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461  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN][ICO] ⭐️⭐️⭐️ROMAD - NEXT GENERATION ANTI-VIRUS! WORKING PRODUCT!⭐️⭐️⭐️ on: January 11, 2020, 07:40:54 AM
karena biasanya yang invest itu cari jangka panjang.
tapi ga sedikit juga investor yang main jangka pendek, setelah listing langsung jual lagi. Biasanya kebanyakan investor kripto sih seperti itu
itupun dalam kondisi kalau memang investasinya untung, saya juga pasti kalau invest terus pas listing harganya naik 2x lipat pasti saya akan langsung jual, karena apa? karena situasi sekarang beda dengan beberapa tahun kebelakang. saat ini banyak yang ragu untuk hold lama lama karena tahu sendiri bagaimana kondisi perICOan saat ini. ya contohnya Romad ini mungkin banyak investor yang kesal karena tidak bisa dijual sampai saat ini, tapi setelah listing mungkin mereka akan berlomba2 untuk menjualnya.
462  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN][ICO] ⭐️⭐️⭐️ROMAD - NEXT GENERATION ANTI-VIRUS! WORKING PRODUCT!⭐️⭐️⭐️ on: January 11, 2020, 06:11:13 AM
betul gan, kalau cuma forkdelta mah tidak kita anggap sebagai market. kecuali memang volume jual beli nya seimbang dan harganya sesuai. lah ini peminatnya aja tidak ada.
sebagai investor tentu akan sangat kecewa. tapi entah apa yang dipikirkan oleh TEAM untuk mereka tetap HOLD token ini untuk tidak bisa dijual langsung, sedangkan mereka terus fokus pada projeknya. karena menurut saya sejatinya projek crypto itu yang meramaikan adalah market jual belinya. percuma kalau tidak ada marketnya siapa yang akan tertarik coba?
Pepatah ala bounty hunter mengatakan "tim harus fokus ke perkembangan proyek dulu dibandingkan listing pada market atau rate pada market", mungkin pepatah tersebut tidak sepenuhnya benar karena selama perkembangan proyek sejauh ini secara tidak langsung respon pasar masih sangat kurang, saya berharap saja kalau investor tidak dikesampingkan atau bahkan membuat mereka rugi
salah besar itu gan, pepatah bounty hunter itu yang penting listing di market dan koinnya bisa langsung dijual Cheesy
kecuali mereka investor, tentu sebelum investasi mereka melihat proyeknya, sehingga mengharapkan perkembangan proyek ini kedepannya bagus. sehingga mereka bisa untung besar, karena biasanya yang invest itu cari jangka panjang.
463  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Full time trading is boring on: January 11, 2020, 04:31:21 AM
One of the biggest cons of full time trading is being alone , boring sitting in front of computer watching charts data all the time from past 6 moths i am almost doing this and now because of this i am not able to focus on trades. i feel like quieting full time trading and go to job so i make some new friends and Socialness

what you guys do to avoid this biggest cons on full time trading

A one to two trade a day is enought no need to monitor the 24hrs flow of the market, but like you said being trading is a full of challenges on how you settle your own weakness and emotion. In other words you need to balance your daily life dont put all your time on trading.
Why others still enjoy doing full time trading? If you are earning well you must enjoy doing the things that you like. That’s true no need to monitor every time, if this will consume your time and you did not enjoy it well, give time yourself a relaxation for a while. It needs a management of time when doing trading.
do not be too greedy, if you already make a profit just go for refreshing or hangout with friends or famaly, the point is not greedy. I also felt that, and changed my time management, not only trading, sometimes campaigns also made me bored.
464  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ITO] WPP ENERGY TOKEN - TOKEN TO BE TIED TO THE VALUE OF H2 on: January 11, 2020, 03:31:18 AM
Troy recently mentioned Coinbene is no longer under listing consideration and logos of Coinbene and IDAX have been removed from the website except Binance and Huobi, but there is no way they will list WPP at the current state. Don't know why WPP didn't apply atleast for Bittrex and UpBit as it's completely free and would bring extra liquidity.

 
I have never seen any crypto project announce a listing on a big exchange prior to the actual listing.
There are always NDA's in place and breaking those will break a crypto-project. I'm guessing we will see at least one more exchange trading WPP before the end of Q1 2020.
... just guessing.


After concluding their ICO, they clearly mentioned they are going to list the WPP coin in 5 exchanges but till now it did not happen. Every time we are seeing excuses from them, we are busy with other things, but the thing is going slowly like other companies.

