is this centralized?
No and yes (please dev correct me if I am wrong) the voip services the wallet, and the messanger service are all encrypted and decentralized set up on the node system built into the wallet the viop to landline services are not decentralized( I dont think) because in unless the dev knows how to buypass the systems already in place, I think you need to join a centralized server in order to connect to the system already in place. so its only the landline phone gateway which is encrypted through the nodes, but not decentralized because of the nature of landline calls. it is however decentralized on the wallet end. once again dev please correct me if I am wrong. BC You are correct
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this community is like a cult. Maybe next time I'll leave the vuln open.
ddosing is not a vulnerability, every single server on this earth is can be effected with a ddos attack. after talking to the dev and a coder friend it seems the bug wasnt a bug after all, it was a transparent link allowing others to see the websight address of the vior gateway, in fact the only thing he could have shut down was our ability to pay for our subscription.(It does however show some transparency on the side of our dev). I am sorry I let bassguitarman bate me into his FUD campaign. as for the sourcecode, it seems that the dev has all the licensing required to operate the vior network!!!! all in all bassguitarman did us a favor by showing us that there is no problem. Once again Im sorry to have taken the bait, and hope that people didnt lose to much of thei vior stash in the panic that followed BC Can you provide proof of licensing?
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this community is like a cult. Maybe next time I'll leave the vuln open.
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the only vunerability was that there was a link to the the server address in the log file so that somene could ddos the server. not much of a threat, and a simple fix what an ass. also the server is lisenced..... also any other licensing only required http://www.teluu.com/licensingback to business as usual. and in case the particulars about our arrangement were unclear FUD fear uncertainty doubt you clearly broke the agreement please return my vior to the address i sent it to you from. If you'd like a refund then come to irc again. I didn't break the agreement. At best I broke your interpretation of ambiguous guidelines .
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Viorcoin software like many other VOIP uses Pjsip as the base library which is open and commercial.
The server he posted about was licensed to process wallet address to phone calls. It holds no coins just gateway connectivity
There are no vulnerabilities, all what he posted was the public library.
Now that wasn't the actual vulnerability was it. I'm talking about the code leak, leading to a ddos opportunity, taking down the entire network. I won't reveal more as my bug disclosure does not allow me to Also, did you license the software? http://www.pjsip.org/licensing.htmOnce again, post the code leak. The pub lib are in debug. The server you saw is not the entire network of viorcoin, it only service the wallet address to phone call and it will migrate to OVH that have antiddos protection hardware. Viorcoin software like many other VOIP uses Pjsip as the base library which is open and commercial.
The server he posted about was licensed to process wallet address to phone calls. It holds no coins just gateway connectivity
There are no vulnerabilities, all what he posted was the public library.
Now that wasn't the actual vulnerability was it. I'm talking about the code leak, leading to a ddos opportunity, taking down the entire network. I won't reveal more as my bug disclosure does not allow me to Also, did you license the software? http://www.pjsip.org/licensing.htmOnce again, post the code leak. The pub lib are in debug. The server you saw is not the entire network of viorcoin, it only service the wallet address to phone call and it will migrate to OVH that have antiddos protection hardware. https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/PdJjaL37pjsua_acc.c Adding account: id=sip:VY9Do6GBrKCusLBGgGCb8DZtbCDmxxLx6r@***.***.*** I blurred out the domain so you are protected. The fact that you're switching servers proves that my report was a vuln. What about the liscensisng I am done talking with you since you lack common sense. All what you posted are in the debug of viorcoin wallet. You said i stolen the code, I want to know which code? All these will fall back on your coin and reputation, because your intention was to crash viorcoin price. The code is pjsip: if your software is closed source, you must license it: http://www.pjsip.org/licensing.htmIf you think that what i posted is not a vulnerability, do i have permission to try to attack?
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Viorcoin software like many other VOIP uses Pjsip as the base library which is open and commercial.
The server he posted about was licensed to process wallet address to phone calls. It holds no coins just gateway connectivity
There are no vulnerabilities, all what he posted was the public library.
