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4641  Other / Meta / Re: Hey bitcointalk can you stop infringing on freedom of speech? on: March 26, 2017, 01:36:02 AM
What was the opinion that was deleted that "the mods" do not agree with so strongly that they felt it needed to be deleted? What thread was it posted in?
4642  Other / Meta / Re: Show new replies to your posts - Behaviour? on: March 25, 2017, 06:47:25 PM
You can use the "watchlist" which is below that link to only view certain threads. The default behavior is to add a thread to your watchlist when you post to a thread, however if you keep this setting, you can still "unwatch" a thread after you post in it.
4643  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Classic developer admits it: blocksize debate is just a powegrab excuse on: March 24, 2017, 11:43:37 PM
The miners are the only part of the Bitcoin ecosystem with a vested interest in Bitcoin.

All other entities that are part of the Bitcoin ecosystem can easily and quickly move onto various altcoins and/or other business ventures.

I would disagree with this.

People who have invested into bitcoin as a store of value or have built their business around bitcoin have a vested interest as well.

Just because a miner has a more difficult time moving on to another business venture etc does not mean that they are the only ones.

One could argue that a bitcoin miner could sell off their equipment/assets and move on to other ventures/alt-coins/etc.

Not really an absolute type of statement I would agree with there.
The miners as a whole cannot sell off their equipment, and it would probably be difficult for a miner with as little as 5-10% of the network hashrate to sell off their equipment without taking massive losses due to oversupply.

I think it is fairly trivial for the majority of Bitcoin related businesses to either diversify into altcoins or outright change to an altcoin company. For example, most exchanges have diversified into altcoin trading. Your own business has diversified into physical coins loaded with XMR, and I suspect would continue doing well with other altcoins. I believe that most Bitcoin related businesses are more of a pro-crypto bet than a pro-Bitcoin bet.

Long term holders of Bitcoin have more of a vested interest, however liquidity for Bitcoin is much greater than liquidity for Bitcoin miners, so unless you are the largest of the large holders, you can probably sell what you own with little slippage.
4644  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Classic developer admits it: blocksize debate is just a powegrab excuse on: March 24, 2017, 11:18:50 PM
The miners are the only part of the Bitcoin ecosystem with a vested interest in Bitcoin.

All other entities that are part of the Bitcoin ecosystem can easily and quickly move onto various altcoins and/or other business ventures.
4645  Other / Meta / Re: Suggestion for a new board - Bitcoin crowdfunding on: March 23, 2017, 09:18:42 PM
Pretty much every "crowdfunding" "opportunity" = scam

Especially in the Bitcoin world.
4646  Other / Meta / Re: Proposal to keep the forum clean of BU/SW/Fork/Split/... topics on: March 23, 2017, 04:28:47 PM
I understand your concerns that there are a lot of threads about a potential HF. There are a lot of topics about this because this is something that is very important to the future of Bitcoin (regardless of your opinions on the topic). There is a lot of information that many people need to take into consideration when formulating an opinion on the topic.

I have even seen some threads develop sub conversations that make the topic somewhat difficult to follow.

Open discussion about the possibility of a HF is important to get consensus on the appropriate course of action, and again this is regardless of your position on the topic.

Ideally, at one point in the next couple of months, the community and major economic companies will be able to reach some kind of consensus on how to get Bitcoin to scale and some change to Bitcoin will be made. The devs can state their opinion and advise the the community and economy however at the end of the day it is up to the community and economy to reach consensus and if the opinion of the community and economy differs from the devs then what the community and economy wants should prevail. 

Ideally, this kind of issue should not come up frequently and once this has been solved, the number of these kinds of threads should go down.
4647  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: @RogerVer lets make a deal. At least 60k, my BTU for your BTC. on: March 23, 2017, 07:08:44 AM
ROGER VER are you going to respond to this bet?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/60ozkh/rogerver_lets_make_a_deal_1_for_1_trade_at_least/

 > 24 hr ..... Looks like BU and VER are a joke!

People share this reddit so he cant miss this option of a live time! Smiley
 

he already responded earlier in this thread.

I can also "respond" No signed BTC message......
so he does not put his money were his mouth is Loser BTC-U is a joke....

Did you not see the terms that loaded is offering? He is basically asking for a free put option on BU.

No one in their right mind would accept the terms loaded is offering regardless of what is being traded.
4648  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: @RogerVer lets make a deal. At least 60k, my BTU for your BTC. on: March 22, 2017, 10:42:57 PM
If it pressures BU to make improvements, I reserve the right reevaluate the transaction. Win because at least the combined value will be higher.
I would not take this deal. This clause essentially allows you to back out of the deal if, closer to an actual fork it is clear that BU will be superior to Core, and does not allow Ver a similar out.

