn't really prioritize the rise and fall of prices when entering and buying. But in my opinion, this decision is not too bad to consider. Because if you look at the history of the bitcoin halving and bullish market in the last few years, after bitcoin reached its ATH, after that the bitcoin price experienced a correction first. Well, maybe during the halving period or more precisely in the upcoming bull market, I will take a break from DCA and will start again after Bitcoin experiences a correction. Although I don't know yet whether the correction will go down much or not. However, when Bitcoin experiences a correction, I will definitely decide to DCA again, even though the correction is not too far, or even doesn't go down at all. And if in the next bull market, bitcoin reaches a high price(ATH), I will most likely sell 50% of my bitcoin to take some profit. Initially I wanted to sell 100% of the bitcoin assets I owned. However, from this discussion I gained a new understanding and perspective regarding HODLing bitcoin. Therefore I will not do that. Because it would be a shame if all the bitcoin assets I have collected so far (DCA) are completely sold and I will start from zero again. |
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How does El Salvador compare to Panama or Costa Rica when it comes to local market adoption? Panama seems really bitcoin-friendly.
Panama and Costa Rica seem to be very friendly towards bitcoin. Because I found old news about a congressman in Panama who was going to make a regulation regarding bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in his country. Panamanian congressman Gabriel Silva plans to submit a bill that could potentially spearhead the adoption of cryptocurrencies as legal tender and create tax incentives for crypto-related businesses. Source: https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/market/20210617115729-17-253850/giliran-panama-bakal-akui-bitcoin-sebagai-mata-uang-yang-sahBut after I looked for the latest news, I couldn't find what the sequel was like. This means that it can be concluded that up to now these regulations have not yet been made or have not yet been definitively ratified by the government. And regarding Costa Rica. The law regarding bitcoin seems to have been written. In October 2022, congresswoman Johana Obando introduced a bill seeking to approve bitcoin and cryptocurrencies as regulated payment methods in the country, as a means to modernize the economy. Source: https://www.liputan6.com/crypto/read/5151406/kosta-rika-kenalkan-ruu-untuk-setujui-kripto-jadi-metode-pembayaran-sah?page=2But what I understand from the news, it seems that the law was not made absolutely for the adoption of Bitcoin like in El Salvador. But it is more about securing and protecting property rights for people who own bitcoin or crypto (legalization). So the conclusion is that these two countries are very friendly towards bitcoin. But for the issue of full adoption like in El Salvador, it still doesn't seem to happen. Because it certainly won't be that easy to imitate the bitcoin adoption that occurred in El Salvador. |
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and HOLD BTC is the action you should choose
As believers of bitcoin, the most important lesson we were all given was how to become long-term holders of bitcoin in order to become profitable investors. If we can accomplish that, our bitcoin holdings should have generated returns for us in the future, depending on the duration of our bitcoin hodling decision(months, or years). If you invest in Bitcoin for the long term, you will benefit the most. Because the only long-term hold on Bitcoin is the investor will be successful. So if a person wants to be successful in life, he should invest in Bitcoin for long term. Because I am waiting to get my success full from Bitcoin. In Bitcoin you will find success in life if you can make a long term investment with difficulty in the beginning. Only the beginning has to have the ability to take such risks. Investing in bitcoin in the long term will indeed be very profitable. Because it's not just a story or fantasy, but a lot of real evidence, that bitcoin investors who managed to control their emotions and managed to hold bitcoin until the price was high, were ultimately able to reap huge profits. Therefore, investing in Bitcoin in the long term is indeed the right thing to achieve maximum profits. Currently, many of us definitely hold bitcoin, maybe some have a goal of holding