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4721  Economy / Economics / Re: Technological unemployment is (almost) here on: June 24, 2015, 09:46:18 PM
People who own the machines will reap the rewards just as people who "own" the labor reap the rewards now. This is unacceptable except for the owners.

It's a bit different. You can 'reap the rewards of labour' for generations, but when TU kicks in, it'll be dead-end for all. As the 'owner of machines' you'll need consumers (with income) to buy from you. And the risk of angry mob raiding your house and taking over your goods and your power grows in line with the number of unemployed with no income.

So when TU becomes real issue, there should be mutual willingness to come up with some sort of solution. The biggest problem is whether the political elites (and those who pull their strings) have any long-term strategy rather than focusing only on the next few years.
4722  Economy / Gambling / Re: SafeDICE.com ★ Bitcoin Dice ★ Monero Dice ★ Low 0.5% Edge ★ Fast Cashout ★ Fair on: June 24, 2015, 08:50:06 PM
Congratulations to frankmb for being the most profitable player of our daily leaderboard with more than 13 BTC profit Smiley
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Seems frank was massively down on his luck after that, I see he made a few big losses and disappeared from 'daily profit' table. Good to see he's still in a good mood tho (on chat).
4723  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Debit Cards: A Real Alternative? on: June 22, 2015, 08:58:06 PM
For those who don't care about remaining anonymous and don't care about centralizing their personal Bitcoin (depositing Bitcoin onto an ATM card would be a form of voluntary centralization), it might be a very convenient way to spend their bit coin. At this point, I would be extremely leery of any ATM cards. The major payment processors (VISA and MasterCard) are not open to the idea of Bitcoin and could force the card issuer to stop excepting Bitcoin deposits with little to no notice.

I don't see it likely. First of all, they do directly benefit from this form of bitcoin activity, second of all, it would be very bad PR for them, and last but not least, if they did that, they would be possibly facing anti-monopoly actions and large fines (in some countries, where their lobby is weaker). You cannot just deny service because you don't like bitcoin, you'd need a better reason for that (and money-laundering/supporting terrorism is not a case here, since there's no anonymity).

4724  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Debit Cards: A Real Alternative? on: June 22, 2015, 08:51:18 PM

I have 1 question about these bitcoin debit cards? Do they work with all ATM's or the banks have to uppgrade the ATM's software in order to read BTC. I`m sure ATM's, whatever software they use, dont even have the 'BTC' character implemented in their software.
So i`m sure the banks have to do work too to implement this feature.


It's pretty simple. Your BTC debit card provider (ie XAPO, Bit-x, Bitstamp etc) keeps your BTC funds and converts to fiat whenever you want to use the card, therefore you're paying with fiat (but it comes from your BTC deposit). So yes, it works like a regular card and you can pay pretty much everywhere.
4725  Economy / Economics / Re: Best Bitcoin-related business idea for a country with few recognition of Bitcoin on: June 22, 2015, 08:42:13 PM
I am from Turkey.

I wonder what is the best Bitcoin-related thing to do in a country like Turkey.

  • There are two exchanges, of which I don't really know the volume
  • Not much business accept Bitcoin

What are your thoughts?
What did the people in other similar countries do?

Open a trading platform just for the people of turkey and earn commissions. Start an eCommerce platform and accept bitcoins as mode of payment. And then sell those bitcoins in the international market.

He said there already are 2 exchanges (trading platforms), if there's not enough users (volume) opening another one wouldn't make much sense (unless those 2 are crappy ones).

If you meant altcoin trading platforms, then anyone from Turkey can use already established ones (Cryptsy, poloniex etc).

Ecommerce platform would require lots of customers and massive funds to get traction.

@OP, you could start with small online shop, just pick something that sells well, buy in bulk with discount from wholesaler, accept both BTC and fiat. You wouldn't have to be cheapest, but by accepting BTC you would get some extra exposure (free advertising on bitcoin directories and forums) and you'd have small advantage over competitors, especially if you provide international shipping.

