You say : that the poor will starve because they have no job because nobody need them. (assuming no unconditional income) I ask : Why does the poor doesn't own a robot which will work for him ?
If you say : Because he is poor and have no money for it. I would ask : So why would'nt he work for himself or work for other poors who have no money for a robot ?
If employing another poor is cheaper than owning a robot, then it basically means that a poor is more effective than a robot, if not, why would the robot cost more ?
If you say : a robot cost less than hiring a poor, I would ask : So why does the poor not buy a robot, since his wage is higher than a robot ?
It is unbelievable that so many people think that the middle/upper class must/should/are giving jobs to the poor. No, the poors can provide services to each others as well and form their own economy. They are just prevented to do so when you have law like minimal wage, insurmontable bureaucraties bullshit to waste time on, or banks, legally mandatory for the business, refusing to even open a fucking bank account for them. (It happened to me as well, and I'm not poor)
If robot can grant you any desires, then yes, you don't need money at all, no need for any "unconditional income". You won't even need to socialize, since this need would also be taken care of robot. If you need at least 2 thing that only other humans can give, then you start to enter into an exchange that will ultimately be done with money. Unconditional Income will be a tax on those who offer those services, forcing them to work and give even more.
Sorry mate but you just sound like a middle-class teenager who pigeonholed himself as libertarian and refuse to acknowledge that your views simply may not work in reality. Lets use a real example simulation, no theoretical bullshit. Imagine you're a customer service worker, with unemployed wife + kid + mortgage. You earn just enough to survive (pay the bills, get food, clothes, pay mortgage rate). One day you discover that you and your colleagues are replaced by piece of software. What do you do? Go.
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I might pull out of Dicenow as no one is betting there which gives me all the negatives of being in a house bank, like not being able to use those funds and counterparty risk but none of the advantages like return on investment. What do yall reckon?
Just pull it out. It's supposed to be an investment, but if there's no activity - it's not an investment, it's just deposit. What are your thoughts on adding SafeDice instead (if you're familiar with them at all)? They've been around for some time and growing nice and steady (with no hype, campaigns etc) with whales popping in from time to time (attracted by 0.5% HE variable).
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Just added support for shapeshift.io
You can now deposit with clams, gemz, doge and over 20 other alt coins!
Your deposit will be converted to Bitcoin and added to your balance.
Just click the pay with alt coins button on the deposit dialog and you will be presented with the shapeshift window that lets you choose the alt coin you wish to deposit with.
Really good idea. Just tested it with small amount, works fine.
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A quick look at their site shows the Gold is stored in Switzerland. Maybe in the past Switzerland has been neutral in times of war etc but I personally wouldn't rely on that as part of the EU block which is more than likely to go tits up in the coming years.
Switzerland is not in EU and never was.
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Anyone knows Amagi Metals? they seem to be doing a hell of a job, and they are Bitcoin exclusive. I would help brands like this. You are buying metal, and helping BTC at the same time.
They're well known. I haven't bought from them yet as intercontinental shipping (to UK) makes it less attractive, but they have good opinion. AM official thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130831.0But where did you get the 'bitcoin exclusive' info from? From what I remember they said they hope to switch to bitcoin-only in the next few years but other payments are still shown on their website.
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Nick Szabo Is Probably Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamotohttp://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/05/nick-szabo-is-probably-satoshi-nakamoto/Cryptocurrency expert and guy who continually denies he’s Satoshi Nakamoto, Nick Szabo, is probably Bitcoin founder Satoshi Nakamoto, according to the New York Times. “I’m not Satoshi,” Szabo told reporter Nathaniel Popper. He probably is, though.
