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4741  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: List of Major Bitcoin Heists, Thefts, Hacks, Scams, and Losses on: October 20, 2014, 12:26:47 PM
Though the list is interesting and informative, it can actually puts bitcoin in a negative spotlight. It will give an impression that holding on to btc is not safe but actually is not true which are all based on our own due diligence.

Lol.  Judging by Bitcoin's premiere securities exchange, Havelock Investments, all Bitcoin businesses either lose money honestly or run away.  From all the "securities" listed, not a single one proved to be profitable.
Not a one.
Including Havelock itself.
https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=HIF

  ~Happy Investing!
4742  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 20, 2014, 12:16:18 PM
We are going down with the ship!

Stay strong, Heroes!

4743  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER Speculation Thread on: October 20, 2014, 12:11:37 PM
Well there seems to be some rumbling in our moon-rocket.. .09 is definitely no longer the bottom.  

I would suggest with the Prisma in full shipping, anyone who was waiting to buy back in has simply lost their chance.



AM shareholder right?

I think you're the only one who follows this thread who is not a shareholder...

Nah, I drop by occasionally.  
BTW, careful about keeping stuff on Havelock.  It can't continue operating in the red indefinitely.  The losses may or may not stem from the proprietor's not sweating the details, like the difference between the numerals 2 and 3.  Not that numbers matter much in finance.



https://www.havelockinvestments.com/reportdownload.php?id=124
4744  Economy / Economics / Re: why do people agree to pay taxes? on: October 19, 2014, 07:44:29 PM
Robert Paulson, stop whining and revolt already.  You have nothing to lose but your chains!

We're waiting...



  ~Your Beneficent Reptilian Overlords.
4745  Economy / Speculation / Re: I'm All In - Sold My House! on: October 19, 2014, 07:29:53 PM
^The trusty "UR TROLL!" gambit.  To be countered with the "NO U" parry.
GG, bro Roll Eyes
4746  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 19, 2014, 06:39:06 PM
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There will be some big movement in the next few hours.  We will see approx $490 next week.
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Quoted for future lel...  Or tasty humble pie 4 me.
4747  Economy / Speculation / Re: I'm All In - Sold My House! on: October 19, 2014, 06:36:44 PM
well that one makes sense, as the internet is a disruptive immensely useful technology. like bitcoin. beanie babies are a decoration that was collectable because of a limited supply, and that is all. bitcoin has utility, beanie babies do not.

Unlike Beanie Babies and Bitcoin, no one ever tried to make money by buying internets.  Money was made by internet-based businesses Undecided

True but the internet was never in a fixed supply, unlike Bitcoin. However, as demand goes up we just move the decimal to the right to make up for it.

My point exactly.  Bitcoin has more in common with Beanie Babies than with the internet.
To make the internet analogy work, Bitcoin (the units) should be compared to IPv4 addys.  Invest in one now, the supply is limited and already running out!
4748  Economy / Speculation / Re: I'm All In - Sold My House! on: October 19, 2014, 06:17:26 PM
well that one makes sense, as the internet is a disruptive immensely useful technology. like bitcoin. beanie babies are a decoration that was collectable because of a limited supply, and that is all. bitcoin has utility, beanie babies do not.

Unlike Beanie Babies and Bitcoin, no one ever tried to make money by buying internets.  Money was made by internet-based businesses Undecided


4749  Economy / Speculation / Re: I'm All In - Sold My House! on: October 19, 2014, 05:20:33 PM
^
OTOH, "Bitcoin<=>internet" bit never gets old Cheesy
4750  Economy / Speculation / Re: I'm All In - Sold My House! on: October 19, 2014, 04:52:14 PM
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Internet enthusiasts probably heard the same. Now almost everyone in the West uses web browsers and is connected to the web by a smartphone.
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Yeah, so did Beanie Baby enthusiasts.  Now almost everyone in the West laughs at them.
4751  Economy / Speculation / Re: US exchanges coming online on: October 19, 2014, 03:39:41 PM
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Much of the problem is there are tons of people who think BTC= silk road. Why? Because that is what the media runs with. This casts a dark light on BTC, and people think that the only people who are into it or using it are only doing so for illegal activities. You can thank the media for that.

