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481  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: June 23, 2022, 10:32:13 AM
ci si fanno tante seghe mentali Smiley con la finanza creativa
mi viene da ridere

scusate, ma guardo al mondo finanziario, come il nonno che guarda i nipotini che fanno "giochi da grandi" ma in fondo quello che fanno e' pura illusione
non sto a spiegre i motivi per cui asserisco questo, gia fatto tante volte.. sono stanco anche a ripetere

scrivo solo per dire: lago di livigno asciutto (cercate le foto su googol)

Appena visto, oh madonna è una follia praticamente  Shocked. C'è anche da dire però che dicono si sia svuotato per alimentare una centrale idroelettrica in svizzera, mah. Io dico che c'entrano anche gli effetti del gran caldo che

attualmente c'è, oramai si sta desertificando tutto, è insostenibile andare avanti così con queste temperature spaventosamente alte. (In realtà quello che fa più impressione è il po asciutto)
482  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 22, 2022, 06:03:04 PM
I read a news about milan condition now, Milan is currently in serious trouble regarding the transfer of players. Rumors, RedBird will not provide enough money for Milan in the transfer market this summer. Of course this is a blow to Pioli and staff like Maldini. Because, Milan already have a plan to buy some players, but if Milan didn't get funds from RedBird, the plan could change and could not be executed as well.

As I've imagined it, but I don't think that it would be a big issue like you say, Milan anyway has a great team and they can challenge for the first 4th place also the next year, most probably they will not win championship

anymore, but they can fight for the higher rank. RedBird has invested a lot into this team, and is clear that they doesn't want to spend money this year.

483  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Problem, Is it Possible to be a Thing of the Past? on: June 22, 2022, 06:01:13 PM
Personal Input:
Having this kind of tool in every online casino is really helpful but the main challenge is the people involved.  Are they willing to participate in the program?  That is the main issue unless Casino will cooperate and force implement this procedure to their players which is highly unlikely.  Aside from that this is still in the experimental stage so it is too early to say that this kind of tool will solve the gambling problem that had been in the industry since the beginning.  I think it will help but it won't make the gambling problem a thing of the past. So what do you think about this article's claim?

I think that a global self exclusion tool, that was mandatory to be used by fiat and crypto companies would be an absolute miracle. However due to the way the internet is designed, where sites can be hosted in non-cooperative jurisdictions, there simply is not a good enough level of coordination between countries to get it off the ground. We're also talking about huge amounts of money at stake, if someone was to drop that requirement they would be rolling in money. It would take many countries and an unprecedented effort to perform such a thing, which frankly is not going to happen any time soon. Gambling is a powerful force, but honestly people can overcome it but they are often a victim of their circumstances and environment - unless you fix those then it's hard to have the willpower to break free long term.

I don't think that is the best solution to work on auto-excluding platform. The best thing is to work on the player, because it would be necessary only a registration, or the slot machine near your home to fell for another

time in gambling addiction. Hope that gambling industry will improve instrument for this giant problem.
484  Economy / Gambling / Re: I miss the old OnChain gambling on: June 22, 2022, 05:59:25 PM
Onchain gambling is gone, it was one of the first ways to gamble our bitcoins... The casinos used to be totally anonymous, to the point where you don't have to create an account on the casino to place a bet. And that was what I call freedom.

When I join to this crypto world in 2014, there use to be 2 casinos with this feature, their name was Lucky bit and Satoshi Bones. And their games have a unique address where you can send your coins and get back to the bet result to the address where the bet comes from. That was how they didn't ask for an account to place a bet.

Those engines were provably fair, and the max wins were up to 100BTC in lucky bit (in that time BTC was at $500 approx) but still huge.

The new casinos are crazy with their KYC rules and customer support. They hold users' money as if they were the owners of the money, and you can find all the same slots games bringing a lack of original and probably fair games.

Maybe regulation brings us to the current situation, but in the past was funnier, fair, and legit. And that's why I miss the old onchain gambling.

Do you remember those old casinos, and what are your thoughts about the current gaming sites compared with the old ones?

I have a cool memory about DirectBet. It was so beautiful, so easy to play, and they had every type of game. Easy payment (in automatic) and you've only to choice your bet. I used to play to Hi Lo in that site, when they

closed I was so sad. Hope as you said that another platform like that will be opened some day. But I don't think, considering issue about regulation and law.

