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4621  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: @RogerVer lets make a deal. At least 60k, my BTU for your BTC. on: March 22, 2017, 10:42:57 PM
If it pressures BU to make improvements, I reserve the right reevaluate the transaction. Win because at least the combined value will be higher.
I would not take this deal. This clause essentially allows you to back out of the deal if, closer to an actual fork it is clear that BU will be superior to Core, and does not allow Ver a similar out.

You are basically asking for a free put option on BU.
4622  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: @RogerVer lets make a deal. At least 60k, my BTU for your BTC. on: March 22, 2017, 04:59:41 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/60ozkh/rogerver_lets_make_a_deal_1_for_1_trade_at_least/

bitcoin-cli signmessage 19Mz2o9RDABT74SA9njZqMtJXKEzj2qUoH '@RogerVer lets make a deal, 1 for 1 trade. At least 60k, possibly up to 130k, my BTU for your BTC.'
H9ed6z5RgdThRxXXqePmtJbaK1pGvoy6e+aiwUPD6pkrJ6d6TBchOu5OQLEbgq/15YRjcOUC+kMrGVfszUXV5Wc=


Whoah, thats a shit ton of coins.

I'd be lucky if i could touch that many coins in my entire lifetime, lmao.

I don't think that Roger will take the offer, because personally I believe that bitcoin core will outvalue bitcoin unlimited after the hard fork. Simply because there are more nodes for BTC than BTU currently, however it could change.

Right now on Bitfinex there are BTU futures available. However they are only worth 0.25 right now.

Would be interesting to see what Roger comes up with.
Please do not read any of this thread, nor research the current trading prices of trading pairs that you are quoting prior to posting here.
4623  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: @RogerVer lets make a deal. At least 60k, my BTU for your BTC. on: March 22, 2017, 12:08:10 AM
Why would he be willing to do a 1 for 1 trade?

Loaded is offering much better terms for a BU supporter. He says:

Quote
No split, no transaction. If there is a split, I'd love to double up.

while the terms on bitfinex mean you lose your money if there's no split. Since it's highly unlikely there's going to be a split, the bitfinex trade is pretty insanely risky even for a BU believer
Yes there is a risk of no split (or that core will change the code in their repository after a split to be compatible with BU) on bitfinex, however I don't think that accounts for all of the discrepancy in price.

The executives at the various exchanges seem to believe that BU initiating a HF to be increasingly possible. The recently found blocks are pointing to momentum for BU.

I cannot predict the future, however I would not write off the possibility of a fork, as doing so would be reckless.

This kind of deal would be nearly impossible for either party to enforce, and there is the possibility that both parties would not even have the potential to be able fulfill their obligations in the event of a split because the loosing chain is likely to quickly die off
4624  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: @RogerVer lets make a deal. At least 60k, my BTU for your BTC. on: March 21, 2017, 11:44:33 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/60ozkh/rogerver_lets_make_a_deal_1_for_1_trade_at_least/

bitcoin-cli signmessage 19Mz2o9RDABT74SA9njZqMtJXKEzj2qUoH '@RogerVer lets make a deal, 1 for 1 trade. At least 60k, possibly up to 130k, my BTU for your BTC.'
H9ed6z5RgdThRxXXqePmtJbaK1pGvoy6e+aiwUPD6pkrJ6d6TBchOu5OQLEbgq/15YRjcOUC+kMrGVfszUXV5Wc=
Verified.

Why would he be willing to do a 1 for 1 trade? The market rate on bitfinex (which I am fairly confident that you use) for BTU is 0.2102 while the market rate for BCC 0.758, both in terms of BTC. So for this to be a fair trade, you would need to offer him 3.6 BTU for every 1 BCC that ver gives you.


edit: no longer confident you use bitfinex; my prior presumption was due to a coinjoin transaction. It does however look like you might have withdrawn 50,000BTC from SilkRoad in Sept 2012, worth ~$610,000 at the time, or you may have purchased some coins from someone who did this.

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4625  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell on: March 19, 2017, 11:33:53 PM
I think by "uninteresting" they mean "unprofitable"
4626  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: safest way to accept unconfirmed transactions on: March 19, 2017, 09:08:12 PM
How diverse is your product base? -- if not very diverse then having a few extra products might not cause very much financial harm.

Do you have a way of tracking if someone is a repeat customer (also are your customers' identities verified)? -- If so, then you can assign each customer a risk profile based on their prior behavior. For example, a customer who has ordered from you multiple times and that has not ever had any kind of failed payment/deposit will probably have a higher chance of having their transaction confirm (or a transaction in the appropriate amount) than a customer who has a history of failed payments/deposits. Also if you have done business with someone many times in the past (and earned profit from this person), then the risk of someone trying to cause you financial harm would be low.

