Just wondering, since the devs and investors aren't allowed to touch their IPO's for 6 months, why wasn't this enforced at the protocol levelfrom the beginning? Like for example, set a nlocktimeout for 6 months so it isn't spendable until the specified time has elapsed.
Because they planned this all along. we should make you lead dev or project manager, you seem to know what your doing you remind me of those twats who go to football games and yell instructions from way up in the stands like the coach. now the spotlight is on you friend, whats your move? Apologize to those you have scammed. Donate all proceeds from the scam to charity. you didn't get the job, we require minimum double digit IQ's |
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Just wondering, since the devs and investors aren't allowed to touch their IPO's for 6 months, why wasn't this enforced at the protocol levelfrom the beginning? Like for example, set a nlocktimeout for 6 months so it isn't spendable until the specified time has elapsed.
Because they planned this all along. we should make you lead dev or project manager, you seem to know what your doing you remind me of those twats who go to football games and yell instructions from way up in the stands like the coach. now the spotlight is on you friend, whats your move? |
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what am i lying about here? Please explain, there are no facts here, lol, you are just repeating yourself non stop and ignoring every time ive answered you. your a very bad troll ;/ no more food for you  You know Sev, i've defended the coin and thought you were a pretty ok guy. But the issue here is that you are playing semantics about selling your coins. The OP clearly states DEVs will not sell coins. You were clearly representing yourself as a dev of this coin, to "us" you were the official spokesperson, now whether you are going to claim you "technically" weren't a dev or something and that "no one" told you not to sell, come on, don't play games. Your defense on selling is very, very shaky here. oh man, dude again, for the last time, no one said anything to me about dont hold dont sell dont touch etc on the coins, and to pandawest, and to mxtm, and to all the other coins that aren't jacob or artis or molly. we were told, by them, personally, they will be holding their coins up till august. No one asked anything of me, or anyone else apart from those names mentioned above to hold the coins for whatever reason. This is just so backwrads, dont you think i would hold out for some 'amazing 500 satoshi price'.. you think the devs have 100's of btc? the only person with 100's of btc is wolong. Detracting from the fact that actually this is all just complete missdirection on wolongs part because hes not a member of the team that has contributed in any fucking way to the project other than taking 250btc from ipo and 2billion panda coins. And people are pissed at me for receiving 20m from the dev team, selling 5 millions? Dude, wolong didnt even know my wallet address until today, thats how irrelevant all of this is. Why did this whole thing start? This is why, uncut version of entire issue with wolong and his lack of taking any ownership over the project other than to collect his cheque. We are/were in this for the long-haul, at least me personally, given that i have been 100% dedicated to being a community facing guy and put my reputation and name on the line to ensure that we can deliver a solid crypto to the community. Wolong is the one who fucked up here and then frames it as 'part of my plans to shake weak hands'.. seriously, how can you not BLATANTLY see that. have a read through this - what does it look like to you - http://pastebin.com/MhhUkEHCits us being pissed at having no answers from the supposed 'face of the coin' , complete avoidance of any answering the questions and passing the buck by blaming pandawest for being pissed at wolong and then suddenly all his actions today started because of that, and now they started apparently because of me... which is it? Does it look like we are trying to do anything other than get answers so that we can work on the coin and progress what we are doing and strive to push things forward or does it look like we are masterminding a plan to exit with millions of $'s (2.5million (c) Wolong) and fuck everyone over? I mean, cmon, read the thing and then reply to me. |
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[14:07] <@[-wolong-]> the msg on pandacoin top thread was clear
[14:07] <@[-wolong-]> devs holds for 6 months
[14:07] <@[-wolong-]> i was the only stupid guy
[14:07] <@[-wolong-]> who hold 1.5billion
[14:07] <@[-wolong-]> while the rest of you sold off
Straight from the horses mouth. The devs are fucken scammers and ought to go to jail for this.
