Well.  I'm certainly feeling happy that I got back in@0.0030000 just half an hour ago.   Looks like the pump is back on,to say the least.  Virtually all buy orders.

Same boat as you.  Got out today@.005, but may jump back in if it free falls some more.  Market is extremely volatile right now.

I remember when I was saying the same thing about Maza.

lol fair enough

But the question again is...how is it worth it for the citizens to jump through that many hurdles JUST to convert it to cash to buy any of those things.    If none of you knew about bitcoins or digital currencies and were suddenly handed a digital pass to claim $10 worth of goods...would you still claim it if it required a few hours of research/registration/transfers/and more registration just to get it?  

IMO, that was the total draw of AUR, when it was at its peak it made logical sense for even a country of that size. The incentive through large capital gains was still there.

I believe it's a lot more in the favor of Maza than it is with Spain even after the drop off, and it's not even close.


As the poster above stated...even in an ideal situation, most likely each citizen will only receive 1 to 2 coins each.  Now exactly what incentive would there be to the average citizen in spain to claim one or two digital coins which are currently valuated at 3 dollars each...then having to jump through the hurdles of registering on a trade site, transferring, and figuring out how to cash out btc?


The intent of Maza is to eventually displace the dollar due to the sovereign structure of their people and close knit community.  Now what's the goal with SPA?


Never knew Spain was the shithole of Europe either.  Or perhaps that's what you believe?  Either way, glad you found humor in it.

Nope.  Apples to oranges.

You're also taking into consideration the amount of total coins minted, where SPA is extremely limited supply vs. maza taking into consideration total cap.There are also a LOT less tribal inhabitants than there are inhabitants of spain.  Additionally, the people of these tribes are a LOT more hard pressed for any kind of money or financial assistance than inhabitants of spain.  You're comparing basically a 3rd world economy vs. a thriving portion of europe.

Additionally...unless my math is incorrect, then the DEVS better hope this stuff is shilled to the moon.  Because ~3 coins per each inhabitant in Spain, even if they were worth $10 each.  That's about $30 per person.  And the amount of work required to learn how to use cryptos for the average person, acquire them, and try to re-sell them...most will avoid it altogether for such a meager amount of money vs. time and trouble required.

Made my quick money on this coin and don't regret it a bit.  Good luck to all those 'holding' any longer thinking this is headed towards former AUR levels.

Hell. Look at AUR now...basically dropped 90 percent of it's value from it's peak, with no signs of stopping from free fall mode.

Unfortunately, SPA doesn't have it as easy as AUR did during it's rise because AUR was the first of its kind. Now many investors will be twice as shy to put money into basically the same scheme seeing the former results.  I doubt this coin will ever see more than $5 each.  I'm thinking it'll settle into the $1.50 range or so.  I could be wrong, but when both of these 'national' coins are right above each other on coinmarketcap, it's tough for investors to shake that constant reminder of 'huge market bubble.'

Best way to play the market is to exploit it, indeed.  Nothing wrong with quick flips to invest more in coins you believe in.  Hell, I even bought some LTC with my profits.   Can't complain whatsoever.

Ever heard of the saying 'sometimes you have to join them to beat them?'

Yep.  Invested a bit of my sold off shares of maza into SPA, quadrupled my investment.  And now I have 4x more to buy in maza at a pricepoint that is less than 1/4 of what I initially bought in for before the 1000% rise.

Some of these shitcoins may be exactly what their name implies, but I'll be damned if they can't have their perks.

Post screenshots of your transactions to prove your story.  Else your blatantly insane posts/threats will be deleted.  This is getting a bit ridiculous, now.  I'll give you until tomorrow.

Oh, my apologies, thought you were referring to maza


Here's my quantifier on the 'sovereign currency' statement:

- Is it a currency?   Check.
-Are the native american reservations classified as a sovereign entity?  Check.