You are basically asking for a free put option on BU.
4649  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: @RogerVer lets make a deal. At least 60k, my BTU for your BTC. on: March 22, 2017, 04:59:41 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/60ozkh/rogerver_lets_make_a_deal_1_for_1_trade_at_least/

bitcoin-cli signmessage 19Mz2o9RDABT74SA9njZqMtJXKEzj2qUoH '@RogerVer lets make a deal, 1 for 1 trade. At least 60k, possibly up to 130k, my BTU for your BTC.'
H9ed6z5RgdThRxXXqePmtJbaK1pGvoy6e+aiwUPD6pkrJ6d6TBchOu5OQLEbgq/15YRjcOUC+kMrGVfszUXV5Wc=


Whoah, thats a shit ton of coins.

I'd be lucky if i could touch that many coins in my entire lifetime, lmao.

I don't think that Roger will take the offer, because personally I believe that bitcoin core will outvalue bitcoin unlimited after the hard fork. Simply because there are more nodes for BTC than BTU currently, however it could change.

Right now on Bitfinex there are BTU futures available. However they are only worth 0.25 right now.

Would be interesting to see what Roger comes up with.
Please do not read any of this thread, nor research the current trading prices of trading pairs that you are quoting prior to posting here.
4650  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: @RogerVer lets make a deal. At least 60k, my BTU for your BTC. on: March 22, 2017, 12:08:10 AM
Why would he be willing to do a 1 for 1 trade?

Loaded is offering much better terms for a BU supporter. He says:

Quote
No split, no transaction. If there is a split, I'd love to double up.

while the terms on bitfinex mean you lose your money if there's no split. Since it's highly unlikely there's going to be a split, the bitfinex trade is pretty insanely risky even for a BU believer
Yes there is a risk of no split (or that core will change the code in their repository after a split to be compatible with BU) on bitfinex, however I don't think that accounts for all of the discrepancy in price.

The executives at the various exchanges seem to believe that BU initiating a HF to be increasingly possible. The recently found blocks are pointing to momentum for BU.

I cannot predict the future, however I would not write off the possibility of a fork, as doing so would be reckless.

This kind of deal would be nearly impossible for either party to enforce, and there is the possibility that both parties would not even have the potential to be able fulfill their obligations in the event of a split because the loosing chain is likely to quickly die off
4651  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: @RogerVer lets make a deal. At least 60k, my BTU for your BTC. on: March 21, 2017, 11:44:33 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/60ozkh/rogerver_lets_make_a_deal_1_for_1_trade_at_least/

bitcoin-cli signmessage 19Mz2o9RDABT74SA9njZqMtJXKEzj2qUoH '@RogerVer lets make a deal, 1 for 1 trade. At least 60k, possibly up to 130k, my BTU for your BTC.'
H9ed6z5RgdThRxXXqePmtJbaK1pGvoy6e+aiwUPD6pkrJ6d6TBchOu5OQLEbgq/15YRjcOUC+kMrGVfszUXV5Wc=
Verified.

Why would he be willing to do a 1 for 1 trade? The market rate on bitfinex (which I am fairly confident that you use) for BTU is 0.2102 while the market rate for BCC 0.758, both in terms of BTC. So for this to be a fair trade, you would need to offer him 3.6 BTU for every 1 BCC that ver gives you.


edit: no longer confident you use bitfinex; my prior presumption was due to a coinjoin transaction. It does however look like you might have withdrawn 50,000BTC from SilkRoad in Sept 2012, worth ~$610,000 at the time, or you may have purchased some coins from someone who did this.

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4652  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell on: March 19, 2017, 11:33:53 PM
I think by "uninteresting" they mean "unprofitable"
4653  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: safest way to accept unconfirmed transactions on: March 19, 2017, 09:08:12 PM
How diverse is your product base? -- if not very diverse then having a few extra products might not cause very much financial harm.

Do you have a way of tracking if someone is a repeat customer (also are your customers' identities verified)? -- If so, then you can assign each customer a risk profile based on their prior behavior. For example, a customer who has ordered from you multiple times and that has not ever had any kind of failed payment/deposit will probably have a higher chance of having their transaction confirm (or a transaction in the appropriate amount) than a customer who has a history of failed payments/deposits. Also if you have done business with someone many times in the past (and earned profit from this person), then the risk of someone trying to cause you financial harm would be low.

