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4741  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 27, 2023, 09:36:32 PM
psa


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Tests conducted by Project Zero confirm that those four vulnerabilities allow an attacker to remotely compromise a phone at the baseband level with no user interaction, and require only that the attacker know the victim's phone number.

https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/


 Based on information from public websites that map chipsets to devices, affected products likely include:

    Mobile devices from Samsung, including those in the S22, M33, M13, M12, A71, A53, A33, A21s, A13, A12 and A04 series;
    Mobile devices from Vivo, including those in the S16, S15, S6, X70, X60 and X30 series;
    The Pixel 6 and Pixel 7 series of devices from Google; and
    any vehicles that use the Exynos Auto T5123 chipset.

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In the meantime, users with affected devices can protect themselves from the baseband remote code execution vulnerabilities mentioned in this post by turning off Wi-Fi calling and Voice-over-LTE (VoLTE) in their device settings,

I ordered a Sammy last night.  a53
4742  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Advice on useful bitcoin mining software. on: March 27, 2023, 05:27:52 PM
Hello everyone, I am new to mining and would like to know what software is used by professionals or just people who already have some experience in this field.

buy an asic machine

bitmain
Avalon
whatsminer


use their O.E.M. software

get good with it.


Then ask about aftermarket software pros and cons.
4743  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Chip temp. and immersion cooling on: March 27, 2023, 04:20:08 PM
Hello,

Does anyone tried to operate S19 series over 90C degree with immersion cooling ?

Do you expect any long term damage for a chip at 80-85 C into oil ?

Have a good day,


why would anyone try 90c when it is not spec?

I expect that 79c or lower is better than 80-85-90c

Whether you mine in air or oil a bit under top spec is better than over.
4744  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 27, 2023, 03:44:25 PM
Reason for dump:

Binance Sued by US Watchdog for Alleged Derivatives Rule Lapses

They are trying to “regulate”.
Of course they want to control, and have a saying on who sells what.

Bitcoin is not a security, so I would expcect a quick reversal of the move.

Derivatives are complex the lawsuit could be good if it strip’s derivatives away from btc.


edit we are under 27k

i may buy dip if we drop lower.
4745  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2023 Diff thread now opened. on: March 27, 2023, 01:20:29 PM
<big snip>

Weird that I don't see Bitmain asking already $10k for their XP, still on sale for $5k.
the word "sale" tho  Cheesy. ROI is still a dozen months.

And another sale!
We now have a pizza day event, claiming 50%. But the way this whole thing of NFT, reservation, U/T and coupons is just gibberish for me without at least two cups of coffee right now.


Fuck bitmain they still owe me a 30% coupon from a sale back in sept or oct of 2022.

The fucking rules for this 'sale' are so fucking complicated only a fool would buy that gear.

On topic I get 2 whatsminer m50 units today

they hash at 108+108 = 216 th cost 3770 burn 6 kwatts

or get this xp that does 140th cost over 3500 with shipping and wait a month burns 3.100 kwatts

If you are a 5 cent power guy the m50 units are far better deal.
4746  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2023 Diff thread now opened. on: March 27, 2023, 04:09:15 AM
Well if it did happen, it would certainly have to be people turning off BTC miners.

Without the slightest doubt, they are not being redirected to some other sha256d coin.

However, it makes no straight math sense at all to reduce your mining return by mining a short amount on both sides of a rising diff change.
This does guarantee a lower return across a diff rise, than just mining a longer period before.

Could be they have a glut of gear and switch off the sha to mine gpus or scrypt.

When eth was at its peak it did use a ton of power almost 75-80% of sha 256 .

So maybe a big farm of gpus grabbed a lot of btc gear and mine it most of the time.

And mine gpu a little as they slowly try to dump the excess gpus.

Last Sept 2022 sha 256 btc used more power then any mining
gpu eth used second amount
scrypt was third.

when I look at scrypt and etc now they should show upticks the last two days.

Ltc shows a strong hashrate uptick the last two days.