it for a period of 1 year, 4 years, or even 10 years. But I assume there are many bitcoin investors who will quit (sell) in the next bull market. Due to bitcoin's 4-year cycle (halving) and subsequent bull market, it has become something of a transit point for many bitcoin investors to change paths and set new goals. The point is to take profit, then wait for the bitcoin market price to fall again, then buy bitcoin and hold it again. Because I personally also plan to sell my bitcoin assets in the upcoming bull market, but of course at the price I was aiming for from the start. Just because you are planning to sell your bitcoin with hopes of buying back cheaper, that does not necessarily mean that your plan is a good idea, to the extent that we are even talking about those selling on the way up ideas, especially your insinuation of both selling a large quantity of your coins and also your suggesting that you can buy it back on the way down, supposedly. Even if you find that others are thinking in the similar kinds of ways as you, that does not necessarily mean that those kinds of ideas are good or even in line with the theme of this thread, which surely is referring to holding BTC in the long term, rather than perhaps your 2-3 year plan or your plan that is less than 4 years, since you seem to be wanting to play the waves of the cycle, which does not even seem to be the kinds of things that many of us are talking about in this thread. So yeah, if you have been in bitcoin for maybe a bit more than a year as your forum registration shows, that may well indicate that you don't really appreciate the value of bitcoin as a longer term investment like someone who has been in bitcoin longer and who have held bitcoin longer and who have ended up benefiting quite stupendously from a compounding effect that comes from holding BTC over more than one cycle.. and yeah, sometimes you could end up getting some compounding effects from holding BTC within one cycle, yet how you going to know when to sell and when are you going to know when to buy back? Your plan of selling most if not all of your BTC at some point (or maybe various points on the way up - supposedly at or near the top) does not really sound that great, even if we might try to suggest that the ideas of your plan could be in line with some of the ideas of this thread, which is questionable at best. ~Snip That's right, it seems I still don't understand the actual concept of HODLing bitcoin. Because my thinking is still stuck in the four-year bitcoin cycle (halving) and also the bull market. However, in reality, long-term investors in bitcoin, who are HODLing bitcoin, do not seem to necessarily follow this cycle to sell their bitcoin assets. However, the main direction and goal is more towards the more distant future. So basically long term bitcoin investors will probably continue buying bitcoin via DCA and HODL for a longer period of time. Apart from that, I was also reminded a little by you that investing in Bitcoin for the long term is not just about looking for profits. However, another important point is to maintain the value of the assets we own so that they are not eroded by inflation. Then talking about my plans to sell bitcoin in the upcoming bull market, you could say I'm not a long-term investor. Because it's true that I bought bitcoin more or less a year ago. So, if for example I sell it in the upcoming bull market (2024-2025), that means I will only HODL bitcoin for approximately 2-3 years. This means that I am not a long-term investor, but a medium-term investor or I could also say a short-term investor. Because after I researched and studied again, it turns out that long-term investors always HODL their assets (bitcoin) for more than five years. So it looks like I have a lot to learn and understand more deeply about this. Because I don't understand the context of HODL bitcoin well. |
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and HOLD BTC is the action you should choose