True Fucking Story. And everyone is blaming Wolong ....Pathetic... So let get this straight, Toby, he's the one with all the money, he's the market maker and he's the one writing the book on how to do all this yet his own devs are dumping while he's holding and he has no idea? Bhahahaaaaaa. So then, you're saying Wolong is Worong and very very incompetent? I think he'd rather be called a scammer. lol. Get ur facts str8 m8 b4 u h8 on the gr8. So far everything wolong has said has been true. While everything sevoque and warlock(jacobUX) have said has turned out to be lies. Check the block chain explorer. Two of the devs confirmed to dump coins early and break pledge. The rest of the devs kept their wallet ID private so we don't know what they did, we have to take wolong's word for it that they dumped all their coins. Wolong was the only one who made his wallet ID public from the start. Wolong was in this coin longterm (500+ satoshi) but the greedy devs tried fucking him over so he fucked them back harder. lol , u keep glossing over the fact i had no pledge, not me, and jacob hasnt sold a cent. so whats ur next FUD agenda? Proper loser bro :/ Respond to this broham. You defend your position with lies and we keep bringing up facts to destroy you, yet you keep on lying. what am i lying about here? Please explain, there are no facts here, lol, you are just repeating yourself non stop and ignoring every time ive answered you. your a very bad troll ;/ no more food for you |
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[14:07] <@[-wolong-]> the msg on pandacoin top thread was clear
[14:07] <@[-wolong-]> devs holds for 6 months
[14:07] <@[-wolong-]> i was the only stupid guy
[14:07] <@[-wolong-]> who hold 1.5billion
[14:07] <@[-wolong-]> while the rest of you sold off
Straight from the horses mouth. The devs are fucken scammers and ought to go to jail for this.
True Fucking Story. And everyone is blaming Wolong ....Pathetic... So let get this straight, Toby, he's the one with all the money, he's the market maker and he's the one writing the book on how to do all this yet his own devs are dumping while he's holding and he has no idea? Bhahahaaaaaa. So then, you're saying Wolong is Worong and very very incompetent? I think he'd rather be called a scammer. lol. Get ur facts str8 m8 b4 u h8 on the gr8. So far everything wolong has said has been true. While everything sevoque and warlock(jacobUX) have said has turned out to be lies. Check the block chain explorer. Two of the devs confirmed to dump coins early and break pledge. The rest of the devs kept their wallet ID private so we don't know what they did, we have to take wolong's word for it that they dumped all their coins. Wolong was the only one who made his wallet ID public from the start. Wolong was in this coin longterm (500+ satoshi) but the greedy devs tried fucking him over so he fucked them back harder. lol , u keep glossing over the fact i had no pledge, not me, and jacob hasnt sold a cent. so whats ur next FUD agenda? Proper loser bro :/ |
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I trusted Sevoque but it would appear he is just as bad as Wolong here - he dumped his stash beforehand and then acts like there was nothing wrong with that. You sir are an Insider Trader - you knew of communication troubles with Wolong, you had access to private chats and information that would adversely affect the price of the coin should that information get out - and yet you did nothing but prepare to dump and ultimately dump. When I asked you to at least try and keep the coin alive for those 'good people' that are still holding you said that you were not going to - as a dev how could you in good conscience not even try to salvage your coin to give those left holding the bag a fighting chance? The explanation was there all along - because you had already dumped your stash and no longer had a financial interest in keeping the coin afloat.
Shame on you for your part in this whole, miserable affair. Your reputation is and deserves to be in tatters.
i have access to the dev chan, which WOLONG hasnt been in for the last two days and this has been the catalyst that caused all of this. So explain to me what insider trading is going on? where did u get this info i dumped all my stash? I've never said that, not once. You needed to disclose immediately that there were communication problems between the dev team and Wolong. These things affect the price of the coin. By not doing so you become an information insider and by acting on this knowledge you became an insider trader. Few pages ago you said there was no agreement that you wouldn't dump your coins - contrary to the claim at the start that the devs would hold their coins until august. The wallet shows otherwise. look bro, u cant jump in to a thread 200 pages in and expect to understand all the information. I have reiterated time and time again that it was WOLONG.. MOLLY.. JACOB AND ARTIS who had the obligation to post their wallets.. the remaining 4 of 5 guys on the team, myself included, were never once asked, in any way, to make our wallets public, not to trade coins. Feel free to ask anyone on the team to verify. Second, wolong was online, but he wasnt anywhere to be seen project wise, and this is what put the wheels in motion for us to have a word with him as it prevented us from doing the things we needed to as ive stated 10 times. You think in some way that the devs dumped their wallets (the ones who were asked to hold) no, they have all still got them intact. So why dont you go to IRC and ask them instead of accusing me of ridiculous stuff.