Now that wasn't the actual vulnerability was it. I'm talking about the code leak, leading to a ddos opportunity, taking down the entire network. I won't reveal more as my bug disclosure does not allow me to Also, did you license the software? http://www.pjsip.org/licensing.htm
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we will see.
anyways the vulnerability is understandable, and easilly fixed. as for the rest about a stolen code I am not a coder , so I have sent the log to viorcoin dev and another coder to discuss it.
I really want to see how this will play out. Apparently dev is fixing it. Can dev confirm that the report was legit?
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Here's a reason: With opal you can transfer and store files at 1/8th the cost of dropbox or mega. More people use storage than Voip. You can crowd fund and donate to crowdfunding platforms with colored coins. Why use vior for calling cards when its more expensive and harder to use than normal voip?
Viorcoin VOIP is not harder to use, did you compared the price? You know all these are already implemented and working not a vaporware like most crypto coins including opal drive etc. With the vior gateway, you can linked your phone number and call any number from the wallet for cheaper rate than skype. A lot of people on the forum can testify to this. The upcoming feature will allow users to lease a phone number from viorcoin, which can be used to recieve calls too. Viorcoin already implemented a functional VOIP network; video, voice, missed calls, history (SMS, local phone number are next on the road map) The rate of viorcoin users are expected to jump up after the release of the mobile wallet with VOIP and POS wallet. First, I highly doubt there will be a mobile wallet when the dev told me he couldn't develop mobile. Next, opal drive's development is open source. Third, bitcoin carpenter reviewed my bug report and verify it's legitimacy, and i also provided proof of stolen code Viorcoin developer already told the community that the mobile app will be developed by someone else. He has fulfilled all his promises and met all the deadlines, if he said it's coming then it's coming. I read the opal drive whitepaper and close it after reading it will use Storj source code. It's same shit, what are the advantages of opaldrive other Storj. No originality and innovation. Has bitcoin carpenter reviewed the bug? 1. Fair enough 2. Opal drive USES storj. It is not storj. 3. Yes
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Here's a reason: With opal you can transfer and store files at 1/8th the cost of dropbox or mega. More people use storage than Voip. You can crowd fund and donate to crowdfunding platforms with colored coins. Why use vior for calling cards when its more expensive and harder to use than normal voip?
Viorcoin VOIP is not harder to use, did you compared the price? You know all these are already implemented and working not a vaporware like most crypto coins including opal drive etc. With the vior gateway, you can linked your phone number and call any number from the wallet for cheaper rate than skype. A lot of people on the forum can testify to this. The upcoming feature will allow users to lease a phone number from viorcoin, which can be used to recieve calls too. Viorcoin already implemented a functional VOIP network; video, voice, missed calls, history (SMS, local phone number are next on the road map) The rate of viorcoin users are expected to jump up after the release of the mobile wallet with VOIP and POS wallet. First, I highly doubt there will be a mobile wallet when the dev told me he couldn't develop mobile. Next, opal drive's development is open source. Third, bitcoin carpenter reviewed my bug report and verify it's legitimacy, and i also provided proof of stolen code
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hey guys.
bassguitarman asked the viorcoin thread to post about any critisisms we may have about your coin...
Ill post one.
I was very interested about the devs tech, and was considerring looking into what was going on in here, but then came the constant blabbering.
after a quick breeze through , I have to say that I like what is going on here, and I would have invested, but for the same reasons that i pulled out of bitcoindark months ago, I wont.
the amount of energy it takes to listen to the rambling of bassguitar makes me feel like he worries more about people listenning to him then he does about taking care of the work at hand.
I dont need the reward he was willing to give, and I wish you all the best, but if you can get him to focus, your project will be all the better for it.