Popper outlines the evidence for the “Nick Szabo is Satoshi Nakamoto” consensus that’s currently brewing: Szabo created a Bitcoin predecessor called “bit gold” and he was in contact about that project with the same people who Satoshi first contacted about Bitcoin. He back-dated a blog post asking for help turning bit gold into reality to make it appear like he wrote it after Satoshi’s paper on Bitcoin was released in 2008. And he just sounded a hell of a lot like Satoshi:
Mr. Szabo’s writing about bit gold from that time contains many striking parallels with Satoshi’s description of Bitcoin, including similar phrasings and even common writing mannerisms. In 2014, researchers at Aston University, in England, compared the writing of several people who have been suspected to be Satoshi and found that none matched up nearly as well as Mr. Szabo’s. The similarity was “uncanny”, said Jack Grieve, the lecturer who led the effort.
Popper isn’t the first to put forth the “N.S. = S.N.” hypothesis, and despite denials, even Nick Szabo thinks that Nick Szabo is probably Satoshi Nakamoto. “All I’m saying is, there are all these parallels and it looks funny to me and looks funny to a lot of other people,” he said. Edit: NY Times article referred to above: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/business/decoding-the-enigma-of-satoshi-nakamoto-and-the-birth-of-bitcoin.html
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i really cant do much to prove to you legitimacy, the only way that can be established is through time, and hopefully we are able to build a reputation.
Incorrect. There's plenty ways to prove your legitimacy. for bitcoin to succeed, we need to learn to trust each other...
Incorrect. It's the opposite, Bitcoin is about clear rules and trustless system. If you want a system based entirely on trust, use IOUs. We do not accept any payment except coins
why?
well, if you are able to buy cheap products exclusively with bitcoins doesn't that make bitcoin a little more valuable? i am a bitcoin enthuiest and i believe one way to catch people attention about bitcoin, is to provide a reason for them to use bitcoin as a payment, in this case, because they are able to buy cheap goods using me and my colleagues web store.
If we treat bitcoin with the value it deserves, then this is when the sky becomes the limit.
So you're saying that your goal is not to build a profitable and sustainable business but to pump the price of bitcoin? You dodged my other questions. Here they are again: ... Are you registered business, if so, in what country? Why are you launching new platform instead of using any existing (trusted) one?
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The first question I'd ask myself before buying from you is 'are you legit?'.
If you start a new platform that only accept BTC you'll have a real problem with gaining trust. Few questions:
Will you also accept fiat, if not, why? Are you registered business, if so, in what country? Why are you launching new platform instead of using any existing (trusted) one?
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Switzerland was considered the safe country for storing assets, but AFAIK that's no longer the case.
Why not buying physical gold and keep in in your own possession? You could buy small quantities from different trusted sellers and accumulate large holding.
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For anyone interested in the subject, here's short (15 mins) video with good overview of impact of automation on human labour. It's from 2014 but don't think anyone posted this link before: Humans Need Not Applyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU
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Finally there's some Ring Game action today, things are picking up a bit. 4 players at the table But just noticed micro RGs are not raked. I don't think anyone would have a problem if there's a small rake on them. I reckon 0.10/0.20 will be the most popular table for a while, so it would be good if the site generated at least a little bit of revenue on it. My bad, it's raked.
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bit-x really need to add something bigger than just being a cloud exchange, something like a decentralized exchange(a client for that like open bazar) would be really cool
Bit-x is a business not a charity. How would they generate profits on developing decentralised exchange? internal escrow can set a fee(a resonable one 0.1?) there must be always an escrow even in a decentralized system, and even in the case this is automatic If the system is reliant on central escrow (you're unable to pick your escrow), how would it be decentralised? Basically you just described how it currently works. The exchange basically act as escrow (they hold all the deposits), allow buyers and sellers to transact and charges fees for that.
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Bitcoin’s Growing PainsBurgeoning Transactions Present Congestion Dilemmahttp://panampost.com/franco-amati/2015/05/14/bitcoins-growing-pains/The bitcoin network processes approximately 100,000 transactions every day, or on average around one transaction per second. It seems like nothing by comparison with popular payment methods. PayPal says it handles 11 million daily transactions (127 per second), while Visa nears 216 million (2,500 per second).