As believers of bitcoin, the most important lesson we were all given was how to become long-term holders of bitcoin in order to become profitable investors. If we can accomplish that, our bitcoin holdings should have generated returns for us in the future, depending on the duration of our bitcoin hodling decision(months, or years). If you invest in Bitcoin for the long term, you will benefit the most. Because the only long-term hold on Bitcoin is the investor will be successful. So if a person wants to be successful in life, he should invest in Bitcoin for long term. Because I am waiting to get my success full from Bitcoin. In Bitcoin you will find success in life if you can make a long term investment with difficulty in the beginning. Only the beginning has to have the ability to take such risks. Investing in bitcoin in the long term will indeed be very profitable. Because it's not just a story or fantasy, but a lot of real evidence, that bitcoin investors who managed to control their emotions and managed to hold bitcoin until the price was high, were ultimately able to reap huge profits. Therefore, investing in Bitcoin in the long term is indeed the right thing to achieve maximum profits. Currently, many of us definitely hold bitcoin, maybe some have a goal of holding it for a period of 1 year, 4 years, or even 10 years. But I assume there are many bitcoin investors who will quit (sell) in the next bull market. Due to bitcoin's 4-year cycle (halving) and subsequent bull market, it has become something of a transit point for many bitcoin investors to change paths and set new goals. The point is to take profit, then wait for the bitcoin market price to fall again, then buy bitcoin and hold it again. Because I personally also plan to sell my bitcoin assets in the upcoming bull market, but of course at the price I was aiming for from the start. |
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Pemilu yang seharusnya menjadi pesta rakyat dimana pergantian tongkat kekuasaan diharapkan akan memberikan dampak yang lebih baik, justru menjadi salah satu tragedi yang harus menghilangkan ratusan nyawa para petugas, jelas hal ini adalah sebuah tragedi kelam dalam catatan demokrasi kita. Tidak terasa itu sudah bertahun tahun berlalu, dan sekarang beberapa bulan lagi kita akan dihadapkan dengan pemilu serentak. Kejadian itu banyak menimbulkan polemik di masyarakat, beberapa alhi angkat bicara dan dikalangan mereka juga menjadi berbeda pendapat yang justru memperkeruh suasana pada saat itu. Bahkan beberapa kalangan memiliki teori konspirasinya sendiri bersangkutan dengan pemilu yang curang dan lain sebagainya. KPU harusnya bisa belajar dari kejadian kelam dimasa lalu dan bersiap untuk pemilu yang akan datang, jangan sampai pemilu yang harusnya menjadi momen yang bagus justru menjadi momen berbela sungkawa. Namun sepertinya mereka sudah melakukan itu sejak saat ini, pasalnya saat ini beberapa orang yang saya kenal yang bergabung ke PPS sudah mulai mengecek kesehatan mereka dan bahkan saya mendengar untuk menjadi PPS prosesnya lebih ketat, salah satunya dalam mengecek kondisi kesehatan para petugas. Satu hal lagi, siapapun yang akan terpilih nanti, baik itu menjadi Presiden atau anggota legislatif, saya berharap mereka bisa memangku kekuasaan dengan baik dan menjadikan Indonesia lebih baik lagi. Yah,KPU saat ini memang sudah lebih memperketat pemilihan anggota/panitia yang nantinya akan bertugas di KPPS. Karena kebetulan rumah saya dekat dengan kantor desa dan beberapa hari kebelakang sekilas saya melihat ada tes kesehatan bagi anggota KPPS. Dan sepertinya memang tes kesehatan nya di lakukan dengan lebih ketat. Selain itu di desa tempat saya tinggal,anggota KPPS seperti nya di dominasi oleh anak muda. Jadi pasti kesehatan nya akan lebih bugar dan lebih fit. Karena jika melihat kejadian lima tahun kebelakang,anggota KPPS yang sakit dan yang meninggal itu mayoritas berumur 50 ke atas. Yah saya sepemikiran dengan agan,jadi kita tidak perlu bingung. Apapun hasilnya,mau presiden no berapa,mau legislatif partai manapun,yang terpenting bisa membuat negeri ini sejahtera.
semua pihak tentu tidak menginginkan bahwa hal-hal buruk akan terjadi pada pemilu serentak yang mendatang. namun sebagaimana pesta demokrasi pada umumnya, kita tidak bisa berharap sepenuhnya bahwa pemilu 2024 akan berjalan tanpa suatu masalah apapun, pasti akan ada masalah disini dan disana, karena pemilu merupakan produk manusia yang rawan akan kecurangan, politik uang, penyuapan, manipulasi suara, dsb.
namun demikian, biarpun pada akhirnya terdapat masalah-masalah pada pemilu 2024 mendatang, kita semua berharap bahwa masalah-masalah tersebut tidaklah semasif seperti pemilu 2019 yang lalu. jangan sampai ada lebih banyak kotak suara yang di manipulasi, banyak pengawas TPS yang disuap dan manipulasi data kesehatannya, politik uang dimana-mana, dan masalah-masalah lainnya. sehingga kedepannya kita bisa mendapatkan seorang pemimpin dan wakil parlemen yang bersih, amanah, dan bekerja sepenuhnya untuk negara.
