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4641  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Advertising spam is not allowed on: October 03, 2014, 01:22:25 PM
You've stated some good points. However, I can't act against the rules created and aproven by both admins. This is where the community (which is affected the most) should express their opinions. If you or anyone else believes that this rule is, as Biomech said, "insane", I suggest PMing BadBear with a well reasoned and thought out message and he might remove this rule. Until then, my hands are tied.

I can't believe that we had to wait 2 months after the first decision for a staff member to come out and say this. All the concerns mentioned in the post you replied were addressed months ago. Obviously this decision was too strict and in many ways insane. I was highly suspicious about how staff members agreed to bringing this rule to use. Ends up it's only a couple of people that have total control of this forum's rules.  Don't staff member like you have a voice in such discussions? Obviously the concerns of the community were systematically ignored this time, but it's scary to know that staff members also can't play a role in such decisions (and please correct me if I'm wrong with something).
I do understand these concerns were adressed, but the only thing I can suggest you is to try and establish a direct dialog with BadBear via PM. The more people talk, the more likely they will reach some kind of agreement.

Every staff member can give suggestions on various descisions, however, the final word goes to either one of the admins (and global mods in some cases). So far, both of the admins listen, address and take into account our opinions. Regarding this situation, I have no opinion (neutral). I'm not an alt miner, nor a trader and I tend to follow the bigger and more established alts so the fact these posts have been removed have no effect on me. That's why I'm suggesting to anyone who has a strong opinion about this situation to contact the admins.
4642  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / MOVED: This could be massive! on: October 03, 2014, 11:11:38 AM
This topic has been moved to Trashcan.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=808728.0

Duplicate thread.
4643  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Advertising spam is not allowed on: October 03, 2014, 05:51:13 AM
No, I don't think the rule is unfair. That would involve some level of thought, malice, or at least a distaste for commerce. Which, given this forum's proven history of supporting scams as long as they pay the advertising fees, is an insane thought.

I think this rule is insane. I think this rule is arbitrary and capricious, and a rather pathetic attempt to garner more advertising revenue without any sort of solid advertising plan or rules regarding such, or price lists..

My earlier comments were to BadBear, who I usually like. He ignored them. Since that's been the case, I have merely aired my grievance in public. This does not affect my posting, as I do not (currently) operate any of the now banned essential services. I have watched this unfold, and watched it being (legitimately) ignored. Like it or not, all things cryptocurrency eventually find their way to this forum. If Theymos needs more revenue, that's understandable. He should consult with businesspeople on how he might do that. Arbitrary and capricious rules with the sole purpose of restricting commerce on a website supposedly dedicated to a new form of commerce do not make monetary or ethical sense. Some restriction on the number of posts per thread to prevent spam, sure. A blanket denial on services that we all rely on in some manner? That could ONLY make sense to someone high on drugs or power.

I am a miner, a trader, and an activist. Not necessarily in that order. I follow the latest happenings in a number of threads. I do NOT regularly scan the OP, and judging by the other posts, neither do the majority of your users. This is ordinary and not egregious. Some of these threads run to hundreds of pages, and just keeping up is often difficult, let alone scanning the OP for posts, or seeking out pools or exchanges via other threads. There is NOT ONE THING in this rule that will actually reduce spam, as an enterprising operator is going to start a new thread and get his friends and sock puppets to bump the hell out of it. Why? because it needs to be noticed by the customers, miners, and yes, casual readers of these fora.

This rule was not thought out. I won't say it was poorly thought out because there was CLEARLY no thought behind it. It was the blind reaction of an amoeba to stimulus, or a drunkard, or a crackhead.

I know this will likely be deleted. It don't matter. It will be seen.

I also am calling you, mprep, personally for your statement "I didn't make the rule...". That is the Nuremburg defense. Those men were hanged. It is NOT a valid defense when asked or ordered to do something you KNOW to be morally suspect. It never has been and it never will be. You seem a decent sort, but you need to take a serious look at what you do. Theymos is too lazy to enforce this, and you know it. If you are trying to get it overturned by it's zealous enforcement, say  so. Ulysses S. Grant was not wrong in that assessment. But don't go with the copout. It lessens you.
You've stated some good points. However, I can't act against the rules created and aproven by both admins. This is where the community (which is affected the most) should express their opinions. If you or anyone else believes that this rule is, as Biomech said, "insane", I suggest PMing BadBear with a well reasoned and thought out message and he might remove this rule. Until then, my hands are tied.
4644  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Advertising spam is not allowed on: October 02, 2014, 06:35:45 PM
Badbear please explain in the best possible way how giving a coin's thread a one time notice that they are accepted to our exchange is considered spam. I just had 33 posts deleted by "mprep" for literally telling a community they are on our exchange. I cannot see any reason for this it is pure nonsense.

