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4741  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Aktueller Bericht - Winfuture on: June 20, 2011, 09:45:16 AM
Heise:
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Mt. Gox ist einer der wenigen Anbieter im Netz, die den Geldwechsel direkt in "traditonelle" Währungen wie Dollar oder Euro gestatten, hinter denen eine Zentralbank als Bürge steht. Bitcoin wird als dezentrale Währung durch den Preis des Stroms geregelt, der beim außerordentlich rechenintensiven Erzeugen von Bitcoins durch "Miner" bezahlt werden muss.
Tippfehler und Prinzip missverstanden... Roll Eyes aber sonst noch recht in Ordnung.
4742  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: TradeHill - Captcha and lockout added to the site on: June 20, 2011, 09:38:41 AM
Where is EST relative to GMT?
10 am EST = 3 pm GMT (they might have DST in EST though for example which I'm not 100% aware of - this is why you should use UTC!)

Edit:
Oh yes, and the Captcha is a joke!
4743  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Multipool - the pool mining pool on: June 19, 2011, 09:36:33 PM
Utility seems to me more like an internal scoring method which pool is good to jump into than some "useful" value to caluculate with for people who don't know the inner algorithm.
4744  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Looking for a newbie friendly Miningpool? Join ABCBitcoin.net! on: June 19, 2011, 12:21:57 PM
Is the 1% fee on all income or on the 50 BTC only?
Do you distribute transaction fees amongst miners?
Which payout distribution model do you use? (Proportional, Pay per share, Scored with holy-fire's method or other)

Also: What does this strange graph with dates at the end of September mean on your main page?
4745  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Continuum Mining Pool: No fees; Optional PPS; Client uptime monitoring on: June 19, 2011, 10:43:03 AM
Why would you mine with 5-10% "built-in" bad luck using a method that is easily exploitable by a known method? Huh

To decrease variance you can just mine in several pools (even at once) and if they're score based you'd also get the expected rate (if they are prop. you can hop and get even more Wink )
4746  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: just installed a clean Linux, need help (1 TBC bounty ) on: June 19, 2011, 10:37:11 AM
Reading doesn't seem to be a strength of yours, hm?

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=6819.0

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Installation is simple - just run sudo ./install.sh (it requires superuser privileges in order to copy the plugins and kernels to /usr/share/)
4747  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Geldmaschine Bitcoin? on: June 19, 2011, 10:22:24 AM
Ein paar Leute behaupten schon, ASICs in Auftrag gegeben zu haben (FPGAs hat eh "jeder" daheim rumliegen [der will])... solange ich da aber keine Bilder etc. sehe, glaube ich da nicht so wirklich dran.

Chipfertigung braucht aber so seine Zeit, wenn dann kommt mal im Herbst was raus, sollte der Bericht stimmen.
4748  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Continuum Mining Pool: No fees; Optional PPS; Client uptime monitoring on: June 19, 2011, 10:18:52 AM
I tried this pool, since it offers about 6% better PPS rate than deepbit.

(50-0.0000541647*877226.66666667)*2 = 4.97056154%

I thought deepbit charges 10% for PPS? This would mean this pool only offers 5% better rates - while not(?) paying for stale shares. In the long run this is not really desirable as a miner imho as you earn 5% less than expected. For pool operators it's also not desirable as miners can be easily patched to "leech" PPS pools (aka "not submitting winning shares attack") and such a pool can be killed by any rivalling bigger pool with just the missing 5% covered out of own pockets.
4749  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [POOL] Startup Pool 0.4 Gh/s -= 0% FEE =- Come help us find our First BLOCK on: June 19, 2011, 10:03:05 AM
The payout algorithm is hopping proof.
Based on Meni's algorithm?
4750  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: just installed a clean Linux, need help (1 TBC bounty ) on: June 19, 2011, 09:38:31 AM
Could be done in a few lines on Arch Linux - however a few more infos would be needed... like which "Linux" (= which distribution) are you even using?!

Also why poclbm AND hashkill?

Anyways, Arch has poclbm and phoenix-miner in AUR as well as hashkill (you'd still need the bitcoin plugin for the latter though)... the full script would require more than 1 hour of work though probably and also mean I'd take my miner offline --> not gonna happen, my time is worth more than 17 USD/hour!
4751  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Buy shares, get coins as profit, sell when it goes high & enjoy life on: June 19, 2011, 09:26:10 AM
"Batch files" are shellscript files in Linux.

You don't need afterburner to have a temperature logger, I think I saw a few scripts using RRDtool or similar stuff in the Mining section of this forum.
Overclocking can be also done via the ATI driver.
I don't get however why the GPU should suddenly get hotter than usual, if everything else (room temperature, mining program(s), clock rate...) stays constant.

I personally use arch linux, as it has already phoenix-miner in it's user repository, but I guess it doesn't really matter.


Why did you even stop using Windows? You have a license anyways (I guess/hope) and mining is not faster on Linux as far as I've experienced. If you're used to and comfortable with Windows and also rely on tools there, like afterburner, why switch and invest the work for practically 0 gain output-wise?
4752  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [5BTC BONUS!] MineCo.in - LP,EU Server,SSL,JSON API,0% TAX on: June 19, 2011, 09:18:54 AM
Oh look, another proportional pool for Multipool! Grin
We are discussing a method for combatting this.

