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4881  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2017, 01:57:24 PM
The 2x part will never happen in November but who cares?  Bigblockers have finally there BCash coin with no Segwit+8mb blocks...thats what they wanted, right?

Those noobs should stop crying for christ sake...if China didn't HF into BCash then the changes where much higher for the 2x agreement. Double shoot in there own feet lol.

BCash was created for the express purpose of making sure that the scaling debate will continue on into the future ad nauseam and ad infinitum.

The FUDsters can never ever let FUD die, or else Bitcoin wins.

That is all.

News flash:

BITCOIN WILL NEVER BE PERFECT.BITCOIN WILL NEVER BE PERFECT.BITCOIN WILL NEVER BE PERFECT.
"Never let Perfect become the enemy of Good Enough."
4882  Economy / Speculation / Re: About BCC (Bitcoin's Cancer Cell) on: August 09, 2017, 12:57:48 PM
They don't need to kill it. They just can let it slowly die through apathy.
4883  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2017, 12:54:19 PM
CNBC on Bitcoin and Gold vs Fiat
https://youtu.be/nY__czzeAEA

Ugh. Why does every MSM corespondent that talks about Bitcoin sound like they have barely reached the pinnacle of Mt. Stupid on the subject? They should all just stop.

4884  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2017, 02:54:45 AM

Once the bloodlust of the guillotine takes hold, the backing behind the wealth matters none. To an impoverished rabble rouser, one enriched on a permissionless, uncensorable, peer to peer currency is indistinguishable from a vampire squidlet.

Tl;dr careful what you wish for.

Roger Ver is 'an enriched on a permissionless, uncensorable, peer to peer currency' and I don't wish the guillotine on that clown.

Oh wait.  Tongue j/k

The point is, even a vampire squidlet like that jackhole enriched on the Bitcoin network can't gain control of the system and subvert it for his own personal gain. Well, we can all hope anyway. I guess we shall see how well the network holds up in the future.
4885  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2017, 01:09:56 AM
Perhaps you mean all-out revolution? Well, I'm pretty sure that in the U.S. that is coming soon. Likely a French Revolution style revolt. Many here would be all-in on that. Grin

How about this time around, instead of destroying the status quo with all kinds of violence and figuring that the rest will take care of itself (like what George Bush tried to do in Iraq), we start out building and testing the better system. That's actually the beauty of the crypto revolution: we are building decentralized money and decentralized forms of governance first. Testing them out, one step at a time. When they are really working, there will be no need for a violent revolution. Existing systems will crumble under their own weight (e.g.: Venezuela) and better, decentralized systems will be already in place to take up the slack.

No need for war. Please.


Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that war was the only way to have a revolution. In this day and age you are correct, since financial warfare is now a far greater power than physical warfare, cryptocurrencies have shown us a new path forward.

We don't need to tear down the old corrupt system physically (through violence), we simply need to find financial ways and means to opt out of it completely. Then it will crumble.

But, sadly if worse came to worse, yes we would need to physically revolt to re-establish our god-given and constitutional freedoms. <sigh> Hopefully it would never come to that.
4886  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2017, 12:35:00 AM
Not a French Revolution style revolt please. I want to keep my head.

If you are not a wealthy Oligarch banker then you have nothing to worry about.  Wink
4887  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2017, 12:26:08 AM
when you will get adult you will discover that no one is innocent. There are no victims, only accomplices.

Lol, I am adult. Very adult. Adults don't have a much of a choice,at least in the U.S. they get to vote on some two-party local reps and a presidential candidate from a field of two. The two presidential candidates of which have already been groomed and pre-selected by the Wealthy Elite Oligarchy so it's not much of a choice. There's a third option (Libertarian candidate) that some of us vote for, but never seems to get more than 3% of the vote.

Perhaps you mean all-out revolution? Well, I'm pretty sure that in the U.S. that is coming soon. Likely a French Revolution style revolt. Many here would be all-in on that. Grin
4888  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2017, 12:13:16 AM
Your parents don't fund pensions. Come back when you find out who does. In fact, come back when you find out who looted all the public pension funds and why $4.5T in unfunded liabilities is already gone and can't be paid.

That's the matter: they designed a caste system where they get back much more that they paid in, because their debt is guaranteed by "future generations" (who will get nothing beyond their debts). Now this can be "normal" in the sense that any generation enslaved the following in one way or another since the beginning of time, and it can be also democratic (because the boomers tend to be a majority -especially as voters), but it's a system of shit, which for me can go to hell in a basket tomorrow morning. Even: the sooner it blows up the better.