If wolong was unavailable, why do i want to panic the market if he is just awol for whatever reason without establishing if its just something that can be dealt with ? The second we found out that infact it was something to worr y over, i pasted the log. u can keep flying off the handle at me i dont really care, ive done nothign here other than try to make the community aware of whats going on at the relevant times (when the messages were published here). So, if you think in some way that this whole thing has been 'engineered' to 'shake weak hands' then your a total nutbar. If wolong has gone out his way to be uncontactable, unreachable, and disprespectful to not only this community, but others including vert, doge and whatever else, to try and bring prices down for whatever reason, hes clearly a nasty piece of work. Where is the proof of this? Every dev who has posted their wallet has a massive dump in their transaction history roughly 2-3 days ago. http://192.159.66.51/address/PfXU5PNhtchAce16dbsyXxxQ2ciWG3hnLcThis wallet is sevoque check his history. here you go. also, please jump on irc and talk to jocob and ask him for his wallet. im pretty sure he psoted it and he has 191m inside. regards |
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I trusted Sevoque but it would appear he is just as bad as Wolong here - he dumped his stash beforehand and then acts like there was nothing wrong with that. You sir are an Insider Trader - you knew of communication troubles with Wolong, you had access to private chats and information that would adversely affect the price of the coin should that information get out - and yet you did nothing but prepare to dump and ultimately dump. When I asked you to at least try and keep the coin alive for those 'good people' that are still holding you said that you were not going to - as a dev how could you in good conscience not even try to salvage your coin to give those left holding the bag a fighting chance? The explanation was there all along - because you had already dumped your stash and no longer had a financial interest in keeping the coin afloat.
Shame on you for your part in this whole, miserable affair. Your reputation is and deserves to be in tatters.
i have access to the dev chan, which WOLONG hasnt been in for the last two days and this has been the catalyst that caused all of this. So explain to me what insider trading is going on? where did u get this info i dumped all my stash? I've never said that, not once. You needed to disclose immediately that there were communication problems between the dev team and Wolong. These things affect the price of the coin. By not doing so you become an information insider and by acting on this knowledge you became an insider trader. Few pages ago you said there was no agreement that you wouldn't dump your coins - contrary to the claim at the start that the devs would hold their coins until august. The wallet shows otherwise. look bro, u cant jump in to a thread 200 pages in and expect to understand all the information. I have reiterated time and time again that it was WOLONG.. MOLLY.. JACOB AND ARTIS who had the obligation to post their wallets.. the remaining 4 of 5 guys on the team, myself included, were never once asked, in any way, to make our wallets public, not to trade coins. Feel free to ask anyone on the team to verify. Second, wolong was online, but he wasnt anywhere to be seen project wise, and this is what put the wheels in motion for us to have a word with him as it prevented us from doing the things we needed to as ive stated 10 times. You think in some way that the devs dumped their wallets (the ones who were asked to hold) no, they have all still got them intact. So why dont you go to IRC and ask them instead of accusing me of ridiculous stuff. If wolong was unavailable, why do i want to panic the market if he is just awol for whatever reason without establishing if its just something that can be dealt with ? The second we found out that infact it was something to worr y over, i pasted the log. u can keep flying off the handle at me i dont really care, ive done nothign here other than try to make the community aware of whats going on at the relevant times (when the messages were published here). So, if you think in some way that this whole thing has been 'engineered' to 'shake weak hands' then your a total nutbar. If wolong has gone out his way to be uncontactable, unreachable, and disprespectful to not only this community, but others including vert, doge and whatever else, to try and bring prices down for whatever reason, hes clearly a nasty piece of work. |
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I trusted Sevoque but it would appear he is just as bad as Wolong here - he dumped his stash beforehand and then acts like there was nothing wrong with that. You sir are an Insider Trader - you knew of communication troubles with Wolong, you had access to private chats and information that would adversely affect the price of the coin should that information get out - and yet you did nothing but prepare to dump and ultimately dump. When I asked you to at least try and keep the coin alive for those 'good people' that are still holding you said that you were not going to - as a dev how could you in good conscience not even try to salvage your coin to give those left holding the bag a fighting chance? The explanation was there all along - because you had already dumped your stash and no longer had a financial interest in keeping the coin afloat.
Shame on you for your part in this whole, miserable affair. Your reputation is and deserves to be in tatters.
i have access to the dev chan, which WOLONG hasnt been in for the last two days and this has been the catalyst that caused all of this. So explain to me what insider trading is going on? where did u get this info i dumped all my stash? I've never said that, not once. |
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so obvious that the devs fucked over wolong and the rest of the community.
i'm no fan of wolong neither. it makes no sense. why the fuck would he sell off now? its clear that wasn't his intention. he was 'forced' to because the other investors were selling off their shit.
Exactly. All the devs who have posted their wallets show they dumped all their coins a couple of days ago. all the devs? U mean me, who was not required to hold any coins? lol Let me ask you something... are you still in. Are you still supporting the coin? Are all the devs in? Wolong is Solong? If so and you "can" and are "willing" to hold your coin up to high standards then I won't jump ship. I won't even troll ya but I want to hear it from you and the dev team. You have to build community trust. I don't care if you sold since you weren't promised to hold but... I expect it from who ever was. You guys have a great coin... don't let it die. we are working on a way of potentially salvaging the coin and ensuring that wolong is kept out. I cant say much more right now, but thats whats been doing discussed. |
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so obvious that the devs fucked over wolong and the rest of the community.
i'm no fan of wolong neither. it makes no sense. why the fuck would he sell off now? its clear that wasn't his intention. he was 'forced' to because the other investors were selling off their shit.