sincerely BC
I get your point, but you need to look from an unbiased point of view. I do not mean anything malicious, and I caught your dev stealing code. I know you may not like me, but I am not the coin. The time i spend auditing other coin's code is unrelated to the time i spend developing, especially because a lot of my job now that we have hired developers working on colored coins is Chief "Scientist" even though i don't like the term, which means i do research. The community can vet for me that I do what I promise that wasnt the point. I dont mind a good discussion, but you were driving at a point that nobody cared about. read my last posts about voip viorcoin dev has shown himself to be capable, and I have no doubt that he has copied code..... I mean all devs do to some extent. but the early bird catches the worm so to speak. also you were FUDing, I know you apologized but it showed that you were the one with the biased view. so please please just work at what you do best. in a couple weeks ill remove you from my ignore list and see what has been going on here again. your ideas are good, but your social skills are incredibly unprofesional. so enough. I wish you no Ill will, but I am tired by your constant dribble. I guess if a dev is stealing code, lying and saying they made it, and having multiple vulnerabilities, what should one do. Is it fudding to reveal that? I wish vior no ill will, but i'm tired of ICO scams that have no real innovation. How do you know they steal the code? what evidence do you have? What if they license it? How can you find vulnerabilities with a closed source ? It's seems you have nothing valuable to do, looking at your post history almost 2-3 pages are on viorcoin thread. Where's your opal drive, marketplace source? The only driver in opalcoin is speculation compared to viorcoin that has a phone network which calling credit can be bought with viorcoin. I will be revealing how I figured out the source to bitcoin carpenter. It's open source code which has a license that says it must be open source and credited used. Marketplace is closed source because it's a non protocol service. Opal Drive source is in the file branch of github. The driver in opal is decentralized assets, storage and more. Decentralized assets, storage and more doesn't add any value to the price, it's back to price speculation. Your community is still limited to bitcointalk. Innovation adds value. Intrinsic value backs the price. I don't know what you mean with the second sentence when we have a kickass irc and slack community What I meant by community is that what reason can I give my friends that are not used to crypto to use opal? For viorcoin it's easy, I can set up the wallet and load the wallet with calling cards. That's why i said it's limited to bitointalk just like every other coin that their devs doesn't think outside the box and figure out that merchant/service is essential for coins to be utilized as currency Here's a reason: With opal you can transfer and store files at 1/8th the cost of dropbox or mega. More people use storage than Voip. You can crowd fund and donate to crowdfunding platforms with colored coins. Why use vior for calling cards when its more expensive and harder to use than normal voip?
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hey guys.
bassguitarman asked the viorcoin thread to post about any critisisms we may have about your coin...
Ill post one.
I was very interested about the devs tech, and was considerring looking into what was going on in here, but then came the constant blabbering.
after a quick breeze through , I have to say that I like what is going on here, and I would have invested, but for the same reasons that i pulled out of bitcoindark months ago, I wont.
the amount of energy it takes to listen to the rambling of bassguitar makes me feel like he worries more about people listenning to him then he does about taking care of the work at hand.
I dont need the reward he was willing to give, and I wish you all the best, but if you can get him to focus, your project will be all the better for it.
sincerely BC
I get your point, but you need to look from an unbiased point of view. I do not mean anything malicious, and I caught your dev stealing code. I know you may not like me, but I am not the coin. The time i spend auditing other coin's code is unrelated to the time i spend developing, especially because a lot of my job now that we have hired developers working on colored coins is Chief "Scientist" even though i don't like the term, which means i do research. The community can vet for me that I do what I promise that wasnt the point. I dont mind a good discussion, but you were driving at a point that nobody cared about. read my last posts about voip viorcoin dev has shown himself to be capable, and I have no doubt that he has copied code..... I mean all devs do to some extent. but the early bird catches the worm so to speak. also you were FUDing, I know you apologized but it showed that you were the one with the biased view. so please please just work at what you do best. in a couple weeks ill remove you from my ignore list and see what has been going on here again. your ideas are good, but your social skills are incredibly unprofesional. so enough. I wish you no Ill will, but I am tired by your constant dribble. I guess if a dev is stealing code, lying and saying they made it, and having multiple vulnerabilities, what should one do. Is it fudding to reveal that? I wish vior no ill will, but i'm tired of ICO scams that have no real innovation. How do you know they steal the code? what evidence do you have? What if they license it? How can you find vulnerabilities with a closed source ? It's seems you have nothing valuable to do, looking at your post history almost 2-3 pages are on viorcoin thread. Where's your opal drive, marketplace source? The only driver in opalcoin is speculation compared to viorcoin that has a phone network which calling credit can be bought with viorcoin. I will be revealing how I figured out the source to bitcoin carpenter. It's open source code which has a license that says it must be open source and credited used. Marketplace is closed source because it's a non protocol service. Opal Drive source is in the file branch of github. The driver in opal is decentralized assets, storage and more. Decentralized assets, storage and more doesn't add any value to the price, it's back to price speculation. Your community is still limited to bitcointalk. Innovation adds value. Intrinsic value backs the price. I don't know what you mean with the second sentence when we have a kickass irc and slack community
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hey guys.
bassguitarman asked the viorcoin thread to post about any critisisms we may have about your coin...