What about fractional gold? You have few refineries in Turkey. I remember Nadir had fractional gold bars (below 1 gram; i.e. 0.1g or 0.05g), these could sell well for BTC, especially that most of sites that sell gold for bitcoins are based in US and shipping costs kill it for European buyers (and they don't offer fractional bars).
4726  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2015-06-21] DailyMail: The bitcoin drug baron: Mother thought her 'gentle son' on: June 22, 2015, 05:23:27 PM
I have a couple of people working with me, who live in areas where gangsters are doing their business from their own houses. The police and law enforcement know where they stay and what they do, but they do very little.

When the Police raid these houses {Normally when someone innocent was killed in the cross-fire} you find that the mother and father and kids deny having ANY knowledge of their kids operation.

The Gangs use underage children to do the drug running and the killings, because they get smaller sentences and in some countries are exempted from the death penalty for murder.

I am not saying this is the case with Ross's mother, but I find it very difficult to believe that they knew nothing about this at all. If it is true, I feel very sorry for her.. it cannot be easy for a mother to be in such a position.

Someone like (for example) Bernie Madoff's sons probably knew what daddy was doing and lied later. Ross's mother could very well have known nothing at all about Silk Road.

She probably knew as much as he was willing to tell her, and I don't see anyone would be willing to share with his mom that he helps people to buy/sell drugs and weapons over the internet etc.
4727  Economy / Economics / Re: Best Bitcoin-related business idea for a country with few recognition of Bitcoin on: June 22, 2015, 04:28:05 PM
The very first thing any country needs in terms of bitcoins is exchange services. Are those 2 you mentioned legit/registered?
You can always try your luck and register on local bitcoins, if no one else does it in your area, you can possibly earn decent money with little effort. Just make sure it is legal (declare your profits and pay taxes etc.) and never trade for cash in obscure places.

If there aren't many informational websites on what BTC is in Turkish, you could set up one, possibly add some faucet and get some advert income if traffic is high enough.
4728  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitcoinPoker.gg - High Stakes. High Rewards - Secure Bitcoin Poker on: June 21, 2015, 04:15:15 PM
I don't think anyone would mind if he actually started to play the rake games (risking his own funds) instead of just abusing freerolls.

I'd say, let him play.

I think he is not the type to play the ring games. Someone who make a multiple account to abuse freerolls means that he is a very bad players and also the all-in type player that has no skill in poker that is why he make alot of account so that he can get another chance if he all-in them and lose

Yeah, but there are no freerolls anymore, so I assume he's talking about raked games. He can't really pull off the same stunt in raked games as he did in freerolls, it wouldn't end up very good for him.
4729  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitcoinPoker.gg - High Stakes. High Rewards - Secure Bitcoin Poker on: June 21, 2015, 03:49:59 PM
cool, let's see if you can revive your dead poker site;
for whatever it's worth, i will use any chance to play and win the game,
leaving you penniless - that's what you good for and deserve in full!

Dude, cmon you got caught creating multiple accounts and if you don't like the site feel free to leave and move on into another poker site.. no point crying in here..

I don't think anyone would mind if he actually started to play the rake games (risking his own funds) instead of just abusing freerolls.

I'd say, let him play.
4730  Bitcoin / Press / [2015-06-21] DailyMail: The bitcoin drug baron: Mother thought her 'gentle son' on: June 21, 2015, 12:34:55 PM

The bitcoin drug baron: Mother thought her 'gentle son' was making video games on his laptop... now he's been jailed for life for masterminding Silk Road drug site

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3132773/The-bitcoin-drug-baron-Mother-thought-gentle-son-making-video-games-laptop-s-jailed-masterminding-Silk-Road-drug-site.html

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To Lyn Ulbricht, her son was an idealistic graduate, a charity volunteer in shared digs who had so little money he didn’t even own a car.