485  Economy / Gambling / Re: ♥️ ♣️ ♠️ Riobet Crypto Casino ♠️ ♣️ ♥️ on: June 22, 2022, 05:40:40 PM
To much risk for getting a manager for running a campaign and this could be a bad comeback for Riobet team if they hired Royse at the moment and maybe he need to fix first his reputation before engaging on another campaign like this. But since Riobet campaign plan to run for atleast 1 week I think this is fine for their participants since for sure Riobet can cover it up once bad things might happen.

Royse's reputation isn't the best right now so I don't think it's a good idea to associate their brand with him. Maybe Riobet Casino should find a new manager for their future Bitcointalk campaigns.

Although I have nothing against him personally, I would hate to see things repeat as happened with Bitlucy casino. I'm not sure what exactly is going on there, but I don't like the way things were handled and all that secrecy to the very end.


In my country there is a popular sentence which says "Those who works, make mistakes", and this is the case of Royse. I agree with you, but I also agree that he can recover and repair his own reputation, if he demonstrate

with time that he is an honest person (just convince more doubful person). That was a bad accident the one with Bitlucy, it isn't so easy to handle on.

486  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏁🏎️ Sportsbet.io🏁 FORMULA 1 2022 Season🏁🏎️Prediction Pool Discussion Thread on: June 22, 2022, 05:35:47 PM
There was a pure Verstappen dominance in the Canadian GP. The last SC helped Sainz a lot to catch up with Verstappen. Because he got an opportunity to change his tyres and go for the win. He had the fastest lap even at the end of the race but Verstappen still did a wonderful work about keeping his lead till the end. I really wanted to watch a tough rivalry between Verstappen and Sainz there but I didn't get what I wanted.  Cry

I was still happy to see Leclerc reaching the fifth place at the end. I hoped to see him on podium though but it's still a good achievement when we take the fact that he started at the last place into account.

Sainz is not a pilot like Leclerc, everyone has seen it in this race. About Leclerc, hope that we'll recover as soon as possible, it would be exciting to see a challenge between two pilot instead of a single dominus by Verstappen.

There isn't the last year another pilot like Hamilton that can fight him (this is the beauty of F1, to see always fight, it is so bored to see only 1 driver which race without any competitor)
487  Local / Trading, analisi e speculazione / Re: { LIVE TREND } analisi del momento on: June 22, 2022, 05:30:53 PM
Sempre di più in momenti di difficoltà noto nelle varie comunità che c'è chi grida ah ! il mercato è manipolato... !

Ah ! le balene...

La gente si stupisce ?

È talmente chiaro che chi mette € 1000 rischia di trovarsi dalla parte sbagliata...

Come mettersi ad in tavolo di poker con 1000 di chips e lamentarsi che quello di fronte con un miliardo di chips entra in tutti piatti anche non avendo nulla in mano.

In borsa come al poker, nella singola mano, non vince chi ha il punto migliore, vince chi ha più soldi per resistere.

Il mercato non è manipolato, è proprio fatto a posta per depredare, nelle fasi estreme paura/euforia, è sempre difficile cercare di rubare su un vascello di pirati ... perché i pirati di mestiere rubano dalla mattina alla sera e vivono con il pensiero di trovare le occasioni per rubare, con tutti i mezzi possibili.

Non può esistere un mercato etico, o giusto, così come non è automatico e matematicamente sicuro vincere con in poker di assi; con la giusta quantità di denaro, il giusto tempo, la giusta strategia, si può vincere contro in poker anche non avendo un bel nulla.


Naturalmente, le borse funzionano così, generalmente chi ha più soldi è in grado di portarsi a casa il pot. Non stupisce il fatto che in questi 2 anni siamo stati bombardati da pubblicità di trading dove si invitano in cambio

di promesse mirabolanti di diventare miliardari dalla mattina alla sera, persone totalmente sprovvedute ad entrare in queste tipologie di mercato (Crypto e Nasdaq, che sono i due mercati più rischiosi in assoluto per un

novellino). Ma in fondo, da una parte, è anche giusto che chi accecato dall'avidità subisca delle perdite, perché non sa stare al tavolo, e non deve proprio starci.
488  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: June 22, 2022, 05:28:07 PM
Maybe it's the coach, so it's very good that Zidane still hasn't agreed (and hopefully won't agree) to be their coach.
I don't know, for some reason Zidane refused PSG's offer to ask for his hand as a coach. But it would surprise me if Zidane actually turned down the offer. I want him to accept the offer and fight together for the best, but maybe Zidane has other reasons why now he doesn't want to sign a contract.