Not all projects can deliver on their promises during this time, but I am sure WPP will have a lot of news soon to bring investor confidence back. Maybe the value of WPP cannot make you happy, but I believe that when everything is resolved, WPP will soon reach a new high price in a short time. Personally, I consider this a very good opportunity to invest because this is a very good project in the long term.
I am still waiting, as long as I see the team is still actively developing, I still hope that this project still has hope. I'm also waiting for the latest listing on the market with pair BTC.

Yes, right. wpp token project requires a very long time. I hope the results are very satisfying. don't disappoint the supporters of the WPP Token project

I do not know how long it took, at this time it might have been running for 2 years. I see the last update seems like they are optimistic in 2020, they say "There are some big developments pending for Q1 2020 which must set the tone for an amazing 2020." we are ready for it Smiley
465  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Periksa mata uang UVU, itu akan memberi Anda keuntungan tahun ini. on: January 10, 2020, 12:06:37 PM
itu bukan akun saya, sulit ... Anda tidak ingin terlibat dalam UVU karena dalam demo versi WP beberapa kalimat aturan blockchain telah disalin - kasus Anda, saya tidak akan membujuk. Saya buang waktu menerjemahkan dan melakukan banyak pekerjaan, jadi saya bahkan tidak mendapatkan 10 dolar di sini.
salam.
Anda telah banyak membuang waktu di thread ini.

If you have a legit project you won't even tried to make this thread by yourself but you'll spend money to find someone who is able to do this thing well.

Also about plagiarism it is very fatal that you have done. The people here will tend to give a bad judgment although you have tried  to defend with what you think is right.
iya juga ya dia keliatan marah karena udah susah payah cari kepercayaan sana sini tapi bagaimapun ada bukti susah. lagian logika dia bikin thread di tiap lokal buat cari apa?, sedangkan dia mau buat thread di global takut makin banyak yang cap projek scam karena jelas udah ada buktinya juga.
466  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN][ICO] ⭐️⭐️⭐️ROMAD - NEXT GENERATION ANTI-VIRUS! WORKING PRODUCT!⭐️⭐️⭐️ on: January 10, 2020, 10:04:01 AM
sudah bisa kok gan, hanya saja marketnya gak resmi, bisa cek disini  Roll Eyes
bagaimanapun, investor, bounty hunter, dan semua yang terlibat membutuhkan market yang resmi untuk melakukan perdagangan sih kalau menurut saya.
Kalau cuma di forkdelta itu pengecualian karena tim dari pihak exchange juga tidak terlibat secara langsung dalam hal listing tetapi holder token itu sendiri mencari alternatif untuk bisa memperdagangkan tokennya, setelah sekian lama proyek ini berjalan ternyata di lihat dari forkdelta tidak ada peminatnya
betul gan, kalau cuma forkdelta mah tidak kita anggap sebagai market. kecuali memang volume jual beli nya seimbang dan harganya sesuai. lah ini peminatnya aja tidak ada.
sebagai investor tentu akan sangat kecewa. tapi entah apa yang dipikirkan oleh TEAM untuk mereka tetap HOLD token ini untuk tidak bisa dijual langsung, sedangkan mereka terus fokus pada projeknya. karena menurut saya sejatinya projek crypto itu yang meramaikan adalah market jual belinya. percuma kalau tidak ada marketnya siapa yang akan tertarik coba?
467  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN][ICO] ⭐️⭐️⭐️ROMAD - NEXT GENERATION ANTI-VIRUS! WORKING PRODUCT!⭐️⭐️⭐️ on: January 10, 2020, 08:26:18 AM
Yah mungkin saja mereka masih mengembangkan produknya namun kenapa ekosistem tokennya tidak di kembangkan pula dan tanggal listing pun kita tidak mengetahui pastinya karena setiap di tanya pada telegramnya mereka hanya memberikan jawaban tidak pasti saya sih berharap antivirus ini menjadi the next antivirus yang bisa bersanding dengan anti virus terkemuka lainnya dan untuk token apakah mempunyai harga tinggi di kemudian hari kemungkinan tidak akan secepat itu.
saya sudah melihat dari proyek sebelum mereka fokus ke perkembangan tanpa harus memperdulikan market dan sekarang tertuju pada roamad , menurut saya sistem gini kurang bagus juga lebih baik fokus ke dua nya antara perkembangan dan market setidak nya bisa men stabilkan 
kalau soal pengembangan produk, project ini toplah, karena hingga saat ini pengembangan demi pengembangan masih terus dilanjutkan. hanya saja, investor, atau penahan token ini butuh kepastian kapan token ini bisa di tradingkan. selain itu, untuk memperpanjang masa aktif anti virus jga sepertinya butuh tokennya kan, jadi yang udah make antivirus ini dan dah kehabisan masa aktif akan sulit untuk memperpanjangnya.
kalau gak salah project ini dari tahun 2018 yah, udah hampir 2 tahun tapi belum ada ciri-ciri untuk list, sedih juga sih lihat investornya, padahal prject ini banyak menangin event-event terkait crypto dan antivirus.
jadi romad token ini sampai saat ini belum bisa di tradingkan? projek dari 2018 skrg udah 2020 padahal ya. seharusnya pengembangan produk itu bisa diikuti juga dengan market, sehingga ketika produknya berkembang demand dan nilainnya juga ikut naik nantinya. intinya memang harus seimbang, jadi percuma kalau gabisa di tradingkan.
468  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [BOUNTY][HDX]Token Hydax - Token EXCH Paling Berharga - EXCH Sedang Berlangsung on: January 10, 2020, 03:37:05 AM
toh IEO di hdx juga masih kurang peminat kan?
memangnya sudah ada ya proyek yang mau mengadakan ieo di hydax ? kalo ada sih pasti peminatnya banyak karena volume trading hariannya juga banyak
kayanya sudah ada gan, 2 proyek IEO di hydax yaitu Echoin sama atlas protocol, cek aja langsung ke web nya itu kan ada.
469  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price in January 2020 will touch 10k, What do you think? on: January 10, 2020, 02:47:38 AM
Most likely it will happen as you predicted, we are currently affected by the war of the US and Iran, and this is definitely the catalyst for the growth of cryptocurrency and Bitcoin markets in January. The current bitcoin price has risen slightly to $ 7,500 and it will continue to rise soon over the next few days