Thus, it's a sovereign currency.  Now...obviously the level of adoption is still not anywhere to where it needs to be.  But this coin was created and intended for this sole purpose, so I can confidently say it's a sovereign currency.  Nobody expected all the tribal members to be using it out the gate.  It's a work in progress, and will most likely take years to fully implement, if the right circumstances arise.  

I'm going to make a wild correlation here: but only because these are two currencies that have a lot of skepticism and speculation and have fought uphill battles.  

But if you look at bitcoin and it's history, it has been battered and bruised for YEARS before it finally gained true adoption and exploded out of the 50 dollar range into the 600's and beyond.   The explosion literally happened overnight.

If you believe in the cause, you're going to have to stick through some tough times ahead.  Bitcoin bounced around from the 1 to 5 dollar range for what seemed like forever.  Vaulted to 150-200, then crashed down immediately and people jumped ship because they didn't want to lose their ass.

All I'm saying is...if you truly believe in the cause, then there is no reason why you should be wavering right now solely due to the price.  You're looking at the ultimate destination.


Easier said than done.  But this is the reason why there aren't many who invested in bitcoin that became millionares.  Sure, you hear of the occasional success story, but the violent market price swings, massive dumps, and sideways movement for what seemed like forever...made it so there were very few people that actually held their bitcoin bags out of choice all the way thruogh it's epic rise.  Most got in during the rise, but certainly not at the bottom.



With that said, good luck to all in any of their investments.  I'm not 100 percent into maza and have my portfolio spread over about 10 coins.  I think it's always good to diversify in any aspect of life.  But I certainly can't blame anyone who's fully committed all their btc's to this venture.  It's got a lot more 'footwork' done than 98 percent of the shitcoins out there.

At the very, very least...it's a novel idea with great intended social implications.

Again, baseless assertions to fit your own agenda.  Patting yourself in the back because people that lost their money?

lol.

Yeah...you seem like a genuinely good guy that'd be a treat to hang around.  Again, your saying it's a scam holds about as much weight as those stating it's a legitimately good cause.  But unfortunately, the burden of proof doesn't sway in your favor.  There's a big difference between a coin that hasn't yet 'fulfilled it's intended goal' vs. a coin that's a flat out scam.  I don't think you know the difference between the two, or at least it doesn't appear you do.

lol, I'm pretty sure you're just trolling.  But if not, then you need to re-examine your spending habits.  Never, ever invest more than you're willing to lose.  Don't care if its cryptos, collector cars, silver, gold, or fancy paintings.  

Yes, because those untouched premine shares REALLY lined their pockets with super duper munneez, right?

Spend your btc's elsewhere, nobody's waiting on you nor cares about your money here.

Have zero idea of what you're trying to allude to with the bolded text.   Pretty sure I stated them with the current situations in mind, as they were several days apart.  Am I missing something?


By the way...selling off shares to buy them back at a lower price range (aka day trading) does not equate to completely giving up faith in a project.  It's called leveraging the market.  I'm still here posting.  Could I lose my ass on this when all is said and done? Sure.

But the same could be said about any alt including bitcoin.  Any of them could end up being worthless months, if not years from now.  It's called speculation and investment for a reason.  

Herp.  We've known where you've stood on this coin for well over a week now.  No need to reiterate it.  Also, you can spam your other alt coin endorsements elsewhere.  This is about maza, not about your personal investment portfolio.




Well, I guess if there's any silver lining in this situation, is that this coin has to eventually bottom out 'somewhere.'  Problem is...it's been on a continual, steady, gradual decline day after day.  But it will eventually get to a price point where it will undoubtedly be a dining feast for pumping groups.  Unfortunately, nobody can predict when that will happen.

I've sold off about half my shares and have about 70k left after having sold and rebought at a lower price.  Not too bad, considering I started out with 88k coins before it took off to the moon.

If it becomes absolutely worthless (which I doubt), then so be it.  But if it goes back to even 5k, then I will count my blessings.

That would be amazing.

Agreed 100%. The coin needs to have better market pricing/stability for mass adoption.