Google analytics report?
I dont use google analytics its too complicated and sometimes not very accurate. Google analytics counts in crawlets, bots and other junk visitors sometimes. Analytics specifically DOESN'T count any of those things you listed. Analytics is by far the most accurate traffic counter there is. |
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So why not match the price with ebay then?
The dollar has no value to you either way if you wanted to exchange that right? Its better to take a sale then having none.
Not understanding this, either. Most people sell things CHEAPER than eBay (hint: no fees). I've never seen anyone say they want to charge MORE than eBay for something. In that case, it's safer to just get it through eBay. Not to mention saving money.i offer escrow whit no problem, why ebay it's safer? i sell online a lot of things and it's been years now, I have my experience in this field Because escrow is trusting a third party. eBay *almost always* sides with the buyer. I don't care about your experience or what you've sold online or how much. I've done the same but it doesn't change the fact that Amazon/eBay are two of the safest places to buy from (solely because the buyer almost always wins). if you use paypal , you're still giving confidence to a third party , no? correct me if I'm wrong PayPal sides with the buyers. It's a well-known fact. An escrow would take both stories and decide (i.e., if you prove something was delivered, escrow would deliver the funds -- PayPal can have delivery proof and STILL give the buyer a refund, lol). |
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So why not match the price with ebay then?
The dollar has no value to you either way if you wanted to exchange that right? Its better to take a sale then having none.
Not understanding this, either. Most people sell things CHEAPER than eBay (hint: no fees). I've never seen anyone say they want to charge MORE than eBay for something. In that case, it's safer to just get it through eBay. Not to mention saving money.i offer escrow whit no problem, why ebay it's safer? i sell online a lot of things and it's been years now, I have my experience in this field Because escrow is trusting a third party. eBay *almost always* sides with the buyer. I don't care about your experience or what you've sold online or how much. I've done the same but it doesn't change the fact that Amazon/eBay are two of the safest places to buy from (solely because the buyer almost always wins). |
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So why not match the price with ebay then?
The dollar has no value to you either way if you wanted to exchange that right? Its better to take a sale then having none.
Not understanding this, either. Most people sell things CHEAPER than eBay (hint: no fees). I've never seen anyone say they want to charge MORE than eBay for something. In that case, it's safer to just get it through eBay. Not to mention saving money. |
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One of the few really intriguing offers on these forums. Not quite something that fits me, but I wanted to say great job actually explaining things. Most people around here would just say "need money for mining pls invest 35btc."
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Ad prices are WAY too high. All but ~60 of your hits were from fake traffic this time...
What are you talking about:  Yes there were some fake traffic but more like 10-15%, the rest of it is genuine. Click on the "Incoming traffic -> Came From" and you will see. No referring link means they didn't go through any other site to get to yours. Considering you had 8 visits and that magically jumped up to hundreds, with NO referral, we can deduce that the traffic came from one of the MANY traffic exchanges that remove referrers before forwarding. I'm sure that most users don't type in your address manually, and don't copy the URL to another window to go there -- they would just click the link. Are you new to this area or something? |
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About the Investment Fund:The site owner claims that his strategy can earn up to 20% per day; that is better than any trading system! Since the site owner promises to use his own money to demonstrate the strategy in person, I will travel to Las Vegas to do so. I will pay for his course only once I have seen the success with my own eyes. This strategy could win BIG and I perceive the risk to be small. The site has been around for 6 years and so far I have not found any complaints. About me:I love to trade Peer-to-Peer and I have thousands of satisfied customers-- see my page on LocalBitcoins; although I have some bad debts on this forum (I am working on it), I am obviously a reliable individual. I will determine the odds of success before risking any of your hard-earned money, and I am very well-qualified to ensure the success of this venture. Returns on Investment:Once I learn the strategy, anyone who invested at least $250 will have that information disclosed to them (by phone or email). This means that you save $1,250 on tuition costs.My plan is to issue colored coins for every $1 invested; I will return 50% of