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4761  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2019, 12:23:48 AM
I should probably write $5,500 and not $5,5000

55000 would be nice, though.
micg is writing responses so fast that one have difficulty correcting typos  Grin
4762  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2019, 07:08:30 PM

plus 27.6% tax in US, which makes it a nonstarter for anyone with more than 5c/kwh.
4763  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2019, 06:31:11 PM
What do vegans have against eating eggs though? IF the chickens were kept in a wide place outside, ate healthy food, and were not abused in any way?

Chickens lay eggs regardless of if fertilised or not. So whats the problem?

If you only stop eating meat, you are a: Pescotarian. (That’s what Mic & me are)
And really I didn’t push him, he feels sorry for the animals.


Right. There is also pesca-pescatarian...
https://youtu.be/IC-ZBJ-Kw2E?t=25

jk

I am cool with any diet (as long as I don't have to be convinced otherwise), same as religion.
Once it starts to involve moral issues, it's a slippery slope.

BTW, some cholesterol is good for you.
A couple of examples:
1. Without cholesterol your cells' membranes would freeze during winter like butter in the freezer, resulting in an effect similar to liquid N2 treated terminator (in T2).
2. Without cholesterol, men would get no testosterone and females no estrogen, which would be a bummer.
4764  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2019, 11:42:59 PM
Also check out Metformin, a diabetes pill that is now under testing for prolonging life.
https://www.wired.com/story/this-pill-promises-to-extend-life-for-a-nickel-a-pop/
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02432287

yeah...watch out if they will find something positive...immediately the price would go from 5c to $100-1k a pill.
It would be worth it, right?
I remember how during the first swine flu the cost of a weekly dose of tamiflu went from $10-20 to $300 or higher on the internet (local pharmacies were out for months).
It was worth it as well, just as $20 per btc tx was in December of 2017. People went crazy trying to get in the block immediately.

Not a problem if you get it on a prescription where I live (max price for meds is  240ish USD per 12 month period, some, like insulin, are no cost.


yeah, not sure what is better since you probably paid the last 40 years for it in higher taxes.
Once you are old(er), I agree that the fixed price med cost is the best, but our respective countries are set up in a way that precludes 'jumping ship" and enjoying what is more advantageous to you when you want it, right?
I had japanese friends in US and they all told me that US is better for younger people with more chances to advance over the "old guard", but they all wanted to go back when they are older because of more respect for older generation in Japan. US varies in different regions too.
4765  Economy / Speculation / Re: BETI: Bitcoin Exponential Trend Index and technical analysis on: February 17, 2019, 11:28:55 PM

right now BETI is about -2.09.
About 29K at BETI=0
80K at BETI=1.0 (as the last peak).

However, this is just for today.
80K number might have no meaning (not close to any round number) in a year or two.
4766  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2019, 10:55:48 PM
Also check out Metformin, a diabetes pill that is now under testing for prolonging life.
https://www.wired.com/story/this-pill-promises-to-extend-life-for-a-nickel-a-pop/
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02432287

yeah...watch out if they will find something positive...immediately the price would go from 5c to $100-1k a pill.
It would be worth it, right?
I remember how during the first swine flu the cost of a weekly dose of tamiflu went from $10-20 to $300 or higher on the internet (local pharmacies were out for months).
It was worth it as well, just as $20 per btc tx was in December of 2017. People went crazy trying to get in the block immediately.
4767  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2019, 09:40:24 PM
telomers would not solve anything, you would get more cancer as a side effect (a fact).

AFAIK, only causes cancer once the "original protective" telomeres have been naturally degraded.

Theoretically, a solution can be found if there is a way to bio-engineer a way to do this in-utero or as a "vaccine" upon birth.

it could, but short telomers are mostly associated with aging.
The most relevant quote is this:
Quote
Although tumors may arise from cells with short telomeres and chromosomal instability, telomerase activation and telomere maintenance are requisites for the progression of most human tumor types.

If you are into this stuff, here is an excellent review (with free access):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3896987/

4768  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2019, 07:27:40 PM
Massive clinical trials for anti-aging are taking place atm..here is one off the top of my head. I think there is a real possibility that we could be one of the last generations to die.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30616998

https://www.sciencealert.com/experimental-anti-aging-treatment-that-kills-old-cells-has-passed-first-human-trial
Man wasn't meant to live forever, we don't need a 1000 year reigning Nero.

it's funny for you to say that.
Wasn't Methuselah 969 year old when he died, according to Genesis (5:27).
4769  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2019, 07:23:47 PM
Life preservation.
It's lobsters, all the way down.
Need more telomeres.



motherfucker...1sm

telomers would not solve anything, you would get more cancer as a side effect (a fact).
4770  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2019, 07:20:58 PM
Massive clinical trials for anti-aging are taking place atm..here is one off the top of my head. I think there is a real possibility that we could be one of the last generations to die.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30616998

https://www.sciencealert.com/experimental-anti-aging-treatment-that-kills-old-cells-has-passed-first-human-trial

That's the study i was talking about somewhere above, but it is just a start.
Personally, I don't like SENS and A. de Gray. Too much ideology and too little actual science.
However, extending life as a gradual process appeals to me.
Extended 10 years, then during these years, maybe something that extends 20 years would be found, etc, etc.