Masalah memang pasti ada saja,karena namanya juga pemilu,gesekan-gesekan dari para calon ataupun para pendukung calon pasti ada. Dan KPU ataupun bawaslu juga pasti tidak bisa mencegah permasalahan tersebut hilang sepenuhnya. Tapi setidaknya di minimalisir sih pasti. Karena entah do daerah saya saja, atau tidak. Tapi atmosfer pemilu kali ini tidaklah sekuat yang terjadi di pemilu kebelakang. Jadi mungkin pemilu kali ini akan lebih aman.
Jadi pertanyaan yang ingin saya ajukan,apakah mereka benar-benar menjalankan tes kesehatan atau tidak?,atau mereka di loloskan saja,karena memang tidak ada kandidat untuk mengisi anggota di TPS?. Karena bagi saya pribadi berita tersebut masih sedikit mengganjal di pikiran. Jadi apa tanggapan agan-agan tentang tragedi pemilu 2019 tersebut.?
sebenarnya banyak kandidat yang bisa untuk dijadikan sebagai anggota penjaga TPS. akan tetapi mereka masih berfikir, dengan kerja yang sangat ekstra tetapi dengan honor yang minim. sudah pasti banyak yang menolak untuk dijadikan anggota. alhasil ketua memilih yang mau-mau saja meskipun itu memiliki riwayat penyakit berat. apalagi melihat 1 TPS saja diharuskan memiliki 7 anggota KPPS. tidak usah membayangkan TPS se-indonesia, di tingkat kecamatan saja sudah berapa TPS dan harus ada berapa anggota KPPS. pasti banyak sekali kebutuhannya. ditahun ini KPU sudah mulai berbenah dan menyadari hal tersebut, pada tahun 2024 ini anggota KPPS diberikan honor Rp 1.100.000 berbeda jauh dari tahun 2019 yang hanya Rp 550.000. tentunya ini akan menjadi pendorong para calon anggota yang masih muda dan tidak memiliki riwayat penyakit menjadi mau untuk bergabung di pesta rakyat 5 tahunan ini.
Anggota KPPS pada pemilu kali ini mendapatkan kenaikan gaji dua kali lipat ibandingkan dengan pesta demokrasi sebelumnya.Kunci permasalahan nya memang jelas dari honornya gan. Karena seingat saya ketika saya menjadi anggota KPPS di lima tahun lalu,gajinya memang 550 ribu. Itupun saya lupa,apakah uangnya berhasil saya terima dengan jumlah segitu atau kurang,tapi yang jelas lumayan beda jauh dengan gaji anggoa KPPS sekarang. Jadi memang benar,anak-anak muda yang baru lulus dari SMA pasti akan mau di tawarkan jadi anggota KPPS,apalagi yang masih nganggur . |
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They are too focused on the price of one bitcoin chip and feel that the money they have is not enough even to buy 0.1 bitcoin which causes them to think that the price is too high, and I also think the same thing, that there are still many people who do not realize that DCA is the most appropriate strategy for people with low, medium and sufficient income, even though with DCA we can manage it according to our abilities.
This thread is very helpful and I hope a lot of people continue to talk about this, because I think discussing in this thread even with the reviews piling up and repeating, but the usefulness will come to each new person who comes to this thread.
