Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[JimboToronto]

Can we please have some train gif's and meme's please  

It's too early for that yet. Let's get back to an ATH first.  

Remember, Bitcoin was being written off as being practically dead a few days ago.

For now, let's suffice with a dead cat bounce pic.



 

[PoolMinor]

Who gives a shit what I want?  It does not matter, and I am not saying what I want.  


...because what I want does not matter.  

It's about time you realized this, now why are you still in this thread?

[york780]

Thats true. I invested in Ehtereum in 2016 and bought 230 Ethereum because i was thinking muh smart contracts thats cool! But when i did some more research i saw how scam-like ethereum really is. Stil no regrets that i sold it at 11 dollars. Traded it for some 2 nice bitcoins. Thats now 5000$ for 1 BTC that i payed for 

[soullyG]

[york780]

No its easy to make money with them. Just buy in 5 different altcoins with the same ammount of money. Wait for a pump, convert it into bitcoin and hold. But you are screwed when bitcoin is on a moon trip and your altcoin wont grow more in % than bitcoin. There is NOT A SINGLE altcoin for the long term. Just pump and dump. You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave - hotel california : the eagles

[gembitz]

Blocksize was never meant to be some resource that could be controlled by anybody.

Let Bitcoin scale already.

Make Bitcoin Great Again!

Finally, you make one out of three points that makes some sense.  

1mb blocksize limits is the current state of bitcoin.. that is correct, and bitcoin was not meant to be easily changed.  Therefore, 1mb blocksize limits seem to be the status quo going forward until there is some kind of convincing evidence and/or argument(s) that allows for it to be adapted in some kind of way, whether that is through seg wit or blocksize increases or any other "scaling" way forward.

What's your angle?

My angle meaning what?

I already stated what I thought, no?

In essence, I agree with any point that the current bitcoin system is established as a secure decentralized immutable way to store and transfer value.  If what bitcoin "is" is undermined by some kind of centralized system or manipulation or FUD that allows for such undermining of bitcoin "as it is", then that would be problematic.  

My angle remains that XT, Classic and now BU are either aimed or have effects that are attempting to undermine bitcoin "as is"... ... so we will see how all of that plays out, and whether bitcoin is going to be able to preserve its value in one form or another regarding a secure decentralized and immutable system that allows for the storage and transferring of value

Okay let's remove any possibility of ambiguity then.

Are you against increasing the transfer capacity of the bitcoin network, yes or no? Just yes or no.

no

So why do you want to stay at the current 1 MB? You can't have it both ways.

First of all.  You edited out my answer.  

Second of all, you are planting assumptions about my position based on information that I did not provide.

In other words, you are not really attempting to engage in any kind of meaningful interaction but instead wanting to disseminate your own talking points and to falsely attribute positions to others (isn't that called, creation of a strawman?)

well he does have a point.. it is hard to interact with people who want to stay at the 1MB block size for obvious reasons.

OKAY WILL WHOEVER IS FOR A 1MB LIMIT PLEASE STEP FORWARD I WILL PERSONALLY SMACK YOU UPSIDE THE HEAD! :-D LOLZZZ

[gembitz]

If you ignore Alt coins you are missing a wealth creation strategy. I won't go on further as this is about bitcoin but never say never to alt coins.

Wealth creation strategy? LOL.

Bitcoin is already a fairly risky gamble on a disruptive technology. Alt-coins? That's like playing Russian roulette but only one chamber is empty.

^%95 of these are simply forks of satoshis' dream so you cannot discount they are part of the diaspora of BTC sector ~ **:-D

[PaymyBills]

We just see a halving efects, and we have a wave of notices about btc, like 1000% than few years ago. btc will rise like a bitch

[JayJuanGee]

Who gives a shit what I want?  It does not matter, and I am not saying what I want.  


...because what I want does not matter.  

It's about time you realized this, now why are you still in this thread?

this goes to show how your lines of logic tend to be crossed.

A person can participate in a thread, such as this in order to learn and to share ideas (and yeah, sure to persuade), but in the overall scheme of things, I am attempt to learn about bitcoin for what it is and to apply trading practices for what it is or what it is going to be.


that is a different perspective than someone who is trying to assert that bitcoin is broken and we need to fix it in an emergency by taking some stupid ass eradic course to increase the blocksize limit (when it is not necessary)....

So, anyhow, what I want does not matter in terms of the blocksize limit because I will buy, sell according to whether there are big blocks or small blocks or some other variation of blocks.

[JayJuanGee]

Blocksize was never meant to be some resource that could be controlled by anybody.

Let Bitcoin scale already.

Make Bitcoin Great Again!

