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As I pointed out in my last post, with the link, the Schildbach Android Bitcoin Wallet already has NFC support. Had it for a long time.
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Honestly, the thing that I'm upset with the most is the way he weaseled out of it. "Pay to that address?" Honestly? I thought Matthew was much more clever than this. I fully didn't expect him to pay, but I at least hoped he would come up with some crazy or at least interesting reason not to. This was just sad. Matthew, I am dissapoint  |
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If matt loses he pays 20btc to 13dSK4663Ts7j2PwHS1eUVjycKLBwx7PJM. And he did it. If matt won all participants had to pay him their bets.  Except that is absolutely not what he said. He said "to that address" that would be specified "in the following format" FORMAT. Not that specific address. Troll fail big time. |
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Note that after giving an example of a FORMAT to use, please stick to the following format: He says, The above post would be betting 20BTC that he in fact is not going to payout as described. If I lose the bet, you get 20BTC sent to that address. If you lose, you'll need to send 20BTC to my address. Meaning if he loses, he will pay to "that address" that you provided when you placed the bet in the format he specified. Seems legit to me... |
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You are correct, good Sir. I am Pirate's biggest Cheerleader. Go Pirate Go !
I hope he runs away with EVERYTHING......
he has lol Then I hope he keeps on running. He deserves to be compensated for playing such a good hand and duping alot of us, regardless of the signs. He has now become one of my heroes, even though he is younger than I am, I still admire him and wish him the best. I don't really have much to be bitter about in the grand scheme of things, as there are people who have lost 10x more than I did, so I can always rest easy, knowing that I was not the biggest sucker involved. Stockholm Syndrome much? |
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Huh. Apparently no such thing as nanoBitcoin or picoBitcoin. Ten nanoBTC is the smallest unit we have.
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I like nanoBitcoin or picoBitcoin
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I didn't lose anything in Bit floor, but I'm willing to put up a few hundred as investments or bonds into this thing to get it going again Any word from Roman as to what he's hoping/planning to do? |
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Is it stated anywhere how long the losing side has to complete payments?
No. Technically he could lose the bet and not pay anything for a hundred years  Fuck it, why not. Apparently hashking and imsaguy have defaulted and will take 3 years to repay What kind of ratings did Patrick give those investments? AAA or AA-? |
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Not 4pm there yet. Matt is still asleep, anyway.
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...especially an address supposedly Vadim did not live in for the past seven years when he's still using said address to register domain names.
FYI, I'm still using an address that I stayed at in Orlando for 9 months during my internship years ago to register domain names, because fuck ICANN. That's not necessarily proof of someone untrustworthy. |
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I hope Matthew didn't forget that, regardless of whether he was serious about paying, or whether this was just some stunt to teach people a lesson, his actions goaded a bunch of other "innocent" bystander pirate supporters to make side bets similar to Matthew's. So even if he doesn't pay out, those other people who had little to do with him will also be getting screwed in the process.
Also, I'm disappointed that, for taking Matthew's bet (albeit only for 20BTC, since I'd feel guilty taking any more from him), I am apparently also lumped in with the troll group that should be "destroyed."
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No where..... Just a question Stupid question, as the answer will be no, regardless of whether it's a truth or a lie. |
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People need to judge each transaction or offer as an individual entity, otherwise the only thing that the "poop rolling down hill" mob mentality will prove in the end is that bitcoin itself, is nothing more than a huge scam and in turn, a complete failure from an economic standpoint.
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If compounding and domino-effect fallout were to become the community standard, bitcoin as a whole would prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that it is nothing more than a pyramid scheme, a Ponzi scam and worst of all, completely centralized because of it's up-stream financial dependencies.
Lucky for us, the underlying mentality and purpose of Bitcoin is STILL "screw the banks" and "be your own bank." If some people want to invest their money with some risky scheme, that really only reflects poorly on the risky scheme, and the people doing the investing. The rest of us will happily continue holding our Bitcoin in safe storages, spending only what we need when we need it. |
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But you and almost everybody believes he will pay.
Uh, wut? How do you know that? Do you believe everyone who has placed a bet here that they are really willing to bet and aren't just trolling Matthew? |
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This post is a must-read and have to go in the hall of fame of great post.
It's also basically what some of us have been saying for quite some time now: Real businesses can't promise a permanent interest rate that is this good. I guess it just had to be said by someone you hadn't already decided is stupid. Oh well, as long as you finally get a clue it's all good. I know that. But it's not because the market rates are higher than normal that these business are necessarily "ponzi". The market is expanding at an insane speed right now, causing those insane rates. Nobody has promised those rates forever. The ones who think these rates are going to last more than 1 year are the one crying "scams" everywhere. +1 to what DeaDTerra said. It's not really the market expanding as just people willing to borrow. I haven't seen too much economic activity in Bitcoin to warrant a 3% /week investment rate ON TOP of the 8% a month deflation growth. If it's true that the reason people are borrowing is because they see Bitcoin going up, want to have it NOW, and prefer to borrow at 3% for a week while their money transfers instead of preying 4% to instant deposit places, then that's a pretty shaky business to be based on, since a reversal of Bitcoin growth or a new instant deposit service with lower fees will instantly kill borrowing incentive. Likewise, as I mentioned, a huge spike in Bitcoin prices will likely cause borrowers to default. Due to all this, I would say the high rates are warranted, since high risk = high rates. This, however, does not mean that none of these HYIPs are NOT ponzis, either. We just don't know until they become more transparent. And in the end, the choice is really between a ponzi scam, and a 1980's style Savings and Trust, both of which have histories of great financial collapse. |
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OK, half a year  Bitcoin time moves fast! At the time Mr. Bitfloor appeared on Bruce's show, it was well known that Bruce had committed a mortgage scam and was a key suspect in other scams. If Bruce's history was known to Mr. Bitfloor, why would he associate professionally with him? Perhaps Mr. Bitfloor is only guilty of gross negligence (which still begs the question of why people would still urge others to "invest" in him); however, his ties to Bruce Wagner ought to raise suspicions. You are giving Bruce A HELL of a lot more credit that you should be. He couldn't figure out how to operate a video camera for the first week or two. What makes you think he knows how to set up or hack Bitcoin exchanges? |
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OK, half a year Bitcoin time moves fast! |
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So what is it? Accepted? Rejected? Ignored?
Rejected. OK, thanks for the closure, but why? Original bet post said 100 post minimum required, so no newbie bets. |
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