Exactly. All the devs who have posted their wallets show they dumped all their coins a couple of days ago. all the devs? U mean me, who was not required to hold any coins? lol |
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Nice good job on making some money sev yeah, i dont understand what the issue is? I was never asked to hold my wallet wtf? The fact is...just a few hours ago you straight out lied and said you didn't sell until today in order to shift blame from yourself. This link is sufficient evidence that you planned to dump all along and never intended this coin to be the next "dogecoin" And lastly, to all of you who are saying we have dumped our wallets.. you have ZERO idea what you are talking about. only today have i put my coins in to cryptorush to exit as a result of the way wolong was behaving..here is the post where you said that. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=460037.msg5263638#msg5263638+1 uh so i moved some millions to cryptorush, again, i am not under any obligation with the amount i received to hold for several months time and ultimately if i choose to sell an amount of coins, that is entirely my prerogative to do so. What am i shifting blame away from? I dont understand, i am not part of wolongs circlejerk and dont take 'instructions' from him in regard to what i can or cant do with my funds. Those are his excuses that he is giving as a result of passing the back for his lack of transparency. geez dude ;/ No you are no longer part of his circlejerk. Wolong made sure of that because you guys are not to be trusted. Wolong was completely transparent this time and he was planning on pumping this coin to 500+ satoshi. The devs were shady as fuck and sold early when they claimed the premine was for "promotional purposes." lol mate, you talk the biggest load of shit ever, i just told you to take a look at those wallets above and you haven't even bothered you jsut disregard it. Molly doesnt even know his own wallet address and myself and the other team members are at fault? haha, you must be kidding. We were never in his circle jerk, ive exchanged less than 10 words with the guy prior to those pastebins, you think i would pay the guy money to join his fan club? I joined the project because of jacob. read a coffee table book you antisemetic twat  Wolong posted his wallet from day one. He hid nothing. The rest of the devs? I don't think so. They only posted them now and it shows they dumped the premine early and didn't use it for what they planned. youve got it very backwards. wolong is the one holding the coins for what was planned for development. not us. I was given 20m, so was pandawest, i don't know what mxtm, evoked, etc got for their efforts and its something you can ask them directly. Wolong is the one who prevented us from doing our jobs, witholding important inforamtion, funds and not allowing us to progress in the way that we wanted to in order to start building the community further, especially through giveaways. This is the guy who comes to IRC and sticks 10k on dice in front of everyone.. bitt of a pisstaker dont you think? Or are you so invested in his scheme that you cant face up to reality? and no, wolong idd not post his wallet from day 1, it took ages to get him to post his wallet here, you can see how far through the thread it was from launch.. you are just really going out your way to shit stir, and you fail, and no doubt you have lost money as a result of wolong -> who BY THE WAY started selling and moving coins around before anyone. Why dont you ask him for mollys wallet and the 50btc that he invested? |
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Nice good job on making some money sev yeah, i dont understand what the issue is? I was never asked to hold my wallet wtf? The fact is...just a few hours ago you straight out lied and said you didn't sell until today in order to shift blame from yourself. This link is sufficient evidence that you planned to dump all along and never intended this coin to be the next "dogecoin" And lastly, to all of you who are saying we have dumped our wallets.. you have ZERO idea what you are talking about. only today have i put my coins in to cryptorush to exit as a result of the way wolong was behaving..here is the post where you said that. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=460037.msg5263638#msg5263638+1 uh so i moved some millions to cryptorush, again, i am not under any obligation with the amount i received to hold for several months time and ultimately if i choose to sell an amount of coins, that is entirely my prerogative to do so. What am i shifting blame away from? I dont understand, i am not part of wolongs circlejerk and dont take 'instructions' from him in regard to what i can or cant do with my funds. Those are his excuses that he is giving as a result of passing the back for his lack of transparency. geez dude ;/ No you are no longer part of his circlejerk. Wolong made sure of that because you guys are not to be trusted. Wolong was completely transparent this time and he was planning on pumping this coin to 500+ satoshi. The devs were shady as fuck and sold early when they claimed the premine was for "promotional purposes." lol mate, you talk the biggest load of shit ever, i just told you to take a look at those wallets above and you haven't even bothered you jsut disregard it. Molly doesnt even know his own wallet address and myself and the other team members are at fault? haha, you must be kidding. We were never in his circle jerk, ive exchanged less than 10 words with the guy prior to those pastebins, you think i would pay the guy money to join his fan club? I joined the project because of jacob. read a coffee table book you antisemetic twat |