125 th

that would be 110 x 125 = 13000 l7 units

or 125000 L3 + units if it is L3+ units that is 800  x 125000= 100,000,000 watts

or 100,000 kwatts which is 33,333 S19s

which is 3,333,300th. thats 3,333ph or 3.3333 eh

which does not mean enough to drop rates the drop we just had.

So while it is really weird repeating pattern its not switching to mine scrypt or doge or etc.

4747  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fuhrer Putin criminal on: March 27, 2023, 03:35:42 AM
~

Anybody can issue an arrest warrant for anybody else. Or, anybody can get together with a few friends, and together they can issue an arrest warrant for anybody. You can even do it, right? But why?

An arrest warrant doesn't mean anything except that there is strength behind it to do the arrest. Otherwise it is just babble. The question is, what strength do the issuers of an arrest warrant for Putin have? I don't see anybody stopping Russia from killing Ukrainian soldiers.

Cool

We are trying but it is dicks like you who are in a way.

As for Putin, I think he will become more aggressive toward his population as more problems suddenly appear in front of him.
I say his population because he owns Russians. Once the oil wells start shutting down, he will go ballistic. We are about $20 from it.

He will never turn himself in. Gangsters never do.

He will have to be captured, dead or alive.


Why thank you. I didn't realize you thought that I had that much influence or power, lol.

Biden (Obama) and the gang are the ones who pushed their way into Ukraine, and started the killing from there long ago. All that Russia is doing is responding in as gentle of a way as possible.

Putin isn't an angel, but he is way closer to one than Biden.

Cool

  President Regan was instrumental in the libration of the Ukraine in the 1980s.

Putin invaded when Obama was President.

If he did not annex part of the Ukraine then this issue never would have happened.

If you have complaints tehy would be against President Regan for crushing The USSR in the 80s

Or blame Stalin for occupying many countries after WWII.

BTW it is all a con as tank and gun guys make a shit ton of money on deaths of people.

Over and over and over.
4748  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Gordon Moore, creator of Moore's Law, co-founder of Intel has died. on: March 27, 2023, 03:20:19 AM
RIP, I thought his prediction laws were no longer applicable to the current advances. Maybe I was wrong.🤔
No they aren't (and never were) 'Laws'
They completely ignored physics limitations.

yeah they were more of a way to dumb down speed increases in processing.

but much like a car and a gallon of gas there is a limit to how much you can increase efficiency.

Ie no standard gas burning car will get 1000 miles to the gallon.

and no asic miner will do 1 watt per th for the sha 256 algo.

as for 1000 miles a gallon
or 1 watt per th being impossible limits that wont be met we can call it Phil’s Law.😀
4749  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why was Ordinal NFTs created? on: March 26, 2023, 10:56:06 PM
Well it was created because it could be created. Anything that can be created will be created. The creator of Ordinals realized there was a way to spam data into transactions, an unintended consequence that was left open in the Taproot upgrade. People don't like it because it spams data into transactions, therefore filling up blocks with arbitrary data in the form of NFTs rather than monetary transaction data.

It's an interesting use of bitcoin, but it in no way helps Bitcoin, while it does hurt Bitcoin's ability to perform monetary transactions on-chain, which as we all know was already at a premium. Unfortunately there is a market for lame collections of digital images to be sold for money and therefore the economics of NFTs is such that the transaction fees are worth sending them around on Bitcoin.

Imagine you have a four lane highway and then someone realizes that there is no rule against circuses marching along the highway. Suddenly you've got several lanes filled up with a circus act while the people actually trying to travel have to be stuffed into one or two lanes instead of four. And there is a small but sufficient amount of those people who are willing to pay to watch the circus in the other lanes so the circus act clogging up the road is economically viable. That's what NFTs does to Bitcoin.




