I gave them a positive rating although I had to wait for 30 hours getting my IPO coins.
I was going to, but I have no idea how, you have to fill in some complicated form and have to have done a transaction or something. I thought it was a thumbs up thumbs down thing like Youtube. It is not difficult. Just click on the word "trust" below username TheRealStandard. On this trust page scroll down, enter the risked amount of BTC, enter your comment and click submit. That is all. Yup! That's it. Edit: Just 2 ratings at their trust site: mine and ghibly's.
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I gave them a positive rating although I had to wait for 30 hours getting my IPO coins.
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That's IF he's a scammer. Why can you not accept that he may be telling 100% truth?
I am. I'm totally convinced he's telling 100% the truth. I'm a firmier believer than you. And that truth is he's running a ponzi xD I'm not going to explain it to you again. You go and read some pages ago if you want. If turns out he's not a scammer, will you delete the negative feedback and admit that you misdjuded him/them? +1
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Maybe he forgot to say "irony off". ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I don't do irony, I find my clothes lose their creases after I wear them for a while. I didn't mean you.
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I am. I'm totally convinced he's telling 100% the truth. I'm a firmier believer than you. And that truth is he's running a ponzi xD I'm not going to explain it to you again. You go and read some pages ago if you want.
You just contradicted yourself. Is English not your first language? Maybe he forgot to say "irony off". ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Maybe you are right about the risk, but (omg.... again.... ) the point is legit devs aren't try to hide the risk making you believe the opposite and bla bla bla all the other things. That's what scammer devs do and end up getting tagged.
That's IF he's a scammer. Why can you not accept that he may be telling 100% truth? Time will tell!
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Just my personal hate vs scammers: they make everything harder for everyone dwelling in this community.
And for the last time (then even a die hard arguer like me is giving up xD): the point is not if the coin will succeed or not, or if some are making a profit or not. A fraud can succeed and even go on for a long time and some people may profit (definetly the dev will, for example xD xD) but it's still a fraud, manipulating people into thinking it's a surefire investement (some will realize, like you, many will not, or even won't believe until too late).
And the proposer of a fraud is a scammer, and gets the deserved tag (this was the central point of the "flame"). Then you are free to try to ride the ponzi, or whatever you want.
Too late for me, the milk is spilt! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Betting 120$ is simply my business, whenever, wherever.
Agreed. Dev trying to scam people, however, is another matter and that's what led us tagging him. Not what you do with your money ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) As for banks being a ponzi: some may agree some others not but that's totally OT as we are not discussing in a thread opened by some JP Morgan's ceo. I don't know what is driving you to repeatedly warn the people of this coin. I presume your intents are honest. But for my part, I'm not going to give this coin a bad rating IN ADVANCE. Let's see if it succeeds or fails. In the latter case I will rate it like you, be sure.
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Ofc, that's what I said: big trust issues involved. You are taking the risk with big companies, not with a nobody anonymous new member, who is acting shady to begin with (puts up a Ponzi as first action, answers "nobody is holding anything" when someone rises doubts about his "exchange", which ofc is false).
And, to remark once more, this problem is a plus, the system being a ponzi worded as secure investment is enough of a scam and the reason for my negative.
Isn't even the banking system a Ponzi? And ~90% of the people have a bank account? Betting 120$ is simply my business, whenever, wherever.
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Aren't all exchanges centralized?
Sure they are. But in this case the dev is trying to bring STD to another exchange, Bittrex.
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It isn't my first investment and it won't be my last one. I spent 120$ hoping for a profit. If I'm going to lose who cares?
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P.s: And to clarify YES you can make a profit, like in all Ponzis, if you are not the last holding the bag, but it's GAMBLING and the risk should be made clear and the thread posted in the gambling section (there are some "legit" ponzis in the gambling section of this forum, in fact, where all of this is clearly stated). Trying to pass a Ponzi gamble as a secure investement is a deceiving SCAM. Holding 100% of the premine and practically forcing to buy the coin directly from him only adds more shady layers to the scam. Hope I have made it completely clear by now.
Nobody forced me to invest. I'm fully responsible for either the wins and the losses. Most people here know what they are doing.
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So where's the difference? Even in a free market prizes can rise and fall.
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I just gave it a try. If the coin succeeds I'll take the profit. If it flops I can easiy afford it. That's trading.
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Bittrex still happening?
Yes, what happened to that? I use Bittrex for all my new coins. That's crucial for traders: bring STD to a couple of exchanges. From Richie of bittrex: "Wallet has been added... waiting for my DB guy to get the backend set up... Hopefully later today." Good news!
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Bittrex still happening?
Yes, what happened to that? I use Bittrex for all my new coins. That's crucial for traders: bring STD to a couple of exchanges.
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People may sell if the other exchanges price is greater than GER
Yes, you are correct. And the people who bought at that price won't sell lower than what they bought, because they know that price can only go up, this will create a new support level. It will keep going on until the buy pressure is too large and it breaks through the store selling price. And when the SSP is broken, the new SSP will be at lease 2x the previous SSP. The GER will also be doubled, when GER is doubled, it creates another solid buy support level at double price. Let's hope you are right. Currently there's VERY low volume.
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What is the exchange rate of STD/BTC?
Store selling prize: ~32 satoshis Guaranteed exchange rate: 4 satoshis
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Finally got my IPO coins, after 30 hours. Thanks anyway.
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I am on position 33 of the evaluation IPO pre -investor of more then 0.001 BTC provider GER supporter AMC & MMS supplier SSP buyer and really wonder when I get my calculated 528000 std. transferred to my wallet.
Because by holding both you should provide APR by playing with my fund ( currently I don't have the invested BTC nor the STD in my hand which actually doubles my loss....)
So when can I expect the transfer?
Same here. Neither BTC nor STD. I am at position 15 of the IPO investors. It starts to get boring!
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