Bitcoin is a long way from achieving such heights, but it’s growing. Around this time last year, the network processed half the volume it does today: transactions have doubled.
The concern is that bitcoin, as it stands today, can manage three transactions per second at most. This limit during peak times or specific scenarios is already a problem, delaying transactions and sparking controversy among developers: not only about the possible solutions, but also who gets to decide on them in a community that has always strived to be as decentralized as possible ...
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bit-x really need to add something bigger than just being a cloud exchange, something like a decentralized exchange(a client for that like open bazar) would be really cool
Bit-x is a business not a charity. How would they generate profits on developing decentralised exchange?
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I've got a problem with my withdrawal. It's stuck as 'pending' since yesterday (way over 12 hours).
was the problem solved for you? i wanted to try the site out how it works and play a few games though im now a little bit scared tht i will have troubles withdrawing money back to my wallet too, keep us updated about your withdraw I posted that only few minutes ago, so not yet solved. But have no doubts OP will get it sorted. It's just a matter of withdrawals being manually approved, so delays will happen from time to time. Update: Withdrawal just went through. Thanks.
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I've got a problem with my withdrawal. It's stuck as 'pending' since yesterday (way over 12 hours).
was the problem solved for you? i wanted to try the site out how it works and play a few games though im now a little bit scared tht i will have troubles withdrawing money back to my wallet too, keep us updated about your withdraw I posted that only few minutes ago, so not yet solved. But have no doubts OP will get it sorted. It's just a matter of withdrawals being manually approved, so delays will happen from time to time.
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I've got a problem with my withdrawal. It's stuck as 'pending' since yesterday (way over 12 hours).
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We have also thought about doing Royal Flush and 4 of a Kind bonuses on the ring games. Would anyone else be interested in this and would it encourage you to play more on the ring games? If so we can possibly get this implemented.
Yes to that. It could be just enough incentive to get all those freeroll abusers to play RGs and buy-in tourneys. Other thing to consider are loyalty points, earned by playing raked games and based on rake contribution (to avoid abuse). You could then just reward player with most points earned (weekly?) or let exchange points for chips etc. And if it's not too hard to implement, I'd like to see referral program. There's no harm in having that. If I have some spare chips I could do some small affiliate giveaway.
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Nasdaq bets on bitcoin's blockchain as the future of financehttp://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/may/13/nasdaq-bitcoin-blockchainThe stock exchange is experimenting with ‘coloured coins’ as a way to use the public ledger to record private equity transactions
The US stock-exchange Nasdaq is experimenting with incorporating the underlying technology of the bitcoin cryptocurrency into its pre-IPO trading arm, Nasdaq Private Markets.
The wing, a subsidiary of the company that focuses on assisting investment for firms that are not yet publicly traded, will begin to write a copy of its trades into the publicly available ledger of all bitcoin transactions, known as the “blockchain”. ...
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Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter?http://www.nasdaq.com/article/does-the-price-of-bitcoin-matter-cm476312For true devotees of Bitcoin, the price of the digital currency is almost irrelevant. They believe in its inherent value or, more frequently, cannot see any value at all in the alternative of government issued fiat currency. Price is therefore not a concern. At the other end of the spectrum, for those that harbor what appears to be an irrational hatred of Bitcoin and anything to do with it, the exchange rate also matters little. They were screaming that it was all worthless when the price was at over $1000, and somehow convince themselves that an exchange rate of over 200 times what it was before that bubble proves their point. For the vast majority of people somewhere in the middle, however, the price of the currency in Dollar, Euro, Yuan or whatever terms is important. ... Main point: Like it or not, if Bitcoin is to really fulfill its potential, it has to achieve some degree of mainstream acceptance. The events of the last few months have shown that that is far more likely if the price is at least relatively stable. If for no other reason than that, whatever those on the extremes may say, price does matter.
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