An interesting idea to think about is if NFTs end up spamming Bitcoin so much that they take over the chain, will it end up being in the best interest of Bitcoin to hard fork away with an anti-Ordinals upgrade and leave the original blockchain as a dead-end NFT-focused s**tcoin. That would be a very drastic scenario but Ordinals is essentially a spam attack on Bitcoin that is unlikely to go away as it seems even though the NFT fad largely died off already there are still enough people interested in paying money for cheap collections of digital images on the blockchain that the economics of NFTs are still worth it. The general consensus of the Bitcoin is to keep the chain immutable and not hard fork, but in cases such as this where unintended consequences of upgrades end up attacking Bitcoin and making it less useful the community may at some point need to consider moving the chain on to an upgrade that isn't compatible with such an attack, unless a soft-fork to stop Ordinals is possible.


But the answer to the questions is it was created because it could be. And yes it is an interesting use of Bitcoin, it's just not a good use of Bitcoin, due to Bitcoin being the digital currency for all of humanity and transaction space being at a premium. The last thing Bitcoin needs is arbitrary non-currency data lessening its ability to move money around.

Your opinion is it is spam. Others believe it to be art.

https://www.moma.org/learn/moma_learning/_assets/www.moma.org/wp/moma_learning/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Warhol.-Soup-Cans-469x292.jpg


is the above art?  mom.org says it is.

so you may not like it but if blockchain art is deleted I smell lawsuits.

Best you can do is set a future date to stop new additions.

Which will make the ones on the chain  now more costly.
4750  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why was Ordinal NFTs created? on: March 26, 2023, 05:23:03 PM
Think of the blockchain as a road.

When it was built it was designed to handle data traffic.

So someone has figured a way to put data on the chain and monetize it.

ie ordinals.

Arguing against ordinal traffic is pretty much like arguing against single occupied cars on highways.

They crowd the road bla bla bla.

Most people simply don’t understand the value of ordinals or nfts.

Simply small in the box thinking.
4751  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: America's first nuclear-powered bitcoin mining farm on: March 26, 2023, 02:54:51 PM
I don't think that nuclear energy is cheap because waste disposal is very expensive.
I mean as per the rate quoted in the article. It seems pretty cheap which means the operational costs could also be cheap but anyways i really don't know much about what it takes to set up a nuclear plant.

Maybe they are just given discounted tariffs as per an agreement.
...
A simple Google search using "how much does a nuclear power plant cost to build" will answer that... In short, it is many billions of $$$ though at least in the US a huge part of that is from time lost (in some cases decades) and legal expenses due to every 'environmental' group in any given country fighting them in court. In more than a few cases construction was drawn out for so long that it became necessary to finish building the power plants to use natural gas fired steam turbines instead of carbon-neutral reactors as the heat source. One Poster Child for that is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midland_Cogeneration_Venture

That link also highlights the primary safety hazard associated with nuclear power - the absolute need to get all of the engineering points right! IF done using what should be common-sense design and operations rules nuclear power IS safer, cleaner, and certainly more stable than almost any way of generating utility-scale electric power.

Ya know, things like: do not build on the shore of an ocean bay at risk from tsunami and if you do - at least locate the backup power generators above any possible flood line (Fukushima), do not run 'what if' tests on an already sketchy reactor design using an operational reactor (Chernobyl), make sure ALL build inspections are accurate, operation centers are thoughtfully laid out and operators are properly trained (TMI), be sure to build on stable ground (would have been an issue with the Midland reactors), do not build near an earthquake fault line (San Onofre closed before anything happened, also several falsified inspections found, botched repairs), etc.

That said it must be pointed out that because of its stringent design, build, and operations rules the US Naval nuclear program has had only 1 significant incident. That single one was a coolant leak that resulted in full immediate SCRAM shutdown of the reactor. ref https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_naval_reactors
From that link:
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Since its inception in 1948, the U.S. Navy nuclear program has developed 27 different plant designs, installed them in 210 nuclear-powered ships, taken 500 reactor cores into operation, and accumulated over 5,400 reactor years of operation and 128,000,000 miles safely steamed.
Too bad the Russian program has never been as careful...