Here is an example of my typical posts, note there are no graphics used and very un-spammish in nature

"Welcome to C-CEX:

https://c-cex.com/?p=xsx-btc
https://c-cex.com/?p=xsx-usd"
Regarding the possible ways to show a coin that they have been accepted to your exchange:

1. Make a thread dedicated to your exchange and post a post in that thread that you accepted the coin (it counts as a bump and should be done once every 24 hours). If you don't have a coin added every 24 hours, just post a simple bump which will keep your thread somewhat up.

2. PM the dev asking to add your coin to the OP.

3. To anyone asking on whether some exchange added a coin, PM the user with said information. Just don't overdo it or it'll be considered spamming.
Does this apply for pools then? Can we post "Coin added to the pool, please see my thread" or something like that?
1. Yes, it applies.
2. No, you can't.

Badbear please explain in the best possible way how giving a coin's thread a one time notice that they are accepted to our exchange is considered spam. I just had 33 posts deleted by "mprep" for literally telling a community they are on our exchange. I cannot see any reason for this it is pure nonsense.

Here is an example of my typical posts, note there are no graphics used and very un-spammish in nature

"Welcome to C-CEX:

https://c-cex.com/?p=xsx-btc
https://c-cex.com/?p=xsx-usd"
Regarding the possible ways to show a coin that they have been accepted to your exchange:

1. Make a thread dedicated to your exchange and post a post in that thread that you accepted the coin (it counts as a bump and should be done once every 24 hours). If you don't have a coin added every 24 hours, just post a simple bump which will keep your thread somewhat up.

2. PM the dev asking to add your coin to the OP.

3. To anyone asking on whether some exchange added a coin, PM the user with said information. Just don't overdo it or it'll be considered spamming.

Short form: You have no idea what you are doing. Or why. Were you guys drinking a LOT when you came up with this?
I didn't make the rules. Talk to BadBear and theymos if you believe this rule is unfair.

Badbear please explain in the best possible way how giving a coin's thread a one time notice that they are accepted to our exchange is considered spam. I just had 33 posts deleted by "mprep" for literally telling a community they are on our exchange. I cannot see any reason for this it is pure nonsense.

Here is an example of my typical posts, note there are no graphics used and very un-spammish in nature

"Welcome to C-CEX:

https://c-cex.com/?p=xsx-btc
https://c-cex.com/?p=xsx-usd"
Regarding the possible ways to show a coin that they have been accepted to your exchange:

1. Make a thread dedicated to your exchange and post a post in that thread that you accepted the coin (it counts as a bump and should be done once every 24 hours). If you don't have a coin added every 24 hours, just post a simple bump which will keep your thread somewhat up.

2. PM the dev asking to add your coin to the OP.

3. To anyone asking on whether some exchange added a coin, PM the user with said information. Just don't overdo it or it'll be considered spamming.

Short form: You have no idea what you are doing. Or why. Were you guys drinking a LOT when you came up with this?

What information can be posted in a thread?  If we can't discuss where to mine, buy, sell, or exchange the coin, why allow comments at all?  There's not much else to talk about.
You can discuss the coin's community, specs ,algo, issues with the coin, benefits and disadvantages of it, when a certain feature will be implemented, feature discussion, troubleshooting and support for the coin, updates, hashing speed of the coin, config suggestions for more effective mining, etc.
4645  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / MOVED: World Dollar Forum on: October 02, 2014, 05:38:23 PM
This topic has been moved to Marketplace (Altcoins).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=807948.0

Discussions of services/websites don't belong in the main board.
4646  Other / Off-topic / Re: Old Miners, pre block 5000. Anyone still around from the early days? on: October 02, 2014, 05:17:03 PM
I downloaded the blockchain on a 400mb 3g plan

I don't see how this is relevant to the OP, though.
It means he downloaded the blockchain when it was only 400MB max which was quite a long time ago (or spent several months downloading it Cheesy). In comparison, now the blockchain is 22,4 GB size (according to blockchain.info).
4647  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / MOVED: Hot Altcoin Sex on: October 02, 2014, 04:43:14 PM
This topic has been moved to Trashcan.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=806417.0

Pointless thread.
4648  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Advertising spam is not allowed on: October 02, 2014, 04:33:28 PM
Badbear please explain in the best possible way how giving a coin's thread a one time notice that they are accepted to our exchange is considered spam. I just had 33 posts deleted by "mprep" for literally telling a community they are on our exchange. I cannot see any reason for this it is pure nonsense.