the profits from this strategy to investors at the end of each day. Returns are paid as daily dividends until all shares are bought back. Payout Structure:Up to $5,000 Pledged or Funded: 'A' Shares are bought back at $3 per share OR three times the bitcoin amount, whichever is greater. Over $5,000 Pledged or Funded: 'B' Shares are bought back at $2 per share OR two times the bitcoin amount, whichever is greater. If $5,000 is funded, $2,500 must be spent on tuition; that leaves $2,500 in "working capital" earning 20% each day; shareholders receive half of the profits, so $250 is estimated to be repaid each day (assuming that the strategy will always net a profit by the end of the day). If for some reason the strategy fails to return a profit on any day, the fund will be liquidated to make investors whole again and buy back the shares as much as possible. If you would like to pledge funds, please express your interest here or in private message; I will launch the IPO as soon as $5,000 is pledged. Thanks for reading; Happy trading!  bl4kjaguar you dont need to pay 2 500$ to learn a winning baccarat system, the information is freely avaliable already, card counting for Panda 8 and Dragon 7 on the $100 level has the expected profit of 62.70$ per hour so at 12hrs a day 365 day, then the expected yearly profit is 274 626$. Casinos in the USA have a nasty habit of banning winning players thou but if you have any use for the sytem to save you the 2 500$ tuition cost, information is avaliable here for example: http://wizardofodds.com/games/baccarat/appendix/8/You realize you're talking about a side bet, which means you have to match it (most casinos) in the main bet as well, which has a -ev? If you run all the numbers, the house still wins. You can't just take a side bet and claim that the entire thing is profitable -- that's asinine. It's like taking Blackjack and saying "I found a way to get +ev on insurance, so my method is a sure winner!" No. |
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Ad prices are WAY too high. All but ~60 of your hits were from fake traffic this time...
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I second the escrow request. I may be willing to both join and escrow it.
Definitely interested in seeing how it pans out -- it's a great idea in concept (much alike pool mining instead of solo mining). So if nothing else, huge +1 for a new concept.
If participants want I can do payout every 2 days or whenever they request. also as maintained in OP, daily affiliate staticts will shared with enrolled users and whenever they want to request payout they can. thanks for liking my idea, its good for participants to earn extra money without any efforts.group work and profit sharing dont do the same as what mirjangka is doing. you are not related to the site or whatever. escrow the funds or this is just another scam to get free referrals This. I can't fathom pushing people to someone else's link. By the time we find out if it's legit or not, you'll already have the referrals and we won't. The only way I can see this working is if you are: 1) Escrowing funds or 2) Paying up-front as a sort of retainer (which I don't see being viable here) |
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For So much traffic you need to spend about 20 bux a day which i dont think would be payable by you . If you are still looking for it you can try high traffic sites.
Uh why wouldn't i be able to pay it? lmao and 20 bucks a day lmao i can spend 20 bucks and just get 100k hits in 10 days. 2k hits a day isnt even close to 20 bucks a day. Low-quality hits, sure. Hell, most CPM-only networks would offer a much higher rate than that, without having to deal with chasing after payments, :p. Real traffic on a successful site (especially in the gambling niche) you're looking at probably $3.50 CPM minimum ($350/100k hits). Technically, most gambling sites should be able to achieve more than this. Do note, however, that this rate is based on multiple ad slots (i.e. 5-6 per page) so if you were buying one, it'd be more like 70 or so. |
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may you escrow funds to be sure you will pay? or you only want free referrals?
I second the escrow request. I may be willing to both join and escrow it. Definitely interested in seeing how it pans out -- it's a great idea in concept (much alike pool mining instead of solo mining). So if nothing else, huge +1 for a new concept. |
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Hey Eric!
So after doing some research, I decided to entrust some BTC with HaoBTC!
I do have a couple of concerns I'd like to voice, though, publicly so others can see the answers as well:
1) If the mining business goes down or otherwise becomes unprofitable (such is the case with this largely unknown variable), would you just drop the APY to 0%? Are there any other ways you're earning money off deposits right now?
2) Are the funds somehow guaranteed? I find this hard to fathom when depositors can withdraw at any minute (meaning that the funds can't all be tied up, otherwise people couldn't all withdraw). So can you please give a bit more information on how all of this works out in terms of risk involved?
