I like when weak hands let out his coins. It's a premise for a better future.  true that. People that don't day trade and sell now don't deserve the fruits of tomorrow |
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The buy wall is quite possibly very legit. On January 13th, user Dynamic Index makes a comment on this thread with the message, "I'm looking to buy 1,000,000 ICN, anyone selling?"
Then on January 14th a 1,000,000 buy wall appears on Kraken. User Dynamic Index then makes a comment on the 14th confirming that it is his buy wall. You can look back in the thread at this.
That doesn't make much sense. If you want to buy 500k ICN or more you don't place a buy wall like that. The wall shows support from some big whale(s) and is there the set the price floor. How real it is? We will find out if the price drops. |
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fucking hell, ICN goes up 24% and idiots on here lose their fucking marbles.... what will happen when ICN does an ETH on us? You fucks will have jizzed your pants already by then..... Premature ejaculators....  You mean premature jaka-lators.... people who sell their ICN just before Jaka Mele of ICONOMI gives the latest good news.... https://medium.com/@jaka.melehttps://twitter.com/jakamele
ICN JUST HIT 3X OF ICO PRICE
I AM HODLING.405,943.272 Icn @ ฿0.000405 is real? Of course not. If someone wants to but 400K ICN, setting up a buy wall is the worse option for that. That wall moves ahead when price jumps and disappears when price drops. |
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Cant wait for the launch ,and for the old economy to start sucking Iconomi's dick.
man. you killed me here  Would add it to the official FAQ |
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Selling ICN at $0.32 is the modern-day equivalent of purchasing 2 pizzas for 10k BTC
If you copy-paste others posts, at least mention their name. It was posted by MoveCrypto |
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I did regret at some point when i tried to sell mine during the first days of ICN. but then the BTC I got was also invested on monero to which I have earned 60% of my investment. Now I'm starting roll these money to trade well in crypto, I think I'm starting to learn well in trading and hope to learn good with ICN as well.
I have bought back my ICN recently and will make a good timing one again, hopefully if its going to be red for maybe 2%.
Even with that 60% Monero profit, you are still in the red if you bought ICN during the ICO and sold right after. |
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Although over half of hedge funds manage less than $100m, they represent only 1.4% of the industry’s $2 trillion or so in assets, according to Hedge Fund Research, a data provider — The Economist. This is quote from Economist's article. To get an impression how huge is this business in FIAT world I think the way Crypto world is going, fund managers will be the next big thing in Altcoin market, people need someone to manage their portfolio for them and this is good that ICONOMI is leading the way. I just hope they deliver the right platform Exactly that was my point. When people will find out about fund management I think this will be break through. In "normal" life people do not have time to trade but would like to save money in alternative way. P.S. whats behind this big sell. Somebody is dumping? I read something on slack but am not sure if it is just trolling The fact that ICONOMI is still above its ICO price itself speaks a volume about this project. Those who are selling are usually traders who buy and sell everyday but the investors are holding for they know the potential that this coin holds all true, just plz stop calling Iconomi a coin |
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I'm still holding onto mine - I have faith in this coin & feel it will be wise to not sell (it's just too early to put a real price on this yet)! Give it some more time is my advice..
can you guys stop calling Iconomi a coin? |
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The premise is faulty, as we operate on ETH which is the fork that didn't agree on the "code is law" principle. He makes good points, of course, but ETC pushed for code=law, so the title is a bit out of place. IMO. It is not out of place because the next time you will have money locked in a smart contract and someone will find a way to execute a valid transaction that takes that money out, you will have another DAO bailout fork and another community split. We can argue whether it was a bailout fork or not, but the fact is that the community is no longer united and that is bad, and it shouldn't happen again. |
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Tsunami season is approaching again guys. With release announcement so close, we are almost half way into the third wave.
If you are unfamiliar with Elliot wave principle:
Wave three is usually the largest and most powerful wave in a trend (although some research suggests that in commodity markets, wave five is the largest). The news is now positive and fundamental analysts start to raise earnings estimates. Prices rise quickly, corrections are short-lived and shallow. Anyone looking to "get in on a pullback" will likely miss the boat. As wave three starts, the news is probably still bearish, and most market players remain negative; but by wave three's midpoint, "the crowd" will often join the new bullish trend. Wave three often extends wave one by a ratio of 1.618:1.