You can also thank bitcointalk users claiming black market is one of the reasons Bitcoin will succeed.  You can also thank all of the scams (Bitconica, Pirateat40, WeEx, TraderFortress, NeoBee, etc., etc.).  There's plenty of thanks to go 'round.

Edit:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=828540.0;viewResults
4752  Economy / Speculation / Re: US exchanges coming online on: October 19, 2014, 02:47:10 PM
...Those countries will become new regional bitcoin information centers...

4753  Economy / Speculation / Re: Correction is on the way... on: October 19, 2014, 02:40:47 PM
...idiots like you
...your fucked up version of the world
...could you be dumber?
...i should ignore you.

4754  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] SCRYPT 4 GH/s hosted scrypt mining project by CRYPTX on: October 19, 2014, 02:17:16 PM
That's why I voted for giving the shareholders the reinvestment fund. But apparently (as we have no way to check), the majority of shareholders voted to "wait" for the return of the messiah.



It would be nice if Havelock supported weighted shareholder polls, just like cryptostocks did.

Following this trend, it would be nice if:

Havelock forced listings to publish their financials.

Why would they do that?


*trading ~95% down from IPO price.
4755  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 19, 2014, 02:05:28 PM
4756  Economy / Speculation / Re: Correction is on the way... on: October 19, 2014, 01:45:59 PM
^
I didn't argue that the user base can't increase.  Only that those who are "likely to be both willing and able to sink heavy moolah into BTC" already know about it.  Nothing more.

So a pretty narrow argument then.

You agree the user base can rise by an order of magnitude easily from here. And you realise that currently the vast majority of investors (from a multi trillion dollar capital pool) do not have a tax efficient vehicle to obtain regulated exposure to btc yet.

Not sure why you are arguing that bitcoin is even remotely close to being saturated with investment demand, unless you are badly trolling, which you are. Wink

I'm not arguing that the Bitcoin market is saturated.  No more so than the Beanie Babies market is saturated.  Both can grow by several orders of magnitude.
Re. "[lacking]regulated exposure to btc":  Sure.  Exactly what makes "investing" in BTC a gamble.  Lack of regulations/legal recourse when the counterparty decides to own you.
Governments, banks, and payment processors all have an active interest in providing support/legal framework/jackbooted thugs for addressing fiat fraud. All these bodies benefit from reducing the risks of transacting in fiat.
To be fair, Bitcoin has maths and sciences to protect you from the likes of Bitconica, WeEx, Gox, NeoBee etc., etc.


4757  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 19, 2014, 12:55:53 PM
^
The wall on Huobi has been there overnight.
4758  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 19, 2014, 02:29:03 AM
For the love of all that is good and holy, please don't!  Nothing which looks that awful is free of evil.
4759  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 19, 2014, 02:21:04 AM
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You were lucky they were just playing frisbee. It could have been much worse.

Imagine a couple of stereotypical jaded NY kids seeing all that gorgeous West Coast shit for the first time--the stuff overwhelms you to the point that you drop your guard and everything is unironically beautiful and you're beginning to understand t ...WHAM!  NAKED OLD PEOPLE MOTHERFUCKER!
4760  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 19, 2014, 02:08:01 AM

If only you "sexy senior citizens" knew how revolting that is to the rest of us.  I remember being on the West Coast for the first time, driving the coastal highway with my (still recent) GF.  Pulled over for a walk on the beach as the sun started to set.  Stuff Harlequin Romance is made of:  Sunset, walking  barefoot down an empty beach hand-in-hand, love, thinking we're the only ones who matter in the whole world as we came onto a cove.
...With fricking aging naked hippies playing Frisbee, tits and dicks flapping all over the place and the fuckers start grinning at us, they throw us their frickin' Frisbee!
Ugh.
Just please, NO!

you're a bit uptight aren't you?

D00d, a whole rest home's worth of naked old people, do you understand what I'm saying to you!?!
This weren't just some gangly teens or homely adults--I'm talking flapping, sagging, swinging, shameless frickin' old hippies!  Playing Frisbee!  And grinning at us like it's not even the grossest thing in the world!
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