Hi, Our pleasure to have you! I feel that I don't have all the answers ready but will try to address your concerns as much as I can: While at the moment we make money mostly through mining, we are exploring alternatives that can potentially generate non-mining revenue. For example, we recently launched a service allowing users (right now only Chinese banks supported) to trade bitcoins and we charge a 0.1% commission. This has generated a small but growing income. If the mining profitability diminishes but we manage to find replacements, we will continue to operate our Banking service and pay out interest. The interest rate is pretty much dependent on market competition and that we drop it to 0 is extremely low. If the company fails, the plan - not sure how official it is, but the CEO suggested at one point that all partners should take jobs and pay back the debt using their future income - I personally have no objections and think all the big name investment banks should do the same. HaoBTC pretty much operates like a fractional-reserve bank (FRB) at the moment, and like all FRBs, it works on the assumption that all depositors won't withdraw at the same time. If we run out of reserve in a bank run scenario, one alternative is to borrow from the big exchanges, which have been giving loans for about 30 percent p.a. Are the funds somehow guaranteed? Yes and no. It is not guaranteed by the law or state institutions, because there is little to no legislation in the space - not in China and not that I am aware of. It is guaranteed by our reputation and the scrutiny of users, esp. the Chinese ones. We make the commitment to our users that as long as the company exist, we will honor our obligations - this is true for the Chinese users and foreigners alike. If some unforeseeable events struck and the worst happened, in principle we will try to pay back the debt to the best of our ability - we don't have a specific plan but will publicize it once we do. We have been considering bringing a third-party insurer onboard, but to be honest, it is hard to find one willing to provide such service and I don't think this is likely to happen soon. Great answers! Thanks,  . I also wanted to point out that some information on the site should ideally be translated to English as well, such as the questions page. I used Google Translate to read what it said, but translating it properly may help give ease of mind to English speakers. |
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Hey, fellow HYPER peeps. I wanted to let you all know in advance that I'm (finally) getting Cryptoplace off the ground. I've found a direction to take it in, and it's going to benefit things like HYPER in the process! Essentially, it's a service-based review/news site, evaluating the various projects that are out there. And since HYPER is an altcoin, it will be getting its very own section (at this point I'm planning to make HYPER the first one that I launch as part of the project).
I'm not 100% sure how long it'll take me to finish the site and get it to a state that I like, but I'm pushing towards getting it finished within the next 3-4 days. In any case, I'm going to be doing what I can to help shed light on HYPER's different projects! Things like Dragon Knights, for example.
I want to thank all of you for being awesome, and especially people like HYPERfuture. The people right here are one of the things that really pushed me towards making this site happen, and I hope we all flourish.
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Signed up to check it out, finally. Are there any freerolls here?
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I have a degree of 'trust' in Coinbase insofar as I don't think they will rip me off. That mostly because I could at least make a credible stab at suing their asses off and they have deep-ish pockets complements of various angel investors and such.
Anyone who has been paying attention and who is modestly knowledgeable about things should have no surprises that they have their entire heads completely within the sphincter of the Feds. It is entirely expected and I don't hold it against them at all. In some ways it is actually why I chose to use them.
I predicted many times that the business model Coinbase is going for is to spy on schools of minnows and sell out to a bank or tech giant at the most opportune time. Larger early-ish adopter types are a distinct liability for this reasons. I've not done a transaction through them for a year, but even back then they were getting antsy. And I'm hardly a big fish compared to genuine early adopters I don't imagine. When they interrogated me I offered that they should have the technical prowess to validate that my BTC came from Tradehill. That seemed to have gotten them off my back but I expect I'll be shut down if/when I do any more activity of any consequence. I think I remember Greg Maxwell himself mentioning that they shut him down. Amazing. Probably one would have to be a big investor in their company to do any volume through them at this point.