If someone looks at the price and purpose of 1 piece of bitcoin then of course it will be expensive 1 BTC is too high so if you buy 0.1 BTC it will feel very heavy if you do it at once, with the DCA method you can have 0.1 BTC even up to 1 BTC if you continue to do DCA all the time let time be the process of how we continue to accumulate bitcoin so on with the DCA method. People who have not realized DCA are usually ordinary people, who have not been involved in long-term investment for a long time while DCA has been effective for low investors with minimal income even though the salary is minimal every month you can still do DCA if your financial management and cash flow still have leftovers then spend more on bitcoin. In fact, I am happy with this thread, we can see how they do DCA all the time, funds how their process journey as I told above until now is still doing DCA even though the level of input is small but I already have more than 0.1 BTC from siganture the rest is in another wallet as the main wallet. That's a mindset mistake that must be avoided if we want to succeed in achieving what we aspire to. Not a few people have big dreams and want to achieve them immediately. But without them realizing it, they forget the foundation that must be built from the bottom. Likewise with bitcoin investment, if you want to be successful in owning a large enough amount of bitcoin assets, of course you have to do it gradually (for people who don't have a very large income). Because I think that's the only way to achieve it. And DCA is an effective way to make those purchases. Even though the time required may be long, it is all relative. Because it all depends on how the DCA is run and how much money is included in the DCA strategy. Apart from that, the price of bitcoin will also definitely have an effect, if for example doing DCA when the price of bitcoin is high (but this doesn't need to be taken into account too deeply). So the most important thing is to continue doing DCA on bitcoin, and determine the goal. Although in this thread could say there is a lot of repetition in the review. But I think it can be a good reminder for us as fellow bitcoin investors and will definitely be a good lesson for beginners who see and read this thread. |
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There are other coins in crypto currency other than other coins Why did El Salvador choose Bitcoin in their country?
Because Bukele understood that there is a difference between bitcoins and shitcoins, so why get distracted with scams if you actually understand what bitcoin is? Including shitcoins into any El Salvador plan would have had been dumb and a distraction (and also would have shown that Bukele did not sufficiently understand what bitcoin is)... and so it should be considered a good thing that they/Bukele are/is neither dumb nor distracted into shitcoins. From the start, Bukele had a high commitment to Bitcoin adoption, and this is proven to this day. Because its commitment does not waver in the slightest with other alternative coins. So if Nayib Bukele has the initiative to try or expand his plans to add altcoins to his long-term portfolio, in my opinion Bukele can be said to be lacking in keeping his commitment. However, I am sure that Bukele is not that kind of person, because his belief in making bitcoin legal in his country and deciding to create a long-term portfolio for bitcoin, has become an absolute thing that cannot be shaken. Because that was the goal from the start. Even though his term of office will end in 2024, from what I know, he will run again for president and will most likely win. And what is certain is that his long-term project regarding bitcoin will definitely continue. SAN SALVADOR, September 15 (Reuters) - El Salvador President Nayib Bukele said Thursday he would run for re-election, even though the country's constitution bars presidents from serving consecutive terms. Source: https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/despite-prohibition-el-salvador-president-bukele-says-he-will-seek-re-election-2022-09-16/Even though there are a few restrictions, Bukele still wants to nominate himself again. This means that from this we can conclude that Bukele's seriousness towards the project he is currently running is very large (bitcoin adoption). And in conclusion, Bukele is unlikely to risk adding another coin to his portfolio. Because this portfolio does not belong to Bukele personally, but rather belongs to one country. So it's impossible for Bukele to dare take such a big risk. |
