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I have never lied once about the matter. It could have been clearer from the beginning that I certainly agree with.
I assume you are confident in your own abilities considering you are in a position to write an opinion on me. So yes come to Cyprus and show me how it is done, or is that too much of a challenge?
If you have no abilities other than making personal comments whilst protected by your keyboard, then I shall ignore you as everyone else does.
Oh and I never drink.
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Everyone and No-one is working on this issue.
The BTC is going to be returned but has also vanished.
No updates or information can be provided apart from some updates and information
I am really confused....
Well, if you see the world in a such a polarised way it does get confusing - did you read the posts? Danny is the CEO of Neo. Danny is working in his own time to resolve the situation, he is doing it in his own time rather than expending staff time on it. For legal reasons (ie basic confidentiality) he cannot spread details far and wide on an internet forum. He is doing it to show that not everyone in crypto start ups is a scam artist. Its that simple. If you prefer something more devious and elaborate I suggest looking at 'Occams Razor'. What's even simpler are these two mutually-contradictory statements by Danny: Everyone at Neo & Bee are now involved in this resolution process.
and When I say no monetary cost, then NO ONE who works for Neo & Bee is involved, then I mean just that.
Hey Crumbs, so when you starting up to show me how it is done? I beg your pardon? I am clearly so bad (in your eyes) that you can do everything better. Well I assume that to be the case if you can make the same repeated comments about the subject. So logic must state that you are confident. If that is the case, you should come to Cyprus and compete with our business. It shouldn't be too hard for you. Yes everyone is involved but only when I need them on their own personal time for advice, comments etc. |
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Everyone and No-one is working on this issue.
The BTC is going to be returned but has also vanished.
No updates or information can be provided apart from some updates and information
I am really confused....
Well, if you see the world in a such a polarised way it does get confusing - did you read the posts? Danny is the CEO of Neo. Danny is working in his own time to resolve the situation, he is doing it in his own time rather than expending staff time on it. For legal reasons (ie basic confidentiality) he cannot spread details far and wide on an internet forum. He is doing it to show that not everyone in crypto start ups is a scam artist. Its that simple. If you prefer something more devious and elaborate I suggest looking at 'Occams Razor'. What's even simpler are these two mutually-contradictory statements by Danny: Everyone at Neo & Bee are now involved in this resolution process.
and When I say no monetary cost, then NO ONE who works for Neo & Bee is involved, then I mean just that.
Hey Crumbs, so when you starting up to show me how it is done? |
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I am guessing you are an AsicMiner shareholder, Ukyo isnt receiving those dividends as has been stated in the relevant thread.
Your point about the media etc, is great until you read recent articles in the Cypriot media about inputs.io.....
We will have the Bitcoin held on our servers insured, so yes we are different to everything that has been before us.
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When this is over and done with, everyone has their coins back in a timely manner and we launch a service aimed towards the Bitcoin community, where trust has been shattered more than once to say the least. We then have a competitor. When a user makes a decision as to which offering they will choose.
Will they go for the one who is headed by a CEO that has a proven record of fixing things that go wrong or the competitor?
Neo & Bee has no legal obligation to the resolution process.
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Those that want to pursue action are free to do so, I have made that perfectly clear.
The people I have at Neo and Bee are available to me for advice, ideas in their free time. Also every contact I have are available to me. I am also the focal point of all things Neo & Bee, people know me as Danny from Neo.
My last comment on this matter in here, is something for you to ponder.
If you are a shareholder and I solve this "if" there is a positive impact on Neo & Bee because of it, which translates as profits thus dividends. Do we do a special calculation on your dividends excluding these theoretical profits?
I am sure everyone else would like it to be distributed to them instead.
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The WeEx mess doesn't have any negative implications or monetary cost for Neo & Bee, I already stated that. Right at the start of all of this.
does it have any positive implications? what non-monetary costs are involved? My time is a cost, we are moving forward with our existing and original positive plans. This is getting absurd. You are the only one working on this problem? No one else who draws pay? No lawyers? When I say no monetary cost, then NO ONE who works for Neo & Bee is involved, then I mean just that. I do have personal time, which is currently being spent resolving issues for those with Bitcoin at stake. How can solving such an issue be negative on any reputation? Just to be clear: Involvement with Ukyo is just you, on your personal time, and not Neo & Bee. Correct? Correct. It is just me resolving the issue, some others have an input to the solutions, but they are doing that on their own free time. As it is no secret that I am behind Neo & Bee, I took the decision to let everyone know that I am involved personally with the situation. I have already stated several times that we are not, and neither am I bailing anyone out. |
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The WeEx mess doesn't have any negative implications or monetary cost for Neo & Bee, I already stated that. Right at the start of all of this.
does it have any positive implications? what non-monetary costs are involved? My time is a cost, we are moving forward with our existing and original positive plans. This is getting absurd. You are the only one working on this problem? No one else who draws pay? No lawyers? When I say no monetary cost, then NO ONE who works for Neo & Bee is involved, then I mean just that. I do have personal time, which is currently being spent resolving issues for those with Bitcoin at stake. How can solving such an issue be negative on any reputation? |
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The WeEx mess doesn't have any negative implications or monetary cost for Neo & Bee, I already stated that. Right at the start of all of this.
does it have any positive implications? what non-monetary costs are involved? My time is a cost, we are moving forward with our existing and original positive plans. |
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Vela - there is a thread for WeExchange and you can always PM Danny directly (and respectfully).