trump says peace and maybe there will be no more effect on bitcoin for now, even after those words bitcoin price starts to decline. I did expect bitcoin to go up, but not with war way. maybe the price will stable in the range of 7500 for now.
470  Economy / Speculation / Re: Now that we touched $8,000, what's next? on: January 09, 2020, 01:16:54 PM
It has a good chance to defend the 8000... for now. But there's less than 3 weeks until the Chinese New Year, so I don't expect the euphoria last too long.
Are you sure Chinese New Year will have an effect? I think it will be the same as Christmas. there is no significant effect. but if this time continues to break above 10k it does not mean the influence of the Chinese new year, maybe the effect before halving will have a FOMO.

I am not sure of what the future holds, obviously.
But from what I remember from other years the periods before Chinese New Year and US tax day are not great for Bitcoin price, so .. those are my expectations.
Not great for bitcoin prices? and its your expectations? means you expect bitcoin price to fall? it's been almost 4 months bitcoin price is under 10k, is that enough time to bearish? but in the early months of 2020 bitcoin price is showing a positive move, is now the time to bullish?
471  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: ✅[ANN] Tachyon Protocol - Protokol internet terdesentralisasi | 50 Juta Pengguna on: January 09, 2020, 09:07:24 AM
saya ingin bahas bounty nya cukup menarik juga bagi untuk bagian singnature di setiap level pakek slot dan bayaran hitungan per minggu
Hal apa yang menarik dari kampanye signature untuk di bahas disini karena bounty ini sama halnya dengan bounty signature lain pada umumnya, yang berbeda mungkin dari rulesnya dibandingkan kampanye signature yang ada di bagian board Services
kok menarik gan ? bukannya sama aja yah ? ada banyak kok bounty yang perminggunya di bayar berdasarkan nilai token di bandingkan stake. tapi, ini akan menarik kalau bayarannya tiap minggu, mungkin bisa jadi saingan sama yobit (becanda). bagaimanapun, itu benar-benar menarik jika pembayarannya tiap minggu karena dah ada market juga ini project. sayangnya sama aja sih, yang bedakan projectnya dah list di tempat bagus.
kalau dibandingkan saat ini dimana bounty hunter sulit untuk menghasilkan lagi karena kebanyakan projek hasilnya abu abu, selain bayaran btc yang emang agak susah untuk joinnya. tapi memang menarik dengan IPX ini, agak jarang juga sebuah token ngadagin signature  dengan cara seperti bayaran tiap minggu dan sudah listing di market besar jadi jelas tidak ragu untuk mengerjakannya.
472  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ITO] WPP ENERGY TOKEN - TOKEN TO BE TIED TO THE VALUE OF H2 on: January 09, 2020, 08:06:29 AM
Troy recently mentioned Coinbene is no longer under listing consideration and logos of Coinbene and IDAX have been removed from the website except Binance and Huobi, but there is no way they will list WPP at the current state. Don't know why WPP didn't apply atleast for Bittrex and UpBit as it's completely free and would bring extra liquidity.

