Sure, but I'd rather have more positive trust instead. That's more important to me  eEubQ2hCtLPqXTskub7KYSoKrgfgyGyC2yFor real, though, I'm not expecting anything. Just glad we could help, but the work is not done. I will be building the new chain tomorrow to have plenty of time to test staking prior to the swap at block 16,000 ok sent 10,000 ecoin to that address. Make sure you get it before block 16k or that greedy/scammer dev will end up with it Vegas |
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Jeez you guys are so helpful lol.
I must say -- I've been over at hashtalk for a long time and all we're told there is basically bct is so mean. hahaha
That aside, thanks guys. I really appreciate the help.
Don't let this thread fool you. These forums are a pit of scum and human filth. That's why there are middle fingers in my signature now, I hate this shithole Its all an act to get all your btc MUHAHAHAHA!!! Vegas |
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For those of us that are not up to date with the 72+ pages of this thread, could you please add to the op (as you did w/ the update to newest version, and i thank you for that) what we must do to keep our coins?
As I understand it, I now must send my ecash to my bittrex wallet ASAP?
Thank you...
Yes. As long as they are on Bittrex before block 16,000, that's all you have to do until I post the new chain I still have to get Windows built for the newest update we pushed this evening Great & thanks for your prompt response, not to mention your philanthropy in helping us. That said, do I need to do anything to verify the coins I send on bittrex belong to me? If you need further help after block 16k , then post here and one of us will help you. Vegas |
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THIS POST IS IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ At block 16,000, the network will halt. At this point, there will be a snapshot of all balances on Bittrex. Any coins not there to be swapped will be lost forever. When we swap to the new chain, the first block mined will be worth the current moneysupply minus the 40,000 premine. Any balances not on Bittrex will be put into an address controlled entirely by me. Yes, that's right. If you don't swap your coins, they become mine. My balance is currently 0, and ideally it will remain that way after the swap because I seriously hope everyone is paying attention and gets in on time If you miss the swap, I will not do it manually after the snapshot. You have plenty of time to get them there. Any funds not swapped will become mine and will be used to further my plan for this coin or assist any community efforts that I deem worthy of funding. My standards are high, so your work quality should be, too, if you want my help for promotions. If you want to contribute to this fund, simply leave the amount you wish to deposit in your wallet and do not trade them in for the swap. Any amount will be accepted, but nothing is expected. All coins on Bittrex will be swapped to the new chain after block 16,000. Any coins left in wallets will be added to the development fund and used as I deem fit Sorry if this comes off abrasive, I don't intend it that way, I am just anxious to get to a chain that I know will stake and work properly from the beginning. If ocminer wants to post an address, feel free to send him some; he helped a lot today getting the pool back up right away to get this chain moving again Im gonna leave a tip in a wallet, but can you please post an address we can send E-cash directly to you? If OCminer is reading this, I will ask him to do the same. Both of you have gone WAYYY beyond to help the community with no promises, and you have never asked a thing. I cant thank you enough. Your message is not abrasive at all. Your a "straight to the point" kind of guy, and its just one of the reasons I like and respect you. Vegas |
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Spots will it speed up the climb to block 16,000 if everyone leaves the wallet open and unlocked? Did we establish that POS starts again at block 16000? Is it 8% daily for 21 days at block 16,000 or did you set a specific block number to end ultra high staking? There was some talk of 50% annual after 21 days. Did that change? It might just be that none of these details have been decided yet, and I may be thinking too far ahead, and thats ok too, just trying to keep up.
Thanks again.
Vegas
Proof of stake doesn't start til after pow and block 16000. from 7001 to 16000 there is zero reward for mining the blocks, if I understand what is being done. If that is the case, leaving your wallet open will have no effect. the blocks are generated by pow ,only, til then. correct me if im wrong. I kind of thought that too as POS is not active, but I wanted to help anyway I can. Vegas |
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Spots will it speed up the climb to block 16,000 if everyone leaves the wallet open and unlocked? Did we establish that POS starts again at block 16000? Is it 8% daily for 21 days at block 16,000 or did you set a specific block number to end ultra high staking? There was some talk of 50% annual after 21 days. Did that change? It might just be that none of these details have been decided yet, and I may be thinking too far ahead, and thats ok too, just trying to keep up.
Thanks again.
Vegas
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Ok so I can confirm the wallet can send funds to Bittrex. One small issue I encountered and another friend of mine did too, is "transaction failed". Its not a big deal if you get this, it just means your trying to send too much at once. So just cut the amount into smaller transactions thats all. Igotspots, I cant thank you enough for all youve done for the community, you saved a lot of asses!!!
Spots, I uploaded the funds to bittrex is there anything else miners/wallet holders need to do? Should we keep hash on the pools or not?