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Sumber gambarSelamat malam sobat-sobat,dan agan-agan SFI. Di masa-masa kampanye pemilu yang sedang berlangsung saat ini,seketika saya menjadi teringat akan kejadian kurang mengenakan yang terjadi pada pemilihan umum yang di selenggarakan di tahun 2019 silam. Karena di pemilihan umum yang terjadi di tahun tersebut, atau lebih tepatnya setelah pemilu tersebut baru selesai,kita semua di kejutkan dengan berita yang sangat menyedihkan. Karena setelah pesta demokrasi tersebut selesai, dari berita yang saya lihat dan saya dengar,banyak anggota TPS yang sakit dan bahkan meninggal dunia. Entah karena apa penyebab aslinya,mungkin kecapean menjadi salah satu faktornya. Tapi dari beberapa berita yang saya baca,katanya para anggota TPS yang meninggal dunia tersebut di sebabkan Karena beragam penyakit,seperti hipertensi,serangan jantung,diabetes dan juga penyakit ginjal.. Hal tersebut mungkin saja benar,karena bekerja di TPS bisa di bilang memang sangat melelahkan. Meskipun kerja ekstranya kurang lebih hanya 2 hari 2 malam saja. Tapi tetap saja,rasanya memang sangat lelah. Karena saya pribadi jadi petugas TPS di tahun 2019 tersebut dan capenya memang sangat terasa. Tapi yang menjadi unek-unek bagi diri saya pribadi, jumlah anggota TPS yang sakit dan yang meninggalnya sangatlah banyak. Berdasarkan data Kementerian Kesehatan hingga 16 Mei 2019, KPPS yang sakit mencapai 11.239 orang dan korban meninggal 527 jiwa. Sumber: https://nasional.kompas.com/read/2019/12/23/07294701/kaleidoskop-2019-tragedi-pemilu-dari-petugas-kpps-tewas-hingga-kerusuhan-21Apakah itu sebuah kebetulan atau memang karena para anggota TPS tersebut memang semuanya memiliki riwayat penyakit yang berat. Sebab jika benar,kenapa para anggota TPS tersebut lolos ketika di tes medis/kesehatan.Berarti jika lolos pastinya para anggota TPS tersebut benar-benar sehat dan minimalnya tidak memiliki penyakit yang berat. Karena setahu saya,sebelum di lantik menjadi anggota TPS,selalu ada rangkaian tes kesehatan. Dan biasanya orang-orang yang memiliki riwayat penyakit berat,tidak diperbolehkan untuk menjadi anggota TPS. Jadi pertanyaan yang ingin saya ajukan,apakah mereka benar-benar menjalankan tes kesehatan atau tidak?,atau mereka di loloskan saja,karena memang tidak ada kandidat untuk mengisi anggota di TPS?. Karena bagi saya pribadi berita tersebut masih sedikit mengganjal di pikiran. Jadi apa tanggapan agan-agan tentang tragedi pemilu 2019 tersebut.? Lalu setelah lima tahun berselang,tidak terasa pesta demokrasi atau pemilu sebentar lagi akan datang. Calon presiden baru sudah muncul dan para calon dewan baru juga sudah bermunculan. Yah,meskipun sebenarnya kandidat nya ada juga yang sama seperti di pemilu lima tahun kebelakang. Tapi saya berharap di pemilu yang akan datang,semoga tidak ada lagi kejadian-kejadian yang kurang mengenakan,seperti yang terjadi di pemilu 2019 lalu. Karena pemilu kan pesta demokrasi yang harusnya di sambut bahagia oleh seluruh masyarakat di Indonesia,jadi jangan sampai ada lagi tragedi yang justru membuat masyarakat indonesia menjadi sedih. Dan semoga saja pemilu kali ini bisa menjadi pemilu yang sangat adil,transparan,aman dan bisa menghasilkan pemimpin-pemimpin yang bisa membangun negeri ini dengan lebih baik.
Referensi bacaan● https://www.kominfo.go.id/content/detail/51930/kematian-petugas-kpps-pemilu-2019-karena-diracun-awas-disinformasi/0/berita_satker● https://nasional.kompas.com/read/2019/12/23/07294701/kaleidoskop-2019-tragedi-pemilu-dari-petugas-kpps-tewas-hingga-kerusuhan-21● https://kema.unpad.ac.id/rilis-kajian-pemilu-serentak-2019/
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Assalamualaikum WR WB Selamat malam sobat-sobat SFI yang ada di seluruh penjuru negeri. Tidak terasa sudah satu bulan lagi,setelah saya mengajukan laporan yang terakhir. Jadi seperti biasa saya akan mengirimkan kembali postingan terbaik yang saya miliki. Dan semoga saja kualitas postingan yang saya kirimkan kali ini bisa lebih baik dari bulan kemarin. Bagi agan-agan yang mau memberikan masukan, motivasi ataupun kritikan sangat di persilahkan. |
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Re: Apakah metode DCA bagus untuk investasi?