+1 0.001 btc will be reached in this coming wave, especially with the big Launch announcement expected any day now. i would use day candles for a classic pattern analysis with emas, support and break-out scenarios to trade. its better for semi-automated trading. the price chart follows the development of the platform and its anticipation, so you can you use Elliott Waves Theory. i would not trust this instrument, it just works if you use it with a lot of intuition as all pattern prediction instruments. take a look into X-Sequentials from Devin Sage, its less 1930es but more complex or a temporary approach like numer.ai so we could hit now the 410 and then go in a channel down and then seeing an approach to break-out up or going down in a bigger channel sidewards. at the moment there is alot of volume, what is good for volatility Exactly, it works because it predicts human behaviour not price movements. Since we are still waiting for launch, market sentiment and emotions play a huge part in the price movements we are seeing. Just like Fib retracement, Elliot principles works well in speculative/volatile markets especially in crypto, because they predict human behaviour. Thanks for the suggestions, I will look into those further! P.s. I have no ICN on Kraken and the minimum I will start moving some is 2018 or until my ICN is $0.5m. Whichever comes first, and then followed the next morning with a resignation letter to my manager...it's good to have dreams right I have simply been burnt too many times trading coins during the initial moon stage. ETH, XMR and even BTC. It's simply not worth the risk unless you work for goldman sachs lol goldman sachs sucks |
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Yes, it's on https://etherscan.io/token/ICONOMI and the address to where the tokens have been sent is correct. I won't dump hard. P.S.: Yes, 35,000 ICN... but I won't dump them. Can the tx still be refused because of low gas and if yes, what happens then? I think there is not enough gas cause you sent 52179 and the cumulative gas used is 58179... Contact Kraken Support It's already in confirming mode. Thanks anyway and don't panic. I won't sell. Not that I mind if you sell or dump, just out of curiosity - why would you move them to kraken if you don't want to sell? |
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At first rally we will see $1 and then some period of stability and making floor before starting raise to next rise up. Many people were just miss this opportunity in their busyness with making profit from BTC. ICN is real deal and should be kept in holding for some period as there is not much time to see a sudden uptrend.
Many people want to buy only after they see the product, and don't mind buying for 3x price than now. For every seller there is a buyer, and those who hold will be rewarded. |
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As for dividends? Iconomi will spend the gas value to send us dividends or will it be like vslice where we need to specify the contract address and pay gas fees to get dividends for the token we hold Just an example https://blog.vdice.io/vslice-redeem-profits-process/I am relatively sure that Iconomi will substract the gas fee from our dividends. I am not sure. Fees payments are operational costs. |
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Poloniex has had 27,500 btc volume ($24 million) trading volume in the last 24 HOURS! Imagine how much trading volume they have in 1 year and how much profit they make from fees! I will be happy with just 10% of that trading volume on OFM in the first year...
Do I hear someone off in the distance asking for a math calculation to be done? Wait just a moment....why, yes....yes I do !!!! So Polo has $24M per day in trading volume. That's roughly 30*24M = $720M in trading volume per month. Let's assume ICONOMI OFM ramps up to capture 10% of the Polo trading traffic per month at some time in 2017. At that point, OFM would be handling 2750 BTC in trade per day for a total of around 30 * 2.4M = $72M in trades per month. Hey, that sounds like a reasonable goal.... Poloniex fees are detailed at https://poloniex.com/fees/. If ICONOMI charges a competitive 0.20% fee, they would then be earning roughly speaking 0.002 * 72M = $145K per month in OFM fees, or around $1.75M per year. As the official owners of the OFM, holders of ICN tokens receive all fees from the OFM platform. Thus in this example 100M ICN tokens would split $1.75M per year, or around 0.0175 USD per ICN token per year. These tokens are currently for sale at Kraken for around 0.3000 USD per ICN token. So ICN TOKENS PURCHASED ON KRAKEN TODAY OFFER A 0.0175 / 0.3000 = 5.8% ANNUAL RETURN ON INVESTMENT JUST FROM OFM FEES FOR EVERY 10% OF POLONIEX TRADE TRAFFIC CAPTURED DURING 2017.