Ill post one.
I was very interested about the devs tech, and was considerring looking into what was going on in here, but then came the constant blabbering.
after a quick breeze through , I have to say that I like what is going on here, and I would have invested, but for the same reasons that i pulled out of bitcoindark months ago, I wont.
the amount of energy it takes to listen to the rambling of bassguitar makes me feel like he worries more about people listenning to him then he does about taking care of the work at hand.
I dont need the reward he was willing to give, and I wish you all the best, but if you can get him to focus, your project will be all the better for it.
sincerely BC
I get your point, but you need to look from an unbiased point of view. I do not mean anything malicious, and I caught your dev stealing code. I know you may not like me, but I am not the coin. The time i spend auditing other coin's code is unrelated to the time i spend developing, especially because a lot of my job now that we have hired developers working on colored coins is Chief "Scientist" even though i don't like the term, which means i do research. The community can vet for me that I do what I promise that wasnt the point. I dont mind a good discussion, but you were driving at a point that nobody cared about. read my last posts about voip viorcoin dev has shown himself to be capable, and I have no doubt that he has copied code..... I mean all devs do to some extent. but the early bird catches the worm so to speak. also you were FUDing, I know you apologized but it showed that you were the one with the biased view. so please please just work at what you do best. in a couple weeks ill remove you from my ignore list and see what has been going on here again. your ideas are good, but your social skills are incredibly unprofesional. so enough. I wish you no Ill will, but I am tired by your constant dribble. I guess if a dev is stealing code, lying and saying they made it, and having multiple vulnerabilities, what should one do. Is it fudding to reveal that? I wish vior no ill will, but i'm tired of ICO scams that have no real innovation. How do you know they steal the code? what evidence do you have? What if they license it? How can you find vulnerabilities with a closed source ? It's seems you have nothing valuable to do, looking at your post history almost 2-3 pages are on viorcoin thread. Where's your opal drive, marketplace source? The only driver in opalcoin is speculation compared to viorcoin that has a phone network which calling credit can be bought with viorcoin. I will be revealing how I figured out the source to bitcoin carpenter. It's open source code which has a license that says it must be open source and credited used. Marketplace is closed source because it's a non protocol service. Opal Drive source is in the file branch of github. The driver in opal is decentralized assets, storage and more.
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hey guys.
bassguitarman asked the viorcoin thread to post about any critisisms we may have about your coin...
Ill post one.
I was very interested about the devs tech, and was considerring looking into what was going on in here, but then came the constant blabbering.
after a quick breeze through , I have to say that I like what is going on here, and I would have invested, but for the same reasons that i pulled out of bitcoindark months ago, I wont.
the amount of energy it takes to listen to the rambling of bassguitar makes me feel like he worries more about people listenning to him then he does about taking care of the work at hand.
I dont need the reward he was willing to give, and I wish you all the best, but if you can get him to focus, your project will be all the better for it.
sincerely BC
I get your point, but you need to look from an unbiased point of view. I do not mean anything malicious, and I caught your dev stealing code. I know you may not like me, but I am not the coin. The time i spend auditing other coin's code is unrelated to the time i spend developing, especially because a lot of my job now that we have hired developers working on colored coins is Chief "Scientist" even though i don't like the term, which means i do research. The community can vet for me that I do what I promise that wasnt the point. I dont mind a good discussion, but you were driving at a point that nobody cared about. read my last posts about voip viorcoin dev has shown himself to be capable, and I have no doubt that he has copied code..... I mean all devs do to some extent. but the early bird catches the worm so to speak. also you were FUDing, I know you apologized but it showed that you were the one with the biased view. so please please just work at what you do best. in a couple weeks ill remove you from my ignore list and see what has been going on here again. your ideas are good, but your social skills are incredibly unprofesional. so enough. I wish you no Ill will, but I am tired by your constant dribble. I guess if a dev is stealing code, lying and saying they made it, and having multiple vulnerabilities, what should one do. Is it fudding to reveal that? I wish vior no ill will, but i'm tired of ICO scams that have no real innovation.