As for Neymar, PSG are trying to get rid of him - they write that they want to sell him to Juventus and even agree to add some part to Neymar's salary in Juventus  Grin But Neymar does not want to leave PSG, which is a big problem in terms of freeing up the budget for salaries.
In the past few days haven't read any news about it, so maybe it's just a rumor going around. But if Neymar really wants to do it, then Juventus isn't a bad team for his future either.

I think that only a crazy man could accept a contract for PSG. Their team is formed only by stars and it isn't absolutely easy to work with team, compared it seems infernal to work with them and everyone has seen what is

happened also this year. Maybe a name like Gaultier could be good, but Zidane risks to burn his career if he agree to join in PSG.
489  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: June 22, 2022, 05:24:40 PM
Da come la vedo io invece, prima le borse rispecchiavano esattamente l'andamento dell'economia di un paese (questo fino all'inizio della bolla dot com), poi la speculazione è diventata padrona di tutto ed è tutto sballato.

Ci sono titoli tremendamente sottovalutati come altri che invece sono tremendamente gonfiati, e non fa più notizia se un titolo sale o scende del +-10% in una giornata (quando succedeva a bitcoin quest ultimo era il

demonio, ora è tutto lecito, vabbè). Chissà dove andremo a finire, vedo sempre più similitudini tra le borse e il mercato crypto in termini speculativi.

490  Economy / Gambling / Re: This is madness. Something super more than DeepSum on: June 22, 2022, 03:24:38 PM
Just look at this screenshot and you know what I mean.



Statistics is something of really cool because it shows to you that something that is really easy will ruin you in the long term, and something of impossible can become possible in rare case. Simulator act only for maths low

but doesn't predicts also human behavior (you would continue a negative series of 15 bets?), so this stats doesn't work so good, don't think about it and play with your method, this is the best thing for you, and it will be

always.
491  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: June 22, 2022, 03:18:14 PM
I think that Dortmund made a good goalkeeper transfer by signing Gregor Kobel. He is quite young (24) now and his performance last season was not too bad also. He conceded 39 goals in 28 league games. This can be improved more of course but the main reason for the majority of these goals was that Dortmund had big problems on defending. They are trying to solve this problem now with new transfers. Their first signing was Niklas Süle and I expect them to keep continuing.

I also think too. Gregor Kobel has played well the last year, his stats seems really good, and he can only improve his performance in the next years. About the attacker, I see that they has also signed a contract with

Haller from Ajax, and I don't know how to see this, because Eredvisie is absolutely another type of championship in comparison of Bundesliga or other big european championship. I don't think that he wil repeat his

performance also with Ajax, but who I am to say this  Huh
492  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 22, 2022, 03:14:27 PM
It is so funny that wife of Di Maria needs to visit Turin before allow to his husband to accept contract for Juventus, considering that between Turin and Paris there are only 900 km that can be covered easily with a private jet.

Hope that it wouldn't be an excuse to not let join Di Maria to juventus, it would be really ridicolous if it is. (Better stay single as I've always told)  Grin
493  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: June 22, 2022, 03:10:51 PM
So, I actually don't think it is going to be much of a competition between them and Real Madrid. I hope that it will not be as one-sided as it was the last season. That I am not going to be surprised if it is. It doesn't look like Barcelona is going to be able to get Robert Lewandowski.
I agree with you. Only Real Madrid fought for the title last season. Sevilla, Atletico Madrid and Barcelona were far behind than Real Madrid. But next season will not be like that. Barcelona is increasing their strength. Although Barcelona is not financially stable now, they are spending enough money to strengthen the team.

Real Madrid is not only fighting for the title, the luck factor is also on Real Madrid side, because Atletico Madrid and Barcelona played far below the standard (without excluding Sevilla). Other teams are not without fighting for the title, due to their lack of consistency in every game, they are far behind Real Madrid. Barcelona is very active in the transfer market, after receiving an injection of funds from the sale of Licensing and Merchandising shares, they were able to buy several players to strengthen the squad in the new season. In the following season, Real Madrid will face obstacles from Barcelona and Atletico Madrid to win the La Liga title.
I still believe Real Madrid were much better than other La Liga teams in terms of form, consistency and team work last season I don't agree with the saying that they were lucky. Barcelona, Atletico Madrid and Seville tried but they were dropping unnecessary points. In the new season, it's not predictable to determine who will win the league yet because the four major league competitors are actually buying and hunting for more quality players to bring to their various teams

I don't think so, Barcelona can compete against Real Madrid the next year. This year were unlucky for Barcelona because Xavi has taken management too late, let's see how he will work the next year.