Di dalam dunia investasi (khususnya bitcoin/kripto) metode DCA bisa dibilang metode yang paling banyak di gunakan oleh para investor. Karena seperti yang agan bilang Berinvestasi dengan menggunakan metode DCA sangat relevan, sebab kita bisa menjadi memanajemen keuangan dengan baik. Intinya dengan menggunakan metode DCA di dalam investasi bitcoin/kripto yang kita miliki,pasti akan lebih terarah dan terorganisir. Jadi tidak akan ada lagi yang namanya kebablasan modal ketika berinvestasi di dalam bitcoin/kripto. Selain itu, berinvestasi menggunakan metode DCA ini sangat relevan bagi para investor yang belum memiliki modal yang besar. Karena dengan pembelian yang berkala menjadikan para investor memiliki waktu yang lebih banyak untuk mencari modal. Jadi metode DCA ini memang sangat relevan untuk di pakai ketika berinvestasi di bitcoin,kripto, ataupun saham. |
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~Snip
* Apakah ada cara lain untuk bisa cepat sampai asset saya ini di exchange, seperti penambahan fee nya
Mungkin ada dari rekan rekan sekalian yang mempunyai pengalaman seperti saya di atas
Biasanya untuk menyelesaikan permasalahan pengiriman/transaksi yang sulit untuk di konfirmasi ataupun terus tertumpuk oleh antrian transaksi yang lain,selain menggunakan cara RBF biasanya saya menggunakan akselerator. Jadi dengan menggunakan akselerator tersebut, transaksi agan yang terkena macet akan di siarkan ulang kepada para penambang. Meskipun memang tidak secepat RBF,tapi dari pengalaman yang saya alami menggunakan akselerator memang manjur juga. Jika agan ingin mencobanya agan bisa kunjungi situs di bawah ini. https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/Cara untuk menggunakan akselerator tersebut sangat simpel gan. Agan hanya perlu menyalin/mengcopy hash transaksi bitcoin yang ingin agan akselerator. Setelah itu paste di kolom yang sudah di sediakan di situs tersebut. Biasanya setelah satu kali melakukan akselerator,setelah satu atau dua jam transaksi nya akan di konfirmasi. Tapi jika misalkan transaksi agan masih macet,agan bisa terus mengulangi akselerator satu jam sekali. Selain itu akselerator ini gratis gan. Yang berbayar juga ada,tapi saya selalu menggunakan yang gratis saja,dan hasilnya bisa di bilang kebanyakan berhasil, meskipun agak sedikit lambat. |
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Dengan banyaknya member BTT yang menteleportasi akunnya ke forum Altcointalks, kemungkinan besar hal tersebut akan semakin menghidupkan Altcointalks yang selama ini pengguna nya tidak terlalu rame. Apalagi ditambah dengan beberapa kampanye tanda tangan (mixer) yang rencananya akan beralih kesana,pasti akan semakin menambah keseruan sih.
iya gan masih rencana, lagipula kesempatan berubah fikiran mungkin masih bisa terjadi selain di altcointalk (bitcoin garden dll), saya sendiri juga antusias karena ada peluang baru yang akan terbuka, namun memang lebih enak bitcointalk dari segi originalitas utas dan kualitas para member nya, di forum baru mungkin akan terbentuk profesionalitas setiap akun dengan berjalan nya waktu (muncul mulai siganture campanye) dan asumsi saya sebagian besar yang ada di sana mungkin warga dari forum bitcointalk Yah jika berbicara soal kualitas postingan dan kualitas para membernya sih,BTT memang jauh lebih unggul. Karena BTT memang memiliki member-member yang sudah sangat ahli di bidang industri perkriptoan. Jadi wajar saja jika BTT tetap menjadi forum diskusi nomer satu di bidang bitcoin/kripto. Selain itu setahu saya forum BTT adalah forum diskusi kripto/bitcoin yang pertama dan yang paling tua. Ditambah,pounder nya juga adalah Satoshi,jadi wajar saja jika BTT memiliki kesempurnaan di atas forum diskusi kripto lainnya. Tapi jika misalkan Altcointalks benar-benar di jadikan alternatif forum diskusi yang kedua setelah BTT,dan membernya semakin ramai,saya yakin pihak Altcointalks juga pasti akan membuat perubahan. Mau itu dari tampilan ataupun aturan. Jadi kita tunggu saja gan. |
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