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hey guys.
bassguitarman asked the viorcoin thread to post about any critisisms we may have about your coin...
Ill post one.
I was very interested about the devs tech, and was considerring looking into what was going on in here, but then came the constant blabbering.
after a quick breeze through , I have to say that I like what is going on here, and I would have invested, but for the same reasons that i pulled out of bitcoindark months ago, I wont.
the amount of energy it takes to listen to the rambling of bassguitar makes me feel like he worries more about people listenning to him then he does about taking care of the work at hand.
I dont need the reward he was willing to give, and I wish you all the best, but if you can get him to focus, your project will be all the better for it.
sincerely BC
I get your point, but you need to look from an unbiased point of view. I do not mean anything malicious, and I caught your dev stealing code. I know you may not like me, but I am not the coin. The time i spend auditing other coin's code is unrelated to the time i spend developing, especially because a lot of my job now that we have hired developers working on colored coins is Chief "Scientist" even though i don't like the term, which means i do research. The community can vet for me that I do what I promise
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I am honored to be fan of the week. I am very excited to see if you even know what a utxo set is and how you plan to integrate proof of stake, something even sunny king couldn't do.
I will bet the vior dev $350 that Opal will release an open source decentralized lighthouse fork or alternative before Vior
Anyone else willing to take this bet
Another WebKit feature ? Yes you are a big developer When you will release the Trade and Opacity sourcecode ? I don't see nothing in your git. FaSan The reason i say alternative is because it is technically impossible to fork bitcoinj in a reasonable amount of time for proof of stake. We are building a crowdfunding platform on top of colored coins. opacity is in master branch, opal-ex is in oplx branch. Colored coins are not webkit. I will give $3 to every legit criticism of opal in the opal thread.
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I am honored to be fan of the week. I am very excited to see if you even know what a utxo set is and how you plan to integrate proof of stake, something even sunny king couldn't do.
I will bet the vior dev $350 that Opal will release an open source lighthouse fork before Vior
Anyone else willing to take this bet
Looks interesting! But, becarefull writting this shitty post because you are losing your amazing time in stupid people. Why on earth do you want to bet 350dollars with people when you are reqesting loans for 0.75BTC and only have Collateral worth of: $250 worth on OPALTKN on the NXT AE mind blowing Because I am 100% sure I can win
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please leave bassguitarman, I know you are an attention seeker, but this constant useless banter of yours is not helping the crypto community in any way. I would have come over and spent the time learning about the work that you are doing, but I realize now that i dont want to expend the amount of energy required to stay in correspondence with you.
please return to your project and put your energy into furthering your project, there it will at least help to serve the community you are forming instead of turning off business investors such as myself.
good luck to you.
I will ignore your posts from now on.
All i'm doing is offering the dev a bet, since he claims he can beat us at our own project.
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I am honored to be fan of the week. I am very excited to see if you even know what a utxo set is and how you plan to integrate proof of stake, something even sunny king couldn't do.
I will bet the vior dev $350 that Opal will release an open source lighthouse fork before Vior
Anyone else willing to take this bet
Looks interesting! But, becarefull writting this shitty post because you are losing your amazing time in stupid people. English please?
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I am honored to be fan of the week. I am very excited to see if you even know what a utxo set is and how you plan to integrate proof of stake, something even sunny king couldn't do.
I will bet the vior dev $350 that Opal will release an open source decentralized lighthouse fork or alternative before Vior
Anyone else willing to take this bet
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Wow, way to steal my idea. I have slack logs saying i'd do it bassguitarman [8:23 AM] Lighthouse released bassguitarman [8:23 AM] i'll look into forking for opal jefdiesel [8:25 AM] whats lighthouse? twinwinnerd [8:26 AM] slackbot animate me lighthouse slackbot [8:26 AM] http://lighthouseofhopear.tripod.com/animated_lighthouse111.gif#.png (119KB) bassguitarman [8:26 AM] https://github.com/vinumeris/lighthouse GitHub vinumeris/lighthouse lighthouse - Lighthouse: a peer to peer crowdfunding app that uses Bitcoin bassguitarman [8:26 AM] decentralized crowdfunding
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