 
I have never seen any crypto project announce a listing on a big exchange prior to the actual listing.
There are always NDA's in place and breaking those will break a crypto-project. I'm guessing we will see at least one more exchange trading WPP before the end of Q1 2020.
... just guessing.


After concluding their ICO, they clearly mentioned they are going to list the WPP coin in 5 exchanges but till now it did not happen. Every time we are seeing excuses from them, we are busy with other things, but the thing is going slowly like other companies.

Not all projects can deliver on their promises during this time, but I am sure WPP will have a lot of news soon to bring investor confidence back. Maybe the value of WPP cannot make you happy, but I believe that when everything is resolved, WPP will soon reach a new high price in a short time. Personally, I consider this a very good opportunity to invest because this is a very good project in the long term.
I am still waiting, as long as I see the team is still actively developing, I still hope that this project still has hope. I'm also waiting for the latest listing on the market with pair BTC.
473  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: ✅[ANN] Tachyon Protocol - Protokol internet terdesentralisasi | 50 Juta Pengguna on: January 09, 2020, 05:52:50 AM
ATH nya saya lihat di CMC tgl 4, cuma $0.043 belum pernah nyentuh $0.06. btw harga token awalnya berapa ya ini?
sebagian besar tentu setelah dibagikan akan terjadi dump, tapi terkadang tergantung dari proyek itu sendiri, justru kalau bagus bakalan pada di hold, apalagi terdaftar di market besar dan juga volume harinnya lumayan besar. kalaupun dump itu momen bagus untuk buy.
Liatnya langsung di bithumb gan, ATH nya $0.06 lebih dan harga awalnya memang $0.06, kalo sekarang turun ke $0.04 saya rasa masih hal yang wajar
oh iya saya cek 0.06, jadi harga awal ICO nya $0.06 ya? maksudnya biar jadi patokan saya buy kalau turun ke $0.03 kan sekarang lagi bearish. wajar banget sih kalau turun, karena hampir semua altcoin saat ini mengalami dump.
474  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: ✅[ANN] Tachyon Protocol - Protokol internet terdesentralisasi | 50 Juta Pengguna on: January 09, 2020, 04:03:18 AM
itu untuk harga skrang entah nnti harga segitu akan bertahan atau malah naik lgi gan, soalnya tau sendiri kan setelah bouty di bagi pasti akan ada dumm juga dan moga aja bisa bertahan ini tachyon protocol

Jika setelah bounty dibagikan terjadi dump otomatis akan turun harga lah gan, dengan begitu akan sedikit pula yang diperoleh oleh setiap peserta bounty. $ 0,04 itu malah udah turun dari harga pertama listing mereka di Bithumb yaitu $ 0,06.

ATH nya saya lihat di CMC tgl 4, cuma $0.043 belum pernah nyentuh $0.06. btw harga token awalnya berapa ya ini?
sebagian besar tentu setelah dibagikan akan terjadi dump, tapi terkadang tergantung dari proyek itu sendiri, justru kalau bagus bakalan pada di hold, apalagi terdaftar di market besar dan juga volume harinnya lumayan besar. kalaupun dump itu momen bagus untuk buy.
475  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN]⭐[ICO] Pixby - Where Creativity Is Rewarded 💰 [IEO LIVE] on: January 08, 2020, 03:55:12 PM
kayanya ngga deh, soalnya saya tanya yang masuk 20 besar aja belum tentu listing di exchange coinkeepernya kalau tidak salah, tapi hanya di undang saja ke WBS.
percuma dong mereka yang vote masu 20 besar tapi gak bisa list disana, kayaknya setiap komunitas proyek harus lebih kompak lagi biar masuk top 10  btw nanti platform mereka ini menyediakan fiat kayak indodax apa gak ya?
saya lihat jumlah vote 25 masa iya sekali vote yang listing 20 langsung? liat aja sistem indodax gimana votingnya. tidak rugi juga kayanya, kan  mereka diundang ke WBS.
saya lihat pixby blm masuk top 25 ya? masuk 20 besar butuh 400an vote, ayo mana nih tim pixby kita vote.
476  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN][ICO] AIDUS - Global First Decentralized Funding Platform on: January 08, 2020, 02:46:53 PM
Harga Aid makin tenggelam order buy besar 1,9 juta sudah di cancel dan sekarang harga 0.000299 klo idr sekitar 3 rupiah,cukup mustahil mengingat harga Aid saat perdana listing hampir mencapai 10000 rupiah tapi saat ini sudah 3 rupiah. beberapa Admin di telegram sudah tidak aktif lagi hanya Admin 1 yang sering aktif..perlahan lahan proyek ini mulai mati perlahan lahan.
Ane ga bisa ngebayangin yg beli pas harganya masih ribuan sekarang tidak beberapa rupiah doang, kalaupun misal suatu saat harganya bakal pulih kayanya cukup memakan waktu yg lama (kalau proyeknya masih aktif dan pengembangannya yg bagus juga). Investor atau trader pun bakal mikir 2x sebelum beli.
kasus seperti ini bukan hanya pada koin ini saja,  ada banyak koin lain yang harganya tinggi sekarang sangat murah, memang itu resiko invest di crypto high risk high return,  maka dari itu kita harus bisa melihat potensi.
kalau untuk pulih antara susah atau lama sekali itu mungkin dengan catatan mereka bisa listing ke market yang lebih bagus daripada saat ini dan tentu dengan perkembangannya juga.
477  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much of your money only needed for gambling and others is for family on: January 08, 2020, 01:31:07 PM