We are currently monitoring all users hashrates over a certain period. It's possible we could use this as an indication of how much to pay each user.
I would then either have a long "tail" of payouts (if you average hash rate on long timers) this making everyone pay for past miners for some time or (if it's shorter than it takes the pool on the current difficulty) still enable hopping.

A working + proven scoring method has been published. Use it!
4753  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [POOL] Startup Pool 0.4 Gh/s -= 0% FEE =- Come help us find our First BLOCK on: June 19, 2011, 09:14:55 AM
What's your payout algorithm? Proportional or hopping-proof?
Also who gets transaction fees and who (and how) finances the server(s)?

Kinda the standard questions I think...
4754  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Geldmaschine Bitcoin? on: June 19, 2011, 08:37:48 AM
Nennt sich FPGA, hier ist z.B. eine Sendung was das jetzt genau ist: http://chaosradio.ccc.de/cre117.html

Wenn man dann ein ganz tolles FPGA "Programm" geschrieben hat, kann man das auch direkt als Chip erzeugen lassen, das nennt sich dann ASIC.

Mit den beiden Suchwörtern solltest du hier im Forum einiges finden.
4755  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Insgesamt ca. 6000 BTC und 3 Wallets weg on: June 19, 2011, 07:25:44 AM
Wie soll der denn den Kurs drücken? Nur weil er hier evtl. sowas erfindet?
Da springen vielleicht 5 Noobs deshalb weltweit ab. Ich denke nicht, dass es grossen Einfluss haben wird.

Die Geschichte mit den 25.000 haben die Medien auch aus diesem Forum. Für die ist das ein gefundenes Fressen, ob es stimmt oder nicht ist denen egal. Es reicht denen ja schon 'Gerüchten zu folge hat ein Deutscher 6.000 verloren' - auch und und wenn gerade der Poster evtl. sogar selbst der Journalist ist. Wach mal auf. Bist Du so naiv?

Und jetzt schließt endlich diesen Thread. ist ja lächerlich das ganze. Alles wurde gesagt.
Der Journalist der einen 1-Post Poster Thread als News nimmt, riskiert auch so einiges... Wink
4756  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Insgesamt ca. 6000 BTC und 3 Wallets weg on: June 18, 2011, 07:09:53 PM
PS: die Bitcoins wurden in kleinen Stücken (unter 1 BTC) an tausende verschiedene BTC Nummern versendet
Blockexplorer or didn't happen!  Tongue

Ehrlich, gib mal Links zu den Transaktionen! Wieso hattest du überhaupt 3 verschiedene Wallets?
4757  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Multipool - the pool mining pool on: June 18, 2011, 06:36:56 PM
Because most of them are tiny and might rather get DOSed from a massive hopping pool like this I guess.

Also reducing variance is one of the reasons here, and this is best accomplished by having as many pools as possible. The pool hopping still gives you better results than average.
4758  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Lottery guy bets entire BTC fortune and ... loses? :) on: June 18, 2011, 05:17:01 PM
So, as a proof that Bitlotto, the service, is not "cheat-proof" without a trusted escrow, here's excruciating step-by-step proof (sorry so long).  If you disagree, please tell me which particular step in my logic is flawed.

Step 6.

Step 6 is broken easily by the NOT indefinite amount of Bitcoins in the system.
The maximum amount of Bitcoins the lottery could hold are "total current Bitcoins - my Bitcoins", assuming that the lottery also runs the entire bitcoin system.

The worst chances of winning therefore are "My bitcoins/total bitcoins".

As soon as "My bitcoins" grows large enough, the lottery cannot any longer outbid me 1000-fold (or whatever is considered "virtually certain"). Assuming Satshi has 10% of all Bitcoins in posession and breach of trust (just taking the money and running away) is not cheating, but a different "attack", the maximum amount the lottery could bid against him would be 90% of all Bitcoins.

Long story short:
It is not possible for the lottery owner for arbitrary amounts to gain "virtual certainty" of winning. This means, he must impose maximum amounts that players are allowed to play each round to make sure he is always _able_ to overbid. Also just 1:100 or 1:1000 might not be enough, depending on the intended lifespan of such an endeavour, plus it would give less interest the better chances you want to have (if you overbid by 1000 each time, you just have 0.1% interest each round)
4759  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Buying Bitcoins from anyone interested to sell on: June 18, 2011, 04:21:04 PM
I like the disclaimer nster.  @bigzer.  If you really want to get in, it takes about 1 week to open a dwolla account, verify the bank account and finalize the first deposit.

How is this possible outside of the USA?
4760  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Multipool - the pool mining pool on: June 18, 2011, 04:11:39 PM
Multipool, a quick fyi - I notice that the results from btcmine were changing from 'pending' to being zeroed out, and then only 10 - 30 mins later showing the actual results. This was also affecting the page top stats for a while too. Screen scraping issue? Otherwise it was all simple and easy.

Here as well, I got 2 rounds at btcmine that are rewarded with 0 out of 5 rounds that are not pending any more - and interestingly they are in between rounds with payouts:
131504   Fri Jun 17 22:35:06 2011   145   179.681   0.00000000   0.000   0.00000000
131499   Fri Jun 17 22:01:12 2011   622   626.707   0.01991538   0.562   0.00000000
131469   Fri Jun 17 19:02:33 2011   93   108.445   0.00000000   0.000   0.00000000
Hope this helps in squashing bugs! Smiley
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