What you are describing sounds very similar to how Gemini will pre-credit some Bitcoin deposits for trading nearly immidiately after receiving the transaction. If this is something similar to what you are trying to implement (or improve), then you can look at the total value of the account verses the value of the deposit. If the deposit is under a certain percentage of the account's balance, then the amount under the certain percentage threshold might be able to be excluded from the total credit risk.
4654  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Does public key reveal that transactions end up in the same wallet ? on: March 19, 2017, 07:56:29 PM
I think the terminology that you are using is not quite correct.

If you send three transactions from addresses that you control to three different addresses controlled by a single entity, then it may be possible to reasonably conclude that either the same entity sent all three transactions, that the same entity received all three transactions, or both, depending on the circumstances.

If the transactions that you send use more than one input, then it can usually be reasonably concluded which address is a change address, especially long after subsequent outputs have been spent. If two inputs are change addresses, then it is possible to reasonably conclude that a single entity controls a larger cluster of addresses than individual transactions might suggest.

If in one transaction, you send BTC to two different entities and no change address, it is sometimes reasonable to conclude this fact, and exclude both entities from being the owner of the sending addresses.

There are specialized tracking companies that do look at the blockchain that use even more advanced analytics (more specifically conclusions derived from these analytics techniques).
4655  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Importing Private Keys on: March 19, 2017, 06:55:22 PM
IIRC, an address being highlighted in red means that BTC ended up in a change address that is expected to receive BTC after the next change address that is expected to receive change from a transaction spent from your wallet.

This could be an indication that a transaction that you sent (that includes a change address) failed to confirm and has dropped from the electrum server's mempool that you are using for whatever reason. It could also be an indication that you directed someone to send BTC to a change address in your wallet that is not the next change address in line to be used.
4656  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Segregated Witlessness on: March 18, 2017, 10:52:06 PM
I have news for you: spammers do not have to limit themselves to increasing the number of transactions they can do by four measly times. They can multiply their transactions by 10x or 100x or 1000x or whatever crazy multiple they want. I can sit at my computer and send a billion transactions into the pool if I want to spend my afternoon doing that.
Increasing the max block size will make it exponentially more expensive for spammers to continue spamming the network. Also as long as the max block size is sufficiently higher than the natural amount of transactions, spamming the network with transactions will be unprofitable to a small miner.   
4657  Other / Meta / Re: wasn't there an exploit through avatars? fixed? on: March 18, 2017, 08:04:46 PM
Who has their avatar hosted on a non-bitcointalk website? What domain is it hosted on?

as it is seen in the screenshot it is on blogspot and 38659 is the user id.
as i said it is a very old account from 2011 (so probably set it back then) and has been activated recently after 2 years.
This has been fixed.
4658  Other / Meta / Re: wasn't there an exploit through avatars? fixed? on: March 18, 2017, 06:36:19 AM
Hmmm, it looks like I had to access http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-d0Ippz-2CN0/TWcO_2wZOiI/AAAAAAAAFZA/ZkU-bL3fUAk/s1600/eagle-4.jpg in order to view his profile. I think this could possible leak information about anyone who views his profile or a page that he posted in.

I will message theymos about this.
4659  Other / Meta / Re: wasn't there an exploit through avatars? fixed? on: March 18, 2017, 06:03:15 AM
Who has their avatar hosted on a non-bitcointalk website? What domain is it hosted on?
4660  Other / Meta / Re: BitCoinTalk.PW (Bitcointalk Proxy Website) on: March 18, 2017, 03:41:25 AM
In regards to profiles, the site will need to view profiles one at a time the same way it would originally get this information. It might know to check the profile if it sees a new/edited post by you, which would reduce the number of times each profile would get checked.

That wouldn't help if their trust score changes.
Your site uses the Default Trust network to calculate trust scores. If this is what you want to do, then you can have your site determine who is in the DefaultTrust network by going to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust and collecting a list of accounts that have a number of zero or greater from an account that only had DefaultTrust in it's trust list, and the trust depth set to 2. From there, your site will only need to parse the sent trust ratings of the few hundred people who are in the DefaultTrust network. The formula to calculate a trust rating is public, so your site should be able to calculate trust ratings without having to visit everyone's profile. Although it might get confused if someone receives their first negative trust rating on the same day that they receive a positive trust rating, so in these instances, you can have your site visit the person's profile to check the ordering of the received trust ratings.

edit: formula for trust ratings --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066857.0
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