hdbuck
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October 16, 2014, 02:14:28 PM |
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Nice Note and nice Amount  for cat, from rock, best wishes  oh. wow. |
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ujka
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October 16, 2014, 04:43:13 PM |
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Nice Note and nice Amount for cat, from rock, best wishes oh. wow. And that receiving address, 1ERsz..., started mining at ghash on 24.09. with about 30btc/day. Before that, that address was receiving funds from 1H7FpBV8huVmPvt5eRzszAkgnERH2FaWvq which was mining at btcguild up to 21.09. with about 30btc/day. When did that 2ph miner at btcguild disapear from rankings page? |
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jjdub7
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October 17, 2014, 11:58:02 PM |
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Nice Note and nice Amount for cat, from rock, best wishes oh. wow. And that receiving address, 1ERsz..., started mining at ghash on 24.09. with about 30btc/day. Before that, that address was receiving funds from 1H7FpBV8huVmPvt5eRzszAkgnERH2FaWvq which was mining at btcguild up to 21.09. with about 30btc/day. When did that 2ph miner at btcguild disapear from rankings page? its really quite entertaining that regardless of how many times steve or i post about the tx's into what are obviously AM's accounts, nobody seems to care. |
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btcbot
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October 18, 2014, 08:13:03 AM |
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Please.... keep 'em coming! Very interesting during this silent period.
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Don't tip me... tip the Riseup folks who protect activists around the world. |
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funkymunky
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October 18, 2014, 09:46:13 AM |
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I agree, plus I'm glad only a few people seem to recognise it  Please.... keep 'em coming! Very interesting during this silent period.
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toffoo
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October 18, 2014, 11:25:40 AM |
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And that receiving address, 1ERsz..., started mining at ghash on 24.09. with about 30btc/day.
Before that, that address was receiving funds from 1H7FpBV8huVmPvt5eRzszAkgnERH2FaWvq which was mining at btcguild up to 21.09. with about 30btc/day.
When did that 2ph miner at btcguild disapear from rankings page?
Does Ghash.io have any ranking page like BTCGuild? I can't find anything. |
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Timetwister
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October 18, 2014, 01:44:43 PM |
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Under IPO we go @ 0.09BTC/share. Will we see 0.01BTC/share before the turn around? Long, cold winter for AM part deux.
The price depends on the expectations of the market participants. As long as we don't have any news, the price should keep decreasing. |
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jdany
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October 18, 2014, 03:22:25 PM |
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Blades + Block Eruptors + 20% Mining = an average around 0.0175 Bitcoin per share. (dividend)
Gen 2 disrupted the product cycle. Gen 2 killed the 20%.
FC eluded to getting back to 20% mining.
I didn't know the numbers on hardware the last time around...
Are the production numbers of Gen 3 chips and margins in the same ballpark as Gen 1 was?
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bobboooiie
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October 18, 2014, 03:24:19 PM |
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Blades + Block Eruptors + 20% Mining = an average around 0.0175 Bitcoin per share. (dividend)
Gen 2 disrupted the product cycle. Gen 2 killed the 20%.
FC eluded to getting back to 20% mining.
I didn't know the numbers on hardware the last time around...
Are the production numbers of Gen 3 chips and margins in the same ballpark as Gen 1 was?
What do you think? not even close |
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jdany
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October 18, 2014, 07:18:26 PM |
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I know it's tough to estimate the math - but how unclose is it?
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Fordee
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October 18, 2014, 07:48:50 PM |
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Gen 3's development cost is higher than Gen1 just even due to the licencing of development libraries for smaller size (Gen 1 was 130nm?).. and the returns are exponentially less, due to current hash rate and other players in the market.
In other words for the parts of this equation that affect divs and profits, very very unclose.
Think of how many 'chips' powered a block eruptor usb device that sold for 2BTC compared to how many are in a prisma tube...and the relative div return becomes apparent.
Even for self.mining, AsicMiner also had develop costs.for Ethernet controllers, PCB design layout, and all the costs of components for manufacturing... i would argue that the cost of producing chips (minus the mask) are son of the smaller expenses involved.
*very bearish..down over 95% since gen1 highs, apparently 'Holding' isnt the right approach to increase BTC.. With the lack of.communication, divs may be around the corner...we just dont know anymore.
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jdany
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October 18, 2014, 08:08:50 PM |
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So, in 2013, a chip could fetch $130. (BTC=$65)
In 2014, A tube had 96 chips for $416 or $4.33 per chip (BTC =$400)
What more do we know?
Do we know how many Gen1 chips were produced?
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Fordee
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October 19, 2014, 01:07:54 AM |
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Well there seems to be some rumbling in our moon-rocket.. .09 is definitely no longer the bottom.
I would suggest with the Prisma in full shipping, anyone who was waiting to buy back in has simply lost their chance.
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hdbuck
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October 19, 2014, 10:43:40 AM
Last edit: October 19, 2014, 11:22:55 AM by hdbuck |
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wow 10k BTC market cap..  so is ALC overvalued or AM undervalued?!  |
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drasted
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October 19, 2014, 11:51:45 AM |
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wow 10k BTC market cap.. so is ALC overvalued or AM undervalued?! That doesn't take into account shares that aren't on havelock though. |
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RoadStress
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October 19, 2014, 12:07:51 PM |
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Well there seems to be some rumbling in our moon-rocket.. .09 is definitely no longer the bottom.
I would suggest with the Prisma in full shipping, anyone who was waiting to buy back in has simply lost their chance.
AM shareholder right? |
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arnuschky
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October 19, 2014, 11:22:32 PM |
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wow 10k BTC market cap.. so is ALC overvalued or AM undervalued?! That doesn't take into account shares that aren't on havelock though. If you take the total number of shares (400000) with Havelock price you'll end up at a market cap of 49680 BTC. (There are less shares than that, but I couldn't find the number right now) |
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MilkyLep
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October 20, 2014, 04:06:16 AM |
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In the grand scheme of fiat, 20 million is like a raindrop into the financials of Goldman Sachs right?! If that doesn't make you feel better .... then go invest in ALC???   |
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wasubii
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October 20, 2014, 08:14:12 AM |
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Well there seems to be some rumbling in our moon-rocket.. .09 is definitely no longer the bottom.
I would suggest with the Prisma in full shipping, anyone who was waiting to buy back in has simply lost their chance.
AM shareholder right? I think you're the only one who follows this thread who is not a shareholder... |
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NotLambchop
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October 20, 2014, 12:11:37 PM |
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Well there seems to be some rumbling in our moon-rocket.. .09 is definitely no longer the bottom.
I would suggest with the Prisma in full shipping, anyone who was waiting to buy back in has simply lost their chance.
AM shareholder right? I think you're the only one who follows this thread who is not a shareholder... Nah, I drop by occasionally. BTW, careful about keeping stuff on Havelock. It can't continue operating in the red indefinitely. The losses may or may not stem from the proprietor's not sweating the details, like the difference between the numerals 2 and 3. Not that numbers matter much in finance.  https://www.havelockinvestments.com/reportdownload.php?id=124 |
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