This is a concern for shareholders of NeoBee, and as such, it is appropriate for Danny to address the issue here. I won't PM Danny. He can clarify things out in the open right here for all shareholders to see (as promised). I'm not trying to get insider information, here. I am asking for the level of transparency that Danny said he would provide. The WeEx mess doesn't have any negative implications or monetary cost for Neo & Bee, I already stated that. Right at the start of all of this. |
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I am looking forward to speaking about Bitcoin in front of the Cypriot media, government officials and academics on December 19th  |
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So, most of the people prefer keep the money at home instead of using banks because of government restrictions, that's what I understood from the translation. Surely this business is going to be a good solution to this problem if it comes to existence as it is planned and people understand it.
If bitcoin has a chance anywhere in the world at the moment, Cyprus is its best shot. Wish I could be on the ground when this hopefully starts gathering steam. Would be glad also if you give a word on the announcement supposed to be given on Friday, that changed to Saturday while we are currently on Sunday.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg3863522#msg3863522Except from the "new" obvious information that the bitcoins are gone, no new information. I tought there were going to be information regarding what happened, what is being done, and the most important, numbers. There will also be the distribution of the Bitcoins that are available to people by this coming Friday. |
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The bitcoins are simply not there anymore, we are continuing to work through the implementation of a number of solutions to correct the issue.
Where have they gone ? Can you answere this question or will you ignore it? I cannot answer it at this exact moment in time. But that will change. |
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Jon (Ukyo) is now here with me in Cyprus to ensure this problem is resolved for everyone involved.
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If you promise to support my family, following me making that information public at this very moment in time.
You will have to excuse the fact that I value my freedom.
I'm not tring to be hostile here, but this reads to me as... "Uyko had fled the country" & "I may be an accomplice to a crime" This whole thing is really starting to give me the shits. It's like everyone out there is attempting to take away all the Bitcoin I was going to use for IVF. *sighs* If I go through everything you have ever written I could make all kinds of assumptions when taking selected words. You should be a journalist. If people don't want me to help towards getting their coins back just say, lawyer up, go for it yourselves (Good luck) and I will reduce my targets by their amounts and continue towards getting everyone that is happy it their coins back. In fact it will make my life much easier. |
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So do you believe that we get our coins back this year ?
The process of receiving them will start this week. Does this include the coins from ukyo.loan too? Or just the coins stuck on bitfunder and weexchange? I'm owed nearly 250 btc from ukyo.loan. I think I might actually be ukyo's largest creditor. I am helping him solve that issue too |
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So do you believe that we get our coins back this year ?
The process of receiving them will start this week. |
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If they are stolen take the legal route to recovery. Obviously i'm not going to "take the legal route to recovery" for my stolen $50 you smug little prick. Doesn't negate the fact that they are/were stolen. At least my measly $50 can serve as a nice reference point to show when/where/how much when you start moving funds around. Which will probably be more information than you have ever actually provided. Smug little prick, nice.... Let me know where to find you so I can get your apology very shortly. I'm slowly loosing my taste for bitcoin as it seems no matter what: human greed always fucks money up. With all the shit that has been going on with people losing their hard earned money to an unscrupulous few willing to scheme ways to take it, we should just rename the whole failing monetary experiment: BITCON.
Bitcoin is working fine. The main problem is that so many people believe(d) that because something is related to bitcoin, that no laws apply and you can just freely break security regulations all over the world, along with violating money transmitter licence requirements and AML regulations. The "its not illegal because... bitcoin" argument. If you fell for that, and sent your coins to an illegal exchange believing that is a safe thing to do, its not bitcoin's fault. Not a single satoshi in my wallet has been lost due to scams. Yeah for you, and a small number of tech heads who get how to secure their coins, it's all good. But all I hear now from regular people when I mention bitcoin is; "what about this inputs.io" or the multiple other break-ins/scams that have taken place and will continue? Bitcoin may not be broken per se... What is broken is human integrity. And if this tiny community can't prove to the rest of the world what a great thing bitcoin can potentially be without robbing each other blind at evey opportunity, then what's the point? This is one of the reasons I have taken steps to make sure people get their coins back. I have to deal with the local media and the same questions are asked, when I can turn back to them and say WeExchange had issues and it was resolved. That will be a win for Bitcoin itself. Danny,
It's been a couple of weeks that bitfunder has been receiving dividends on asicminer and not paying into members accounts. How come? What was done before was done, but this practice of taking dividends intended for shareholders smacks of direct theft. Can you clear this up or is this also something you will be staying silent on?
Second, please don't raise expectations by promising announcements and then issuing empty ones like that you are not allowed to tell us anything.
Your reputation is on the line here and so far you have been an apologist for Ukyo without producing results.
Deliver something and your reputation will be restored - for now, you're the guy who stepped in to say to give Ukyo time and that you were working on a solution and announcement back on November 27th, which so far has only bought Ukyo time to leave the country.
It all looks bad so far.
TAT has already mentioned the ASIC Miner dividends. If the world away from the keyboard acted and made decisions as fast as the Bitcoin network, this would already have been solved, with everyone happy that they have their coins back. To expect these entities to run at the same speed would be beyond crazy. |
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Neo & Bee have no liability, this is me as an individual helping you out to ensure you get your BTC back, can I expect a thank you card when its completed or continued demands from you?
If you return my $50 then I will send you a thankyou e-card. What should I send you if, instead, you are involved in distributing this stolen $50 to other people? I would not consider insisting in the distribution of stolen funds to be a "no liability" situation, and at this point these funds ( https://blockchain.info/address/1362Fgp2MKTnqBXq5hK8kss2ch3Jb41qb4) are considered stolen. If they are stolen take the legal route to recovery. |
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Two days ago I sent payment for order on lmb-holdings and today status is still locked-and-waiting. Are orders processed by hand, or is there any problem?
Give me 2 minutes and I will go and give the devs a nudge to authorize it. |
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