Finally, you make one out of three points that makes some sense.  

1mb blocksize limits is the current state of bitcoin.. that is correct, and bitcoin was not meant to be easily changed.  Therefore, 1mb blocksize limits seem to be the status quo going forward until there is some kind of convincing evidence and/or argument(s) that allows for it to be adapted in some kind of way, whether that is through seg wit or blocksize increases or any other "scaling" way forward.

What's your angle?

My angle meaning what?

I already stated what I thought, no?

In essence, I agree with any point that the current bitcoin system is established as a secure decentralized immutable way to store and transfer value.  If what bitcoin "is" is undermined by some kind of centralized system or manipulation or FUD that allows for such undermining of bitcoin "as it is", then that would be problematic.  

My angle remains that XT, Classic and now BU are either aimed or have effects that are attempting to undermine bitcoin "as is"... ... so we will see how all of that plays out, and whether bitcoin is going to be able to preserve its value in one form or another regarding a secure decentralized and immutable system that allows for the storage and transferring of value

Okay let's remove any possibility of ambiguity then.

Are you against increasing the transfer capacity of the bitcoin network, yes or no? Just yes or no.

no

So why do you want to stay at the current 1 MB? You can't have it both ways.

First of all.  You edited out my answer.  

Second of all, you are planting assumptions about my position based on information that I did not provide.

In other words, you are not really attempting to engage in any kind of meaningful interaction but instead wanting to disseminate your own talking points and to falsely attribute positions to others (isn't that called, creation of a strawman?)

well he does have a point.. it is hard to interact with people who want to stay at the 1MB block size for obvious reasons.

OKAY WILL WHOEVER IS FOR A 1MB LIMIT PLEASE STEP FORWARD I WILL PERSONALLY SMACK YOU UPSIDE THE HEAD! :-D LOLZZZ

Bitcoin already is 1mb blocksize limit, and from my understanding has been that for almost all of its existence (up until now).  I am for bitcoin and whatever changes that come about I will consider my investment level accordingly.

[DeathAngel]

Weak hands shaken out & now we start to rise bitches.

[Loaded]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/60ozkh/rogerver_lets_make_a_deal_1_for_1_trade_at_least/

bitcoin-cli signmessage 19Mz2o9RDABT74SA9njZqMtJXKEzj2qUoH '@RogerVer lets make a deal, 1 for 1 trade. At least 60k, possibly up to 130k, my BTU for your BTC.'
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[Torque]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/60ozkh/rogerver_lets_make_a_deal_1_for_1_trade_at_least/

bitcoin-cli signmessage 19Mz2o9RDABT74SA9njZqMtJXKEzj2qUoH '@RogerVer lets make a deal, 1 for 1 trade. At least 60k, possibly up to 130k, my BTU for your BTC.'
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[Wexlike]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/60ozkh/rogerver_lets_make_a_deal_1_for_1_trade_at_least/

bitcoin-cli signmessage 19Mz2o9RDABT74SA9njZqMtJXKEzj2qUoH '@RogerVer lets make a deal, 1 for 1 trade. At least 60k, possibly up to 130k, my BTU for your BTC.'
H9ed6z5RgdThRxXXqePmtJbaK1pGvoy6e+aiwUPD6pkrJ6d6TBchOu5OQLEbgq/15YRjcOUC+kMrGVfszUXV5Wc=

I want to trade my BTU too !

[Syke]

OKAY WILL WHOEVER IS FOR A 1MB LIMIT PLEASE STEP FORWARD I WILL PERSONALLY SMACK YOU UPSIDE THE HEAD! :-D LOLZZZ

Bring on the 10MB blocks. The network is not run on netbooks anymore.

[HI-TEC99]

It's $1099 on stamp and keeps trying to push up to $1100. How long until someone buys 187 coins and makes it $1100 again?

[york780]

I am on it. Please wait 2 more minutes i need to grab some food first.

[Master mind]

It's $1099 on stamp and keeps trying to push up to $1100. How long until someone buys 187 coins and makes it $1100 again?

Satoshi will buy . He need 800187 coins.

[gembitz]

OKAY WILL WHOEVER IS FOR A 1MB LIMIT PLEASE STEP FORWARD I WILL PERSONALLY SMACK YOU UPSIDE THE HEAD! :-D LOLZZZ

Bring on the 10MB blocks. The network is not run on netbooks anymore.

^21mb limit good luck sport! :-D

[HI-TEC99]

I am on it. Please wait 2 more minutes i need to grab some food first.

And it's back up to $1109 again. If that was you thanks for the pump.

There's about $90 between today's low and today's high. If you could arrange the same pattern for tomorrow we could go back above $1200.