Vegas
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First I want to take the time and thank IgotSpots for rising to the occassion. I have such respect for you. You came here and stepped up and jump and and stayed with it, and never asked for anything, even when it was offered. Im now going to do my part and send my 12Ths to suprnova for 0 block rewards until we get moving. I did update to latest wallet, and I do have a question, do I need to blow out everything in the roaming folder (except wallet.dat), or should I just leave it at block 6000? Whats best Again , Igotspots, you are a true hero!!
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Richie we are having this discussion because it does not matter if the chain moves or not. The code is VERY dirty and even if it moves, it will fail AGAIN, and all the things that I am talking about such as coin swap and new chain, will have to be done, now or later, so why not now? Please if you have the time, read the thread and you will see the coin already stopped working once, and had to be forked. So, while we are waiting for the bittrex wallet to stake the price is DROPPING and DROPPING, THAT is why we need your help now. Please and thank you.
Also , why are so many people afraid to ask you to do your job? I keep seeing this on too many threads, and its concerning. I am your client, and I am asking in a respectful manner to please assist us. I will NEVER be afraid to ask you to do your job, NOT EVER. Thank you in advance. Letting the coins try to stake for 2 days, IS the easiest thing for you, AND the most costly to us.
Vegas
So your point is "Even if the dev showed up and even if it works for now, the dev needs to be fired - because it may cost us (me) money?". Seriously? No, that message was directed to Richie at Bittrex, and no I said nothing about wanting to get anyone fired. I wanted Richie at Bittrex to act on this situation sooner, and not make us sit here for 2 days doing nothing, when there is much work to be done no matter what. Vegas |
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Richie we are having this discussion because it does not matter if the chain moves or not. The code is VERY dirty and even if it moves, it will fail AGAIN, and all the things that I am talking about such as coin swap and new chain, will have to be done, now or later, so why not now? Please if you have the time, read the thread and you will see the coin already stopped working once, and had to be forked. So, while we are waiting for the bittrex wallet to stake the price is DROPPING and DROPPING, THAT is why we need your help now. Please and thank you.
Also , why are so many people afraid to ask you to do your job? I keep seeing this on too many threads, and its concerning. I am your client, and I am asking in a respectful manner to please assist us. I will NEVER be afraid to ask you to do your job, NOT EVER. Thank you in advance. Letting the coins try to stake for 2 days, IS the easiest thing for you, AND the most costly to us.
Vegas
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I think the idea of keeping the original Dev is a necessity and it would be a good idea to have him collaborate with a coder that desires to work on it... IGotSpots may not want to continue because of the coding flaws, if he does Great.
Spots what about cleaning up the code the best you can and lowering the POS difficulty and releasing a new beta wallet? Also bittrex is not staking the coin anymore. Wasnt the plan supposed to be Bittrex to massive stake the coin to get the chain going again? Some ideas.. 1. Starting pow again? Will this help? 2. A coin swap into one of your base clones? Vegas 1) I already have 1.1.1 done that restarts PoW for no reward, just so people can move coins for a swap if I do it 2) Yes, that is essential so I have a familiar base to work with that I am comfortable with in case any issues come up later 2a) I would rather work with something that we have already molded into what we need. I don't feel like rummaging through someone else's work Spectacular--- At this point, it's really up to the exchanges what will happen. I've already said what I need to do in order to feel comfortable enough putting my name on it and adding it to GorillaStake, spending time long term, etc. Three simple conditions, really, and are as follows: - A new chain. This one can be fixed, but it's really fucked up and I don't feel like wasting time searching for bullshit
- Premine destroyed. Whatever the premine was, the new chain would generate the current money supply minus premine amount. Community donations and bounties are fine, but premines are not
- Same genesis as MMXIV so I can group it into my merged shit later if I decide to, same as BALLS and 10k are (works fine if you know how to do it)
This would require two updates. First to get the old chain moving again (extend PoW for 0 reward), then an update to the new chain (which would generate current money supply minus premine for the swap). You would need to convince Richie and Bittrex to update twice and escrow the swap so nobody has to trust me to hold their money Or you could just wait it out, it'll probably stake eventually. I think it's messing with stake modifiers, which is what fucked BALLS up (maturity at 24 hours but wouldn't stake until 8.8 days) but I can't find the switch time so it's really hard to tell what bullshit is actually going on Well then I will contact Richie again, as E-money Dev has stated that he grants you full permission to control this coin. Ill stay in touch. Update: just PMed Richie and informed him that E-money dev has given permission in writing on this thread for Igotspots to takeover coin. I asked him to contact Igotspots to arrange the takeover. Vegas |
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No, I have no knowledge of coding. My expertise is in hardware repair. I would have certainly jumped in hours ago if I knew code. Let me be clear, Im not trying to give anyone a hard time, Im simply letting everyone know that Bittrex is NOT staking the wallet, and Spots admitted he cant find the fault. Im simply saying we need to look at other options, Im not complaining, please dont misunderstand.