As for discounted tariff: Ja. As others have said, the mining farm is right next to the power plant so in a sense the farm is 'behind the meter' in that there is next to no transmission costs involved. Yes obviously the power plant is metering the farm, just separately from what is being sent out to 'The Grid'.

Now one might ask, "why would a utility give such a low rate to the farm"?.
Simple: Any power plant needs a stable base-line load to run at best efficiencies. Mining farms pulling 10's of MW are as stable of a load as it gets. Couple that with the power plant being in a region that is not heavily developed with heavy industries or cities near it (yet) and a rather long distance to The Grid's high tension lines it becomes simple economics with the Utility who is running the power plant making more money by supplying power to the farm vs selling it on The Grid.

Being a brand-new fully-fueled Nuclear plant and therefore immune to the fluctuating costs of natural gas/oil/coal and for the next decade or so, uranium, the Utility is able to provide TerraWulf that sweet 5-year power contract. A rare Win-Win for all parties involved!  Grin

about 1.50 to run one s19j pro 100th which cost 1500 or less
and it makes 7.50 a day or 6 profit

so in 10 months 1800 or a bit more then breakeven. not bad at all
4752  Economy / Economics / Re: Cheap food: can you beat this price in your country? on: March 26, 2023, 03:28:35 AM
I work on contract in many third world countries and I see what malnutrition does to people, so I will not recommend people going on a diet like that for extended periods. People should eat a balanced diet that meets their daily nutritional needs, if they can... so add some fruit and sugar and more protein to that meal.  Wink

Some of the people in the rural towns are doing wonders with the little amount of money that they earn...but they still eat a very balanced diet. (Trading crops and skills between each other)

I also saw that some people in the US that are living off discount coupons and barely paying for food. (Some even manage to get money back from the shop, if they work it out correctly)  Roll Eyes

In the 90’s I could routinely get 65% off my weekly grocery bill.

It has become much more difficult to do that.

I got $115 bill reduced to $5 best reduction I ever did.

Now shopping for discounts in USA is not that easy.

You may get one or two free turkeys during Easter and Christmas.

Maybe 10 or 15 pounds of matzo during passover.

Low priced carrots, potato’s, cabbage for St Patricks day. Also low priced Irish cheese and Butter.

The corned beef is not as low cost as it was.
The Irish soda bread is not a big discount.

I mentioned before a few pages ago they had a good deal to make a huge pot of Chicken soup.

The chicken soup deal and the turkey deal are very good for health. Low carbs low fat and high quality protein.
4753  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Bitcoin mining difficulty rises 7.6% to set new all-time high as hashrate jumps on: March 26, 2023, 12:11:16 AM
yeah there are a few threads under bot attack as well. makes it a bit of a drag to see if something is worth reading.

On topic I added 2 s19 j pros this week and I have 2 whatsminer m50 units due on Tuesday.

this will push us to 2.0ph + .770 ph = 2.77 ph

So I am contributing to the 7% uptick.

We are nearing limits unless we buy a container.
4754  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 26, 2023, 12:07:31 AM

I don't mind some spam but this is too much
4755  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 25, 2023, 11:11:43 PM
I sent a pm to infofront
4756  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2023 Diff thread now opened. on: March 25, 2023, 10:37:52 PM
Variance is highest when sample size is smallest Smiley
As the sample size grows, the affects of long and short blocks is reduced.

yes but 65 blocks before the jump and 200 blocks after the jump add up to 265 blocks which is a fair amount of blocks

And the variance occurs at the same times. late end early beginning.

we were +27% for last 65 blocks and +14 % for first 200 blocks.

now we are down to +8%.  Just saying it looks less random if it occurs constantly in the same block ranges.

I do agree it means tons of gear.