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Nice good job on making some money sev yeah, i dont understand what the issue is? I was never asked to hold my wallet wtf? Lets see > premine > pump n dump > wolong was telling the truth about the devs Hope all you bagholders learned your lesson. ive come to the obvious conclusion that you must have paid him some stupid amount to join his fan club. you saw jacobs wallet, ask for mollies wallet and ask for artis's wallet address, all of their funds are UNTOUCHED. myself, mxtm, evoked and pandawest were not told anything in relation to holding our funds, only the guys mentioned above. But what does it matter now?> We have outcast wolong from the project, hes done. also, its Shabbat* you retard |
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Nice good job on making some money sev yeah, i dont understand what the issue is? I was never asked to hold my wallet wtf? The fact is...just a few hours ago you straight out lied and said you didn't sell until today in order to shift blame from yourself. This link is sufficient evidence that you planned to dump all along and never intended this coin to be the next "dogecoin" And lastly, to all of you who are saying we have dumped our wallets.. you have ZERO idea what you are talking about. only today have i put my coins in to cryptorush to exit as a result of the way wolong was behaving..here is the post where you said that. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=460037.msg5263638#msg5263638+1 uh so i moved some millions to cryptorush, again, i am not under any obligation with the amount i received to hold for several months time and ultimately if i choose to sell an amount of coins, that is entirely my prerogative to do so. What am i shifting blame away from? I dont understand, i am not part of wolongs circlejerk and dont take 'instructions' from him in regard to what i can or cant do with my funds. Those are his excuses that he is giving as a result of passing the back for his lack of transparency. geez dude ;/ |
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Nice good job on making some money sev yeah, i dont understand what the issue is? I was never asked to hold my wallet wtf? You were supposed to hold for 6 months like every other developer involved as far as I understand it. Yes, sevoque said; "dev hold their panda until august" no i said wolong, molly and jacob. |
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Nice good job on making some money sev yeah, i dont understand what the issue is? I was never asked to hold my wallet wtf? You were supposed to hold for 6 months like every other developer involved as far as I understand it. no, i wasnt. |
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Nice good job on making some money sev yeah, i dont understand what the issue is? I was never asked to hold my wallet wtf? |
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i dumped 10 mil earlier at around 30 satoshi and currently have 10mil sat on my cryptorush my wallet right now has 20k~ in it you do realise, what your showing me is the wallet of the guy who dumped 700million before anyone else had sold anything.. i dont understand what ur tyring to prove to me here. SEVOQUE do you think anyone going to believe one of yours words? SEVOQUE SCAMMER can you show us? <- cryptorush wallet http://ctrlv.in/297461right now im not concerned. you guys are literally just here to cause shit, you know the situation with the coin, troll elsewhere. Like ive said, jacob and I are working on getting wolong as far away from this coin as possible in the interest of trying to salvage something Post the wallets of all the dev team scammer. To be fair to sevoque, at this point there's really nothing the devs can do to appease anyone even if they are legit. If he posts the wallets of the rest of the devs, people will just start saying they probably have other wallets they dumped on a laptop, or second HDD, or another account on the exchange. Part of the anonymous nature that makes cryptos so great is also the double edged sword that it's impossible to ever prove how many you own. People can make their own opinions of what happened, i cant keep trying to justify our position and what you wrote above is absolutely correct. Ive been doing that from the second I opened this post. I stupidly fought wolongs corner and it has led to the coin taking a massive hit due to his actions. Nothing more to say |
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i dumped 10 mil earlier at around 30 satoshi and currently have 10mil sat on my cryptorush my wallet right now has 20k~ in it you do realise, what your showing me is the wallet of the guy who dumped 700million before anyone else had sold anything.. i dont understand what ur tyring to prove to me here. SEVOQUE do you think anyone going to believe one of yours words? SEVOQUE SCAMMER can you show us? <- cryptorush wallet http://ctrlv.in/297461right now im not concerned. you guys are literally just here to cause shit, you know the situation with the coin, troll elsewhere. Like ive said, jacob and I are working on getting wolong as far away from this coin as possible in the interest of trying to salvage something |
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i dumped 10 mil earlier at around 30 satoshi and currently have 10mil sat on my cryptorush my wallet right now has 20k~ in it you do realise, what your showing me is the wallet of the guy who dumped 700million before anyone else had sold anything.. i dont understand what ur tyring to prove to me here. |
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