In my opinion they can do something of really cool, they will be really improved next year. Real Madrid has other type of issue, and it won't be easy to mantain the 1st place also the next year.
494  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Government Owned Online Casinos What Do You Think Of Its Potential on: June 22, 2022, 02:58:58 PM
Surely it could be a good thing for the government if they launch also his casino online. They could gain a share of online gambling and earn a lot more comparing to today. It is absolutely a great idea. Anyway, they could

also act as other countries like Italy, where bookmaker needs to have an AAMS license in way to operate (online and offline), and for every bet they will pay a tax to government. This is the most succesfull way to work from

the government part  Grin
495  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [FREE RAFFLE] Eclipse33 1st one and special Raffle ! on: June 22, 2022, 02:38:31 PM
Just pay attention to choice your number in accurate way sir, check list before selected your preferite number.

I'll update now list to see where we are at the moment, and once we've reached 100 member I'll announce day and hour of winner of raffle !

EDIT: 75% of numbers has already taken !

Good luck to everyone !
496  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 22, 2022, 02:28:35 PM
In the end it seems finally that Romelu Lukaku wents for another time to Inter. What a great deal for Inter ! Sold him for 112m and loaned from Chelsea only for 8m  Shocked

Hope that we'll see from him the same thing that we've seen 3 years ago when he was a player managed by Antonio Conte, it would be really fun to see it.

497  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] Blackjack.fun Signature Campaign | Up to $130/wk | ~$400k Monthly Contest on: June 22, 2022, 01:21:10 PM
For those who are posting in Gambling discussion please try to skip the Mega Threads what already passed 50-100 even 1000 pages. And also try to give priority on Only Gambling board instead of Gambling Discussion Smiley Smiley Thanks For your nice job btw.

Thanks boss as always, but I would like to add here that not all threads that are 50-100 pages should be considered low quality or mega threads... some threads are much more moderated than others, and are only long because either they are old or they have very active, very useful discussions.

I would like to point out that some new threads are even just spam threads that you can see very low quality posts coming in:
- no constructive comment
- no real knowledge of the gambling/sport being discussed
- recycling old ideas and bringing no new insight

I know we should try and give priority to certain things but I hope also that we are allowed to discuss and contribute to the topics we know best and are an actual part of the communities... otherwise we encourage people to post in casino threads that they aren't even members of.

This is just my thoughts, just to say I most likely won't just post in threads I'm not even playing at, and am even only discussing in threads where actual gamblers and experts discuss. Sometimes I post in new threads and I get useless replies and frankly spam comments, it makes me a bit annoyed Smiley

Great job everyone and to you too sujonali. Keep the name strong!


There are a lot of thread which is used only for Spam purpose and for reach requirement of signature campaign, and this thread are especially in gambling discussion. Check that are some users which says always the

same things. That's why manager is asking to post messages in other threads. Anyway, it is important to diversify and not to be focused only on the mega thread.

498  Economy / Services / Re: [FULL] ChipMixer Signature Campaign | Sr Member+ on: June 21, 2022, 03:17:52 PM
It is unbelievable how far the bitcoin economy has changed since last week.

Hi there Sir,

As I see in your spreadsheet there are some users that are inactive since many weeks (If you want I can PM you nickname of this users).

PS: I've spoken with DarkStar, I'll wait when campaign will be re-opened to submit my candidature.
499  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [FREE RAFFLE] Eclipse33 1st one and special Raffle ! on: June 21, 2022, 02:56:50 PM
First I would thanks to everyone that has partecipated in this event !

Just want to say that I've updated main list with name of everyone added for the number that he/she has chosen. Please, for that who has chosen a number already selected, please choice another number. Thank you !
500  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲 StarBets.io 🎲 || A Crypto-based iGaming Platform 🎲 on: June 20, 2022, 03:53:12 PM
That is absolutely a really great news sir !

Do you have also planned to deposit and withdraw ETH with a low-cost blockchain such as BEP-2? With normal transaction in the ETH chain costs are really high !

Hope that you'll diversify choice of deposit, in way to attract more user to your site !  Wink
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