Vegas
No, not at all-- I know you have a significant amount of knowledge from your site (which i also like) - and just thought you may know how to code.. This doesn't really have anything to do with knowing how to code. It's more knowing how to follow clues to lead you to a problem. The breadcrumbs have been picked up by crows, apparently, as they are leading me to dead ends Well Bittrex are done staking as now their wallet is back online. So I think it is safe to say we are all ears to you now. So whatever it takes , we need you to lead, and if that involves using one of your coins as a clone and a new chain and a coin swap, then thats what it is. Thank you again for being awesome. Vegas |
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No, I have no knowledge of coding. My expertise is in hardware repair. I would have certainly jumped in hours ago if I knew code. Let me be clear, Im not trying to give anyone a hard time, Im simply letting everyone know that Bittrex is NOT staking the wallet, and Spots admitted he cant find the fault. Im simply saying we need to look at other options, Im not complaining, please dont misunderstand. I was even starting to write to tranz of bottlecaps/Hobonickels. I am here to help, and do ANYTHING I can. We are WAYY past blame. Im looking for solutions.
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I just checked Bittrex and the wallet is not staking (NOT disabled). Im not being a nag, but it appears Bittrex failed, and it sounds like Spots is not able to find the problem.
Vegas
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I think the idea of keeping the original Dev is a necessity and it would be a good idea to have him collaborate with a coder that desires to work on it... IGotSpots may not want to continue because of the coding flaws, if he does Great.
Spots what about cleaning up the code the best you can and lowering the POS difficulty and releasing a new beta wallet? Also bittrex is not staking the coin anymore. Wasnt the plan supposed to be Bittrex to massive stake the coin to get the chain going again? Some ideas.. 1. Starting pow again? Will this help? 2. A coin swap into one of your base clones? Vegas |
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If someone else can fix what you guys have, please feel free. I mean that. I just can't figure out what is fucked up with the modifiers or if difficulty is the problem (which I would imagine a block would be found by now, especially with being unable to move them if that was the the case)
I wish I could figure it out, but I can't, and if I am going to take something new on long term, it has to be using a base I'm familiar with and am comfortable modifying later on for fixes. In my coins, I know where everything is and what it does. In this one, I'm smart enough to admit that the breadcrumbs of symptoms are not leading a clear path to diagnosing the root issue...for me at least
Spots, what CAN we try to get this working? You mentioned a new chain, and a few other ideas that involved 2 wallet swaps. The original E-money dev has already stated in writing on this thread that he grants you permission to take control of this coin, so Richie can see that, and it wont be an issue. Can we TRY something, even it we have to jump through a few hoops and a couple of wallet swaps, because if you cant fix it, there is no way the E-money dev can. I know you are connected to other devs, is there anyone that comes to mind that might be able to help? Vegas |
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Remember other developers who dump premine and vanish? Not me, I give it away and mine like everyone else. Making the coin too fair backfired though, and im sorry.
In the OP you mentioned a beta of the ad system in 3 weeks. Are you planning to do this work yourself or outsource it? The pre-mine would likely not go very far for the Dev work needed. Most importantly......do you have the resources to see this through as it sounds like it will require a great deal of time. It would be much more challenging if you are working on it on the side or when time permits. If you cannot follow through with the plan in the OP for whatever reason letting it go to someone else may be best. I agree with above, a clear direction is very important for many. (not all that may only be in it for 21 days or less) Bittrex is gonna massive stake this coin, I wonder where those coins go? Could they be released to OCminer for premine, and used for promotions? Vegas |
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I agree 1000% , I think e-money devs skills are in advertising and promotions, and I think he will promote it very well. He did the hardest thing, and that was to return to many angry people and a mess, and own up to it. So, it proves he can be trusted to stand by this coin, and have Igotspots as dev. I think its a great combo.
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I think this may have been your first coin. I was wrong about you, I see you DO have integrity, and THAT is more important than knowledge. That being said , maybe in the future with more experience maybe try another coin, because devs with honesty and integrity are VERY hard to find, I think there are about 5 total. Now, if you decide to make another coin, youll stand out for your integrity, and perhaps have a more experienced dev at your side as you code and have him look over things before code is released. Perhaps share the premine with them to clean the code before release.
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I think everyone is much calmer now you have returned. The most beneficial thing to do is to give everything to Igotspots. He knows what to do to get everything fixed, and his name alone will raise the price. I thank you for staying and working through a difficult situation. Thank you.
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