What you are describing sounds very similar to how Gemini will pre-credit some Bitcoin deposits for trading nearly immidiately after receiving the transaction. If this is something similar to what you are trying to implement (or improve), then you can look at the total value of the account verses the value of the deposit. If the deposit is under a certain percentage of the account's balance, then the amount under the certain percentage threshold might be able to be excluded from the total credit risk.
4627  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Does public key reveal that transactions end up in the same wallet ? on: March 19, 2017, 07:56:29 PM
I think the terminology that you are using is not quite correct.

If you send three transactions from addresses that you control to three different addresses controlled by a single entity, then it may be possible to reasonably conclude that either the same entity sent all three transactions, that the same entity received all three transactions, or both, depending on the circumstances.

If the transactions that you send use more than one input, then it can usually be reasonably concluded which address is a change address, especially long after subsequent outputs have been spent. If two inputs are change addresses, then it is possible to reasonably conclude that a single entity controls a larger cluster of addresses than individual transactions might suggest.

If in one transaction, you send BTC to two different entities and no change address, it is sometimes reasonable to conclude this fact, and exclude both entities from being the owner of the sending addresses.

There are specialized tracking companies that do look at the blockchain that use even more advanced analytics (more specifically conclusions derived from these analytics techniques).
4628  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Importing Private Keys on: March 19, 2017, 06:55:22 PM
IIRC, an address being highlighted in red means that BTC ended up in a change address that is expected to receive BTC after the next change address that is expected to receive change from a transaction spent from your wallet.

This could be an indication that a transaction that you sent (that includes a change address) failed to confirm and has dropped from the electrum server's mempool that you are using for whatever reason. It could also be an indication that you directed someone to send BTC to a change address in your wallet that is not the next change address in line to be used.
4629  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Segregated Witlessness on: March 18, 2017, 10:52:06 PM
I have news for you: spammers do not have to limit themselves to increasing the number of transactions they can do by four measly times. They can multiply their transactions by 10x or 100x or 1000x or whatever crazy multiple they want. I can sit at my computer and send a billion transactions into the pool if I want to spend my afternoon doing that.
Increasing the max block size will make it exponentially more expensive for spammers to continue spamming the network. Also as long as the max block size is sufficiently higher than the natural amount of transactions, spamming the network with transactions will be unprofitable to a small miner.   
4630  Other / Meta / Re: wasn't there an exploit through avatars? fixed? on: March 18, 2017, 08:04:46 PM
Who has their avatar hosted on a non-bitcointalk website? What domain is it hosted on?

as it is seen in the screenshot it is on blogspot and 38659 is the user id.
as i said it is a very old account from 2011 (so probably set it back then) and has been activated recently after 2 years.
This has been fixed.
4631  Other / Meta / Re: wasn't there an exploit through avatars? fixed? on: March 18, 2017, 06:36:19 AM
Hmmm, it looks like I had to access http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-d0Ippz-2CN0/TWcO_2wZOiI/AAAAAAAAFZA/ZkU-bL3fUAk/s1600/eagle-4.jpg in order to view his profile. I think this could possible leak information about anyone who views his profile or a page that he posted in.

I will message theymos about this.
4632  Other / Meta / Re: wasn't there an exploit through avatars? fixed? on: March 18, 2017, 06:03:15 AM
Who has their avatar hosted on a non-bitcointalk website? What domain is it hosted on?
4633  Other / Meta / Re: BitCoinTalk.PW (Bitcointalk Proxy Website) on: March 18, 2017, 03:41:25 AM
In regards to profiles, the site will need to view profiles one at a time the same way it would originally get this information. It might know to check the profile if it sees a new/edited post by you, which would reduce the number of times each profile would get checked.

That wouldn't help if their trust score changes.
Your site uses the Default Trust network to calculate trust scores. If this is what you want to do, then you can have your site determine who is in the DefaultTrust network by going to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust and collecting a list of accounts that have a number of zero or greater from an account that only had DefaultTrust in it's trust list, and the trust depth set to 2. From there, your site will only need to parse the sent trust ratings of the few hundred people who are in the DefaultTrust network. The formula to calculate a trust rating is public, so your site should be able to calculate trust ratings without having to visit everyone's profile. Although it might get confused if someone receives their first negative trust rating on the same day that they receive a positive trust rating, so in these instances, you can have your site visit the person's profile to check the ordering of the received trust ratings.

edit: formula for trust ratings --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066857.0
4634  Other / Meta / Re: BitCoinTalk.PW (Bitcointalk Proxy Website) on: March 18, 2017, 03:17:26 AM
No, the databases are not the same. Theymos does not operate the other site. What the other site is doing is that it is constantly checking Bitcointalk for changes to any part of the site (threads, profiles, etc.) and then mirroring that exactly.