I would gladly dispose of most of my crypto (mostly btc) if there is a reliable, albeit expensive treatment, but only under a condition that it is a 'healthspan".
It only makes sense if you feel and look younger.
4771  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2019, 07:03:16 PM
But I am special and different goddammit and the human race will be poorer if I were to die. Ever.

like this: "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain..."

Oh, well, but let's fight for it, although chances are slim.
4772  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2019, 05:59:36 PM
LOL:

Quote
Websites banned in China as of February, 2019:

- Google Search
- Yahoo
- Facebook
- YouTube
- Wikipedia (Chinese)
- Twitter
- Netflix
- Reddit
- Instagram
- Tumblr
- WhatsApp
- BBC
- New York Times
- The Independent
Do they have internet anymore 😛

They have tencent (literally) in a form of wechat.

4773  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2019, 05:50:24 PM
Actually age is degradation in the cells.

When you are younger they regenerate fine.

The challenge is to halt or reverse this degradation.

I believe there are current successful studies, stimulating the repair function back into order.




That's the whole "senescent cells" approach. Basically tries to kill senescent cells (cells that stop dividing) which accumulate with age. Human trials are starting this year by the way.

I know a bit about this approach, called senolytics. One problem is that aging is not considered a disease, so companies have to pursue some aging effects indirectly.
However, senolytics do not significantly increase the lifespan (so far), but they do affect the 'healthspan'. In animal trials, older mice became more healthy, but the average life duration was not affected. There were similar preliminary results (first part) in a first pre-clinical human trial.

A typical senolytic cocktail includes desatinib and quercetin.
Medical grade desatinib is expensive and is an anti-cancer drug needing prescription, so, personally, I decided not to bother with sourcing it for a simple reason that we would probably have something better (less toxic) in 5-10 years.
Quercetin, on the other hand, is readily available, is a naturally occurring molecule (present in apple's peels and in blueberries), so i did try it for a month, which is what one clinical trial did.
No discernible effects one way or another, apart from feeling slightly better (a bit more "robust"), but, of course, I did not do a proper study, so it could be purely psychological.
I would probably pause for a month and do it again. Three weeks on D+Q was the duration of the first human trial, so i also used a similar time frame (without D).
4774  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2019, 01:54:53 AM
when rain continues
'tis hard to philosophize
on heaven's weather
4775  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2019, 02:42:54 AM
if nntaleb likes bitcoin, does it mean that Universa 'likes' it too?
murad is panicking.
lol
4776  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2019, 12:21:21 AM
Hmmm what you recommend I try to get my wife to watch?   Something like Game of Thrones would be good.

"Counterpart"...a bit brainy and dark (weird premise, but I kind of dig it).
Shows how a single decision can upend your life.
Minimalist acting, which EU/UK folks may like, episodes shot in Berlin and Los Angeles (the latter location was a surprise to me).

Night Mic

I've heard 'The Wire' is quite good.

And 'The West Wing'

But I'm not quite up to date.

Ok might try those. Also season 2 of West World.

Sorry, not season 2 of Westworld for my taste.
Too much "cranberry syrup".
4777  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 15, 2019, 11:22:04 PM
survived the damn first two episodes
but the GF is happy
good points Micg

episodes of what?
sorry pal, perhaps I missed a que.


twitteraties keep posting it, but the fella (character, of course) was shot soon afterwards.
4778  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 15, 2019, 10:07:12 PM
This shit is not breaking down. Big money is buying. They are patient. It will creep up till ETF approval on 31/03. Bakkt will come when we least expect. Big alts will push up. Retail will prick up its ears. Hats will happily be eaten. Resistance is futile.



The 2019/2020 consolidation phase in Bitcoin will be the most commonly anticipated, predicted and understood consolidation phase in history.

Well, that might have been the $6500 flat. Almost everyone thought that it was the bottom. Surprise, surprise.
Will this waterfall repeat in this cycle? It could, but I doubt it.
4779  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 15, 2019, 09:36:40 PM
Get some TM

Get just 0.226 BTC and you will be among top 1% of possible btc holders*.

*assuming that btc will be wildly accepted and EVERYONE will have some of it.


PS

I am not saying that 0.226 will make you a top 1% of current btc holders (to be 1% among current holders you need about 15BTC).
Top 1% in fiat (by wealth) have just $871K according to Credit Suisse, so invest at least $814 (0.226 BTC), then do nothing.
If btc would "consume" fiat, then you are golden, or rather "bitcoined".

I might send this simple message to some of my no-coiner friends.
If they ignore it now...oh, well.
$814 is a sum most people in OECD countries can afford to "invest" on a risky venture.
4780  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 15, 2019, 05:03:10 AM

the same a-holes might be playing the same games with two (or probably more) different coins, that's all.
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