what is that Free Money from friends?meaning from tips?are you living in gambling just from tips?cannot believe its true lol.

better spend those "Tips" for your family since i can feel that you dont have enough money to keep and never spent in gambling .never forget that gambling should me enjoyment and not for living .
there are many of my friends who gamble, when they get a big win, they always share with me, and of course I use it for gambling.
every gambling result I will always use again for gambling not for anything else and that is my principle. therefore I enjoy playing gambling with free money without fear of losing.
now i get it,it seems that you have a lot of friend that is involving in gambling?as you can still enjoy playing using freebies?no wonder that you are not becoming addicted because of that principle and i salute you for that ,at least your daily income is not risking into these Vices?

your control is really good as it is hard to achieve specially when we are sitting on the table and start to gamble,sometimes those free money if lose?we will start using our own money just to continue playing and in the end?we are losing even our safety money.

If she loses some money every day, I think that she can play gambling again because she loses all of his money in gambling games. But if she is not playing gambling every day, she will have another chance to playing gambling in the next days. We can play gambling from the freebies that we can get from the site too but the amount will not bigger. Anyways, we can still play gambling from that freebies.

My principle if the money I get from some friends is lost in gambling, I won't gamble again, even if I can but I don't want to risk putting money out of my pocket for gambling. of course I really enjoy because it has no burden when I lose.
478  Economy / Speculation / Re: $9k next week on: January 08, 2020, 12:24:22 PM
Looks like we are going to $9k next week Smiley

I'm fine with that but I don't think price would rise that easy, the rise was not abrupt so I am thinking slowly bitcoin price will rise but not $9K next week, that's too fast of a rise, and I'm afraid next move would be a dump as normally when there some kind of FOMO, whales do cash out easily.

Let's enjoy the price now, but let's not expect it will just go one way which is uptrend.

why too fast? even within a week the price of bitcoin is able to touch 8000, so the possibility of 9000 next week is very possible, especially now that it has touched 8300. FOMO might also occur because of the war that is currently happening
479  Economy / Gambling / Re: Profitable Poker Bot ready for use ! on: January 08, 2020, 04:32:29 AM
My questions is does using that bot will not against casinos terms and service because as far i know playing using bot for particular casinos isn't allowed and i think besides luck to playing poker required good skill and good mentally to facing unpredictable opponents and does your bot was ready to anticipate this
that's what I was surprisingly, poker is a game using strategy, how can they fight humans? I'm very curious about the bot, maybe I can try a trial if it's real or something.

No wonder it will not sell here since the poker game cannot be manipulated nor been predictable and how on earth he can gather those while we know the fact that the given cards are random and this game you will win if your skill set is high and luck is on your side. And I'm not curious if this one is true.

If it wasn't manipulated, then that's good for skilled players who played fairly because this poker game is recommended for them. Not suitable for non experience gambler, because they'll be nose bleeding on several conditions of the game. However if luck is with your end, with a factor of being expert I think you'll win by definite results as well.

but the problem is this bot can only be used on 1 site, and I'm curious what sites can use this poker bot?
480  Economy / Speculation / Re: Now that we touched $8,000, what's next? on: January 07, 2020, 11:42:22 AM
It has a good chance to defend the 8000... for now. But there's less than 3 weeks until the Chinese New Year, so I don't expect the euphoria last too long.
Are you sure Chinese New Year will have an effect? I think it will be the same as Christmas. there is no significant effect. but if this time continues to break above 10k it does not mean the influence of the Chinese new year, maybe the effect before halving will have a FOMO.
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