How?

I can understand how it gets new posts, but how does it know when an old post is edited?

My site (in my signature) has to rescrape the pages to get new information, and some pages I don't rescrape for months since they never change.


If you are logged in, if you read a thread, and a post in that thread subsequently gets updated, that thread will show up as being unread (but will not show up in your watchlist). Once all threads get archived/saved, the site can simply check for unread threads.

In regards to profiles, the site will need to view profiles one at a time the same way it would originally get this information. It might know to check the profile if it sees a new/edited post by you, which would reduce the number of times each profile would get checked.
4635  Other / Meta / Re: BitCoinTalk.PW (Bitcointalk Proxy Website) on: March 18, 2017, 02:29:49 AM
There are many of these kinds of sites, probably hundreds. Most of them are most likely trying to host advertisements without having any original content, although some of these are probably also phishing sites and it is never going to be safe entering your password onto any of these sites.
4636  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Exchanges Unveil Emergency Hard Fork Contingency Plan on: March 18, 2017, 01:00:40 AM
I agree that there should be something to prevent replay attacks on the protocol level, both for the exchanges' sake, and for the protection of the end user.

Used properly, the block size itself can be leveraged to disassociate coins between chains.

I can send a transaction (or a chain of them) which would take ages to confirm on the existing chain, yet on a big block chain it should confirm in the next block. I then RBF on the existing chain to a different address under my control. Voila, easy disassociation.

There is also mining reward "taint", although you have to actually get some of it to use it. Once you've tainted your coins though, they can be used to taint others, and so on.
Yes, exchanges (and users) could send some of their BTC to one address on BU, have that transaction confirm, then double spend that transaction spending those blockstream coins to a second address with a high enough fee for it to confirm, and subsequently have each transaction be dependent on each of those non-compatible transactions . Unfortunately that could turn out to be very expensive and impractical, especially if many people are trying to do this at nearly the same time, especially considering that many exchange customers will not like delays in processing withdrawals.

If there was something in the BU protocol that makes a BU transaction not compatible with a blockstream coin transaction, then this would solve the problem.
4637  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Exchanges Unveil Emergency Hard Fork Contingency Plan on: March 18, 2017, 12:33:39 AM
This is probably the best way to handle things. Once BU activates, the market will be able to decide which chain will emerge as the "winner" as the price will give the miners an incentive to mine on the higher priced coin.

In regards to what "blockstream coin" and "bitcoin unlimited" are called on the exchanges, I really do not think this matters, even if exchanges call either of them something other than Bitcoin for a long time. Although it is very likely that one chain will very quickly die due to the incentives associated with mining and the time it takes for the difficulty to recalculate.

I agree that there should be something to prevent replay attacks on the protocol level, both for the exchanges' sake, and for the protection of the end user. Although as mentioned above, one chain will likely die, and if this happens, replay attacks will be more or less a non-issue.
4638  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Casascius issues - Dollar Premium estimates - all in one place.... on: March 17, 2017, 01:13:05 AM

0.1 BTC Silver
2013
Funded 800
Redeemed 8
Active 792

Fairly scarce. At a guess I would say these should command something like a US$ 200 premium over the BTC content.
I don't think I have ever seen a cas dime sell for 0.37BTC...
4639  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Conflict of interest on: March 16, 2017, 10:06:36 PM
"The developers" do not exist. You mean the core project which has it's own developers. Their work may be adopted, but that is a consensus issue and is not their decision. Anyone with an idea to improve bitcoin is welcome to write code and let the bitcoin community make their choice about it's merit. So for me there is no conflict of interest because they do not represent bitcoin, they only represent themselves.
Those who work for Blockstream can effectively block any proposal that does not benefit their interests. Or at least make it very significantly more difficult to get said proposal to get adopted. This effectively gives users the choice between the status quo and what those who work for Blockstream proposes. If the status quo is not what the community wants (like as is the case currently), then the community has little choice other than adopt what Blockstream wants.   
4640  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [$1.5k Daily] Looking to partner up with a BITCOIN supplier from USA on: March 16, 2017, 02:40:32 AM
Vouch as requested ,dealed with OP earlier.
You accepted PayPal from him?
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