Thirty-one-year-old Ross liked to spend time away from the trappings of the modern world, living for months at the family eco-tourism business in Costa Rica.

But to US prosecutors, Ross Ulbricht had a very different identity. To them, he was Dread Pirate Roberts, a criminal mastermind who created the notorious Silk Road website selling drugs and laundering money around the world using digital ‘bitcoins’ – a man so dangerous he had hired hitmen to kill rivals.
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4731  Bitcoin / Press / [2015-06-18] Metro: Could Greece take bitcoin as its official currency? on: June 21, 2015, 12:30:14 PM

Could Greece take bitcoin as its official currency?

http://metro.co.uk/2015/06/18/could-greece-take-bitcoin-as-its-official-currency-5252453/

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With time now rapidly running out, Athens and its lenders – other eurozone countries and the International Monetary Fund – appear to be deadlocked over how much more Greece must tighten its belt in exchange for needed funding.

The eurozone portion of Greece’s €245 billion bailout expires on June 30, the same day Greece faces a €1.5 billion payment to the IMF.

This amount of debt and interest is totally unsustainable for Greece to maintain and the country has no more to give. So what next?

Could Greece take bitcoin as its official currency?

It would not be a good idea for Greece to renounce the euro and adopt bitcoin which would mean giving up their sovereign monetary policy.

Monetary policy, used responsibly, is useful to manage public finances, provided it is not abused to issue too much currency. Greece cannot itself use monetary policy whilst it is part of the eurozone and adopting bitcoin would put Greece in exactly the same position.
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4732  Economy / Economics / Re: UK income TAX brackets on: June 21, 2015, 11:59:09 AM

Excellent just what i needed, so you can earn up to £10k and not pay tax, thats actually alright! - you know, alright considering they raping us overall. Thanks Smiley

I think you've got it slightly wrong. You don't lose your personal allowance if you earn above those £10k (unless you earn above ~£120k).

So if you earned say £15k, you still pay zero on those £10k and 20% on the remaining £5k. In other words, it doesn't make sense to reduce your working hours/earnings to stay in the lower bracket.

4733  Economy / Economics / Re: Techonological unemployment is (almost) here on: June 21, 2015, 10:49:59 AM
Making things cheaper doesn't mean they will be sold for cheaper. Usually the difference becomes greater profit for companies. And next year's profit always needs to be more than today's profit, otherwise manager's lose their jobs.

Sure, at first when the company manages to reduce their costs (automation, outsourcing etc.) they would enjoy higher profit margin, but once their competitors do the same, they would all have to reduce prices.
How many people could afford first mobile phones/first PCs/laptops/microwaves etc, and how many can afford them now?

E.g., automation has been added to the manufacture of cars for decades, has the cost of cars gone down over decades? No, the cost has gone up...and up...and up.


You got any stats to support that? Quick google search proves you're wrong:

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-2408807/New-car-prices-risen-inflation-25-years.html

4734  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: How 999dice.com is stealing your coins, and exactly why you won't believe me on: June 20, 2015, 07:28:36 PM
I just stop to trust all casino that operated via bitcoin
I lost more than 12 btc in one year
The problem is that I never had the opportunity to cash out at last 0.01 btc
So I will stop using btc casino
But back to betfair.

The fact that you lost doesn't say anything about trust of the particular casino. All of them have house edge, meaning that you're more likely to lose over time.

Do you think it would be different if you've used fiat casinos? I doubt that.

But yes, if you keep losing and the amount you've lost is significant to you, then, by all means, you should stop gambling all together.
4735  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM | No.1 for Cryptocurrency Gambling | Provably Fair | 1 BTC BONUS on: June 20, 2015, 07:04:49 PM
That's a bummer:




I understand why you want to restrict yourselves from certain states of US, but why UK? I don't recall any other gambling sites blocking UK customers.
4736  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2015-06-19] ArsTechnica: After Bitcoin loan goes south, judge rules man must... on: June 20, 2015, 08:46:50 AM
I must be brain dead or not seeing something right.  That amount of BTC to pay back only costs $2900 right now.