If you're going to go through the same miserable process you deal with using fiat then explain to me why I should use Bitcoin? People should reward exchanges and businesses like BTCe that provide good service and are beholding to no one and shun businesses that act like a branch of the government like Coinbase. Perhaps Bitcoin shouldn't be used by people in the American nanny state. Maybe a new coin for them called Americoin. They can build it with blacklisting, tracking, Americoin gps locator apps from a certified App Store, direct reporting of your daily expenditures to the IRS, coins that vaporize if you use them at an unapproved business, etc. Why use Bitcoin instead? Instant, irreversible transfers. The anonymity has nothing to do with it for me. It's the ability to pay people without losing huge chunks due to fees. Send $10 in PayPal? That's like $1 in fees. Same in Bitcoin? Two cents. Sending $100 in PayPal? That's $5.30 or so in fees. Bitcoin? Still two cents. Someone pays me in PayPal? They get pissed off down the road and do a chargeback. Someone pays me in Bitcoin? It's mine. |
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I own hundreds of poker sites -- you're absolutely right. I was hoping it may be a legitimate opportunity -- not an overpriced attempt at tricking people with too much money into handing it over for a project that simply hasn't proven itself. Hell, I even took the time to read every. single. post. The information being requested is ignored time after time. But I like how you single me out. It makes me feel special.
I wouldn't own a site for free ... what a sh*ty business. (Congrats to you.) I DO like people spending their money promoting sh*ty sites. OP isn't, as you claim, tricking anybody to hand anything over. 'Valuaton' is a fancy term for 'Wild-assed Guess' (WAG). Any 'investor' making decisions based on OP's WAG shouldn't have money in the first place ... OP is the only person with the information potential investors are interested in. The only. Read this again: the only. Just like you wouldn't hit up a VC/bank and say "I need a loan for x business. Don't ask for financials, figure that shit out yourself," it shouldn't happen here. None of us know his business as well as he does, hence the push to supply information. Nobody can make an informed decision without information. Information is key. FWIW, this is an area I'm highly interested in. At one point I was going to run my own site, but decided against it as I don't have the technical know-how server-wise and I don't personally know the laws regarding legality and such. In the gambling arena, poker is the only type of site I'd be interested in a long-term ownership stake in. |
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FWIW, anyone interested in reading this, it's not a bad offer. Doesn't quite fit what I personally deal with, but definitely worth looking into, IMO!
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Hey Eric!
So after doing some research, I decided to entrust some BTC with HaoBTC!
I do have a couple of concerns I'd like to voice, though, publicly so others can see the answers as well:
1) If the mining business goes down or otherwise becomes unprofitable (such is the case with this largely unknown variable), would you just drop the APY to 0%? Are there any other ways you're earning money off deposits right now?
2) Are the funds somehow guaranteed? I find this hard to fathom when depositors can withdraw at any minute (meaning that the funds can't all be tied up, otherwise people couldn't all withdraw). So can you please give a bit more information on how all of this works out in terms of risk involved?
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Please do yourself a favor if you actually want this to succeed: supply the information that's being asked for. Hard, factual data -- not assumptions and false claims of grandeur.
You are clearly not interested in this offer, so why are you even posting? There is essentially zero revenue. But you want to beat him up for 'hard data.' You are not being honest with this board Ranlo. It just smells like you have a competitive interest and don't want a new site promoting. Do us all a favor and STFU. PM is a highly speculative opportunity. There may be someone with some spare coin, who wants an inside view on the marketing of a btc poker site, and are happy to consider this, knowing fully well that the failure rate for new btc poker sites must be north of 90%. It is plain that person is not you Ranlo, so move along. I own hundreds of poker sites -- you're absolutely right. I was hoping it may be a legitimate opportunity -- not an overpriced attempt at tricking people with too much money into handing it over for a project that simply hasn't proven itself. Hell, I even took the time to read every. single. post. The information being requested is ignored time after time. But I like how you single me out. It makes me feel special. |
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If the guy knew how to make a killing, he wouldn't be selling his "trick" to anyone. That's a promise. It would result in three things:
1) The trick would get to casinos and it would be shut down. There are absolutely no doubts here
2) He would be watering down his own profits
3) People WOULD share it. That's an absolute would. So his course would become worthless
Quit trying to find "get rich quick" shit and pay back your debts. I've been nice enough to not hit you with negative trust yet for what you owe me, but you're trying to follow down the same path that got you in this shit to begin with.
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