IF OFM EVER GETS AS BIG AS POLO, ICN TOKEN HOLDERS GET 0.175 USD PER YEAR PER ICN TOKEN JUST FROM OFM FEES. THIS WOULD BE A 58% ANNUAL RETURN AT CURRENT KRAKEN ICN PRICES.
BUYING ICN AT KRAKEN IS LIKE BUYING INTO AN IPO OF POLONIEX OWNERSHIP - AND MUCH, MUCH MORE. THESE CALCULATIONS DO NOT INCLUDE ADDITIONAL PROFITS ACCUMULATED BY ICN TOKENS FROM ICNX AND ICNP FUNDS. THESE ADDITIONAL PROFITS MAY BE EVEN BIGGER THAN OFM PROFITS. I AM HODLING.Don't we all like it when Mal does these calculations?  |
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I can see the near future. And I have a concern: I don't know if I will fit in the lambo, when wearing the space suit. Do you have any solutions?   go for convertible |
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you can get in touch with devs on Slack and Troll on BCT. lol!!! then why do we need a new troll box? who made it? whaere can i get the slack invite? i can invite you if you want.. than you have to send me your email adress, first and last name in PM i dont think it has to be your real name, email has to be working of course :-) You don't need an invite from anyone, just a valid email. Here is the link https://iconominet.slack.com/signupA simple Google like also do it |
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Love it why do I only see newbie accounts pushing this iconomi.club? How come you weren't here to support the project in the last few months, and now suddenly you come out with this link? |
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Everyone that wants to buy cheap tokens it is time now while wall is still on.
I would like to point out now just something. Amrutrk speculated about the price. I think firstly we need results and also we have to see how brand will be seen by investors. We can see price 1$, 25$ or 0,1$. But if they will become really long term benchmark for investing into crypto, I think it is just imposible to predict. Because we also do not know how will crypto develop in the future. People can grab it or governments can shut it down or at least put it back into really small proportions. But if ICN would be seen by investors the same as bitcoin, then real price of ICN to today's price of BTC 1148$ would be 185$ per ICN. Please note again that price is only at today prices and with prediction that investors see value of each coin/token as 1=1 (which I really cannot say if it is possible or not). I got the price with dividing all ICN tokens with all BTCs right now and then dividing BTC price with value I got dividing tokens and coins.
But really I dont think any of that can be predicted right now and I dont think it is meaningfull
governments can shut it down Can you name one technology that works and is usable by people that was shut down by any government? About the price - of course it is speculations. That is what this forum is about Ok let me refraze it: prohibited. And I can name it easily: torrents - Germany. I know its not the same but politicions can decide many things and I think political thread is always possible. Kraken does not provide service in NY due to legislation reasons Just doing PEST analysis for crypto and everything is speculation I really can't see that happens. It is a new technology, so people have fears. But it is being widely adopted. Besides, they can't stop technological evolving. As for torrents - VPN VPN VPN A friend of mine lives in Berlin and he had to pay a fine for not using VPN (too expensive, nothing will happen) |
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Everyone that wants to buy cheap tokens it is time now while wall is still on.
I would like to point out now just something. Amrutrk speculated about the price. I think firstly we need results and also we have to see how brand will be seen by investors. We can see price 1$, 25$ or 0,1$. But if they will become really long term benchmark for investing into crypto, I think it is just imposible to predict. Because we also do not know how will crypto develop in the future. People can grab it or governments can shut it down or at least put it back into really small proportions. But if ICN would be seen by investors the same as bitcoin, then real price of ICN to today's price of BTC 1148$ would be 185$ per ICN. Please note again that price is only at today prices and with prediction that investors see value of each coin/token as 1=1 (which I really cannot say if it is possible or not). I got the price with dividing all ICN tokens with all BTCs right now and then dividing BTC price with value I got dividing tokens and coins.
But really I dont think any of that can be predicted right now and I dont think it is meaningfull
governments can shut it down Can you name one technology that works and is usable by people that was shut down by any government? About the price - of course it is speculations. That is what this forum is about |
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