The judge must have valued the coins at the rate when the loan was made, or at the time the loan was due. Also included is interest and likely all the legal costs incurred by the lender.
4737  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2015-06-19] ArsTechnica: After Bitcoin loan goes south, judge rules man must... on: June 19, 2015, 10:46:23 PM
Good to see that the person who lent the coins is actually going forward with justice... This just goes to show that people who come here to scam aren't inimputable, just because this is "magic internet money"... This is serious business. Unfortunately some people just see this as joke and an opportunity to scam.

Agree, too many victims choose to do nothing and just give up.

Although in this case, according to lender's lawyer it's uncertain whether he'll get his money back:

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He admitted that it would be difficult to collect the money from the Kentucky man.

“Just because I get a judgement, it’s a piece of paper—I can try to put a lien on his house, take his car, but he has various homestead exemptions,” he added, citing a law in Kentucky and elsewhere that exists to protect homeowners with deceased spouses who owe money to creditors.
4738  Bitcoin / Press / [2015-06-19] ArsTechnica: After Bitcoin loan goes south, judge rules man must... on: June 19, 2015, 10:09:59 PM

After Bitcoin loan goes south, judge rules man must repay over $67,000

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/06/after-bitcoin-loan-goes-south-judge-rules-man-must-repay-over-67000/

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A judge in rural Breathitt County, Kentucky (population: 13,878) ruled earlier this month that a local man who received a loan of 11.95 bitcoins in December 2013 must repay it, including interest, for a total amount of over $67,800 (about £42,600).

Back then, when the price of one bitcoin was rapidly rising and trading in the $800-$1,000 range, a Brazilian man named Daniel Kaminski de Souza loaned the bitcoins using a peer-to-peer bitcoin loan site called BTCJam. At the time of the loan, those bitcoins were worth about $10,000 (£6,300).

The borrower, Dennis Kerley, offered a 20 percent return to his lenders within a year. His plan was to use the money to buy bitcoin miners—obviously, it didn't work out. Kerley did not respond to Ars’ attempts to reach him on Thursday evening.
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4739  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What will happen to my paper wallet? on: June 19, 2015, 05:46:12 PM
In the worst case scanario, when Bitcoin divides into 2 forks, the coins deposited before the fork will be withdrawable on any of the 2 forks (possibly on both, but not sure on this one).

There could be a problem with the coins deposited after forking. If you deposit using fork 1, you may be not be able to withdraw on fork 2. But your current holding is safe.
4740  Economy / Economics / Re: Techonological unemployment is (almost) here on: June 18, 2015, 08:52:03 PM
Automation will just make things cheaper, so people will need less money and just need to work less.
If the automation doesn't make things cheaper then how will all these people without jobs be able to afford the products created by this automation? How will this automation survive economically?

These problems are always resolved automatically and naturally by market forces.

aside:
Unemployment is an artificially created situation used by governments to keep the employment market competitive and wages low.
It's easy to solve n% unemployment if you want to - just make everyone work n% less and thus create n% more work.

Do you really think that automated machines going to get cheaper? There is new technology coming out everyday. And every new technology starts from higher prices. Eventually there prices comes down, but only when there is a another new machine to replace it.

And unemployment is a problem, and a big one. What do you call jobless people as? Those people who are going for interviews everyday, clearing the interviews and still not getting selected as the positions are few. What do you call those people who are being replaced by machines and they have to sit at home jobless?

You're quoting post from 2013, author of which has been inactive for over half year. Don't expect a reply.

He didn't say machines will be cheaper, but that machines will make things cheaper, which is correct.
He didn't say unemployment is not a problem, but he pointed at possible solutions. Not entirely bad one, but rather ineffective and temporary imo.
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