To go +27% from 1950 to 2016 means the 66 blocks should be 50. It is not that big a deal. To continue at +14% for 200 blocks after.

seems like gear was fired up for a stretch of 266 blocks then backed off. But who is to say

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https://www.bitrawr.com/difficulty-estimator


Latest Block:   782610  (7 minutes ago)

Current Pace:   104.2424%  (403 / 386.60 expected, 16.4 ahead)

Previous Difficulty:   43551722213590.37                            
Current Difficulty:   46843400286276.55                            
Next Difficulty:   between 47561863313584 and 48896018121339
Next Difficulty Change:   between +1.5338% and +4.3819%
Previous Retarget:   last Thursday at 6:11 PM  (+7.5581%)
Next Retarget (earliest):   April 6, 2023 at 4:31 AM  (in 10d 17h 53m 33s)
Next Retarget (latest):   April 6, 2023 at 1:16 PM  (in 11d 2h 38m 46s)
Projected Epoch Length:   between 13d 10h 19m 32s and 13d 19h 4m 45s
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and down to 4.47%
4757  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: America's first nuclear-powered bitcoin mining farm on: March 25, 2023, 04:16:51 PM
No matter how cheap Nuclear power gets I ain't investing a penny on it, the disadvantages of Nuclear power is what you don't want to experience, it's unforgiving and cruel, I will rather use wind power or power from the SUN, these two are safer and home-friendly, also if you are living in the U.S there is no need to pay the ridiculous percentage on Grid power since you won't be needing it.

You do realize that if Nuclear plants convert to fusion based systems the worlds energy crisis ends.
4758  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 25, 2023, 03:35:14 PM

oh cool did you did die

 in the Patterson NJ Pickle king fire?

https://newjersey.news12.com/pickle-king-factory-in-paterson-destroyed-by-fire


Better yet maybe you became a chocolate mess

https://www.yahoo.com/news/six-injured-blast-pennsylvania-chocolate-013258990.html


and as for mining I added 2 miners this week
I have 2 more coming next week
4759  Other / Meta / Re: Five legendaries you know with the highest posts/merits on: March 25, 2023, 03:29:38 PM

me

most posts over 40000

a lot of merit over 5000
How did this happen?
Apart from the fact that you registered as far back as 2012, without wearing signatures, it's difficult to achieve 40k+ posts.
Was there a time you wore Chipmixer or Stake signature?
Besides, from 2012 till date is about a decade; does it mean that you have been available here every month and year since you registered.
I asked because what I know about some old forum participants is at a time they will abandon the forum and some years later they'll return.
I read that some old participants left when there was massive spam somewhere 2018, which I assume there was no merit system then.

I post.

I used to be on other blogs on the net.

Mac mini forum now dead 3 or 4 k posts
Mac rumors                      6k posts - - - - - - - still post here
parts express                   5k posts
anandtech                       1k posts
evga                                1k posts

I used to give away bitcoin from 2013 to 2015        so I did  some signatures.  nicehash for a while

I ran  yearly difficulty threads still do .  but gave away around 7 btc back in the day to promote btc

I did a short signature campaign last summer for NFT's as a believe in it as a form of art.

but for the 10+ years here maybe 3 years of signatures and 7 of no signatures.


I come on to this site at a rate of over 98% since 2012.

I would say more like  3600 of 3650 days. that would be 98.6% of the days.
4760  Economy / Economics / Re: Cheap food: can you beat this price in your country? on: March 25, 2023, 03:22:30 PM
How about this. New Jersey USA ShopRite offers a free turkey for easter. If you shop $400 in purchases for 6 weeks prior to easter. I spend 100 a week there :

So I got a 21 pound turkey cost 0
Six bags of frozen veg cost       6 bucks
1 gallon of filtered water cost   10 cents
1 dollar to cook turkey              1 dollar.

I ate 1 leg. the drumstick my wife ate the thigh


rest went into a soup     about 13 pounds of meat six pounds of veg. a little bit of dried spices



net cost well under 10 dollars likely will serve 20 large bowls of food. so 50 cents for a very healthy meal.

But once again only for the easter special and they also do it for Christmas .

SO for under 20 bucks 40 bowls of very healthy low carb high protein food .
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