Here is an example of my typical posts, note there are no graphics used and very un-spammish in nature

"Welcome to C-CEX:

https://c-cex.com/?p=xsx-btc
https://c-cex.com/?p=xsx-usd"
Regarding the possible ways to show a coin that they have been accepted to your exchange:

1. Make a thread dedicated to your exchange and post a post in that thread that you accepted the coin (it counts as a bump and should be done once every 24 hours). If you don't have a coin added every 24 hours, just post a simple bump which will keep your thread somewhat up.

2. PM the dev asking to add your coin to the OP.

3. To anyone asking on whether some exchange added a coin, PM the user with said information. Just don't overdo it or it'll be considered spamming.
4649  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VEX] VexCoin | Earn by PoA | MULTIPOOL | ICO is complete | Buy Support! on: October 02, 2014, 04:13:40 PM
Mod note: Thread closed because of incentivising posts / on-forum altcoin giveaway. See rule: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=434310.0
4650  Economy / Speculation / MOVED: BOOOOOOOOOOOM on: October 01, 2014, 04:28:46 PM
This topic has been moved to Trashcan.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=804599.0

Pointless, similiar to other recent threads.
4651  Other / Meta / Re: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ on: September 30, 2014, 05:28:37 PM
There's nothing about ban evasion in these rules. Is it intentional? Or everybody overlooked it? Tongue
Isn't that kind of self explanatory? If you escape prison and they catch you, they put you in for a longer amount of time.

I agree it is, but sometimes it's useful to point to a specific written rule. You might recall that my motivation to the spanish translation was to be able to tell a troll what the rules were. Ok, now that troll has been permabanned but he keeps on creating new accounts, and there's no specific written rule to point to. Self-explanatory and all that, yes, but these people have a… err different mind set Smiley.
Good point, added rule 25 with an explanation:

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25. Ban evasion (creating new accounts when the old one is banned) is not allowed.[e]

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25. If you get banned (temporary or permanently) and create a new account to continue posting / sending PMs, it's considered ban evasion. The only exception is creating a thread in Meta about your ban.
4652  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / MOVED: New Mining service ,Mining Contracts ,Paypal Accepted. on: September 30, 2014, 05:22:51 PM
This topic has been moved to Trashcan.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750071.0

Ref spam.
4653  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / MOVED: [NXT] First NXTHYIP on: September 30, 2014, 05:22:20 PM
This topic has been moved to Trashcan.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=800823.0

Duplicate thread.
4654  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / MOVED: The wait is almost over.. NEOS V2 on: September 30, 2014, 05:21:31 PM
This topic has been moved to Trashcan.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=804234.0

Pointless redirection thread.
4655  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / MOVED: Traders Info || Double your BTC on: September 30, 2014, 05:20:30 PM
This topic has been moved to Trashcan.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=804332.0

Pointless low value promotion.
4656  Other / Meta / Re: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ on: September 30, 2014, 05:13:23 PM
There's nothing about ban evasion in these rules. Is it intentional? Or everybody overlooked it? Tongue
Isn't that kind of self explanatory? If you escape prison and they catch you, they put you in for a longer amount of time.
4657  Economy / Trading Discussion / MOVED: A new way to buy bitcoins in Europe on: September 30, 2014, 05:07:13 PM
This topic has been moved to Trashcan.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=798133.0

Ref spam.
4658  Economy / Currency exchange / MOVED: CashToCrypto.com: Send Cash and Receive Bitcoin Same Day on: September 30, 2014, 05:04:21 PM
This topic has been moved to Trashcan.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=765843.0

Duplicate thread.
4659  Economy / Services / MOVED: HostSailor.com $2.99 USD XEN/OpenVZ/KVM managed, instant, gbit Windows/Linux. on: September 30, 2014, 04:53:55 PM
This topic has been moved to Trashcan.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=804220.0

Duplicate thread.
4660  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / MOVED: Some new information on Satoshi Nakamodo? on: September 30, 2014, 04:11:49 PM
This topic has been moved to Trashcan.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=802716.0

Pointless unrelated thread.
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