Systems like pensions and social security in theory sound great on paper. And they are supposed to work OK in practice.... as long as 1) the currency isn't massively devalued over time, and 2) the oligarchs are not allowed to 'borrow' (aka loot) from those systems with the promise of future IOUs to pay them back (which they never will do).

You can blame the government for that shit. These systems should just be abolished because they've been hijacked by the elites.
4889  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wtf is wrong with this forum, how was this missed? on: August 09, 2017, 12:00:57 AM
It has been discussed previously.

Some believe it's bullish, as it allows hedge funds to finally be sanctioned by the CFTC to directly invest in bitcoin with (supposedly) fully collateralized credit swaps through LedgerX. Naturally it should mean some larger investor money rolling into the Bitcoin market over time.

However, some believe it can also be viewed as a negative. The CFTC has a very long & arduous history with the control and manipulation of the price of precious metals, with naked shorting and spoofing being rampant for years now. This is something that the Bitcoin community does not want to see happen with bitcoin as well.
4890  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2017, 11:46:00 PM
Now that sh*t is getting real for real they're fucked, and we too. And we have no one to blame but them. If for nothing else just to have put us in their fucked world of latest stage ponzis.

WTF are you talking about?? Are you one of those ignorant millennials that want to blame your parents for all the ills of the world???

Your parents didn't create this mess. Your Government and the Elitist Oligarchs did. Grow up, grow a pair, and fight for what you believe in. Don't blame your parents.

Try to study a bit about "Public" debt and pensions (how they are funded), and then come back.
Your parents don't fund pensions. Come back when you find out who does. In fact, come back when you find out who looted all the public pension funds and why $4.5T in unfunded liabilities is already gone and can't be paid.
4891  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2017, 11:39:20 PM
Now that sh*t is getting real for real they're fucked, and we too. And we have no one to blame but them. If for nothing else just to have put us in their fucked world of latest stage ponzis.

WTF are you talking about?? Are you one of those ignorant millennials that want to blame your parents for all the ills of the world???

Your parents didn't create this mess. Your Government and the wealthy Elitist Oligarchs did. Grow up, grow a pair, and fight for what you believe in. Don't blame your parents.
4892  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2017, 11:31:35 PM
The boomers will have a troubled retirement.

I won't let my folks suffer obviously, but my old man is as bad as any of them from a political-economic perspective. The fact that they don't know just does not excuse what they have done. Results matter in the adult world.

I read an article recently that said that the boomers are very worried about retirement. That they should have somewhere in the neighborhood of $600K+ saved, but that even the most savvy of them only have like $200K saved. Most have far less saved or nothing.

I keep thinking, what the hell were they doing with their money all those years? Why weren't they investing in stocks back when times were really good and the markets were flying high on real fundamentals?

Good god, to go back to the 80's and heavily invest in Microsoft or Apple....
4893  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2017, 11:21:09 PM
I was laughed at by many of my friends when I was buying at $200.

It's very very hard now not to be as childish as my friends were back then.

Especially as they are struggling to put deposits down on their 1st house and also have been denied by the bank for loans to do renovation work due to deciding to be up to their eye balls in debt paying finance for fancy cars.

It's hard not to bring it up.

What you describe is like 99.99% of the population. The sheeple.

I hope to hell the majority finally take the blue pill and wake up, before it's too late and they end up in their old age in poor health and broke like the govt wants them to be.
4894  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2017, 11:01:06 PM

Actually it's in danish prices. But yeah, fuck americans.

HEY!

we bombed the shit out of the middle east and stole that oil fair and square

Worthless. Not only is the world now swimming in oil, but Russia is going to take LNG to all the countries in Euro-asia. And the U.S. deep state is pissed that they can't sell their over-priced LNG to Europe anymore.
4895  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is skyrocketing on: August 08, 2017, 10:58:29 PM
Title is misleading. Skyrocketing would imply we are at $10K.

We are not at $10K.

How you do guys that love to make these disingenuous thread titles live with yourselves? And always made by some newbie account with less than 100 posts... hmmm...
4896  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2017, 06:51:55 PM
So as Bitcoiners, do we have a right to be pissed if there are no immediate LN related launches?

I mean, the Core devs and the rest of the community have acted like these LN technologies and apps have been coded, tested, and sitting around ready to go for the better part of a year or two now. And preaching that the miners have been blocking these 'ready-to-go LN apps' for all this time.

If I don't see something around LN immediately launched after SegWit lock-in, I'm gonna get seriously irritated.  Angry
4897  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2017, 03:30:24 PM
Those who did not dump bch yet would better wait for a decent pump to dump when it makes the most damage to the enemy and the most cash for you.

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I'm waiting for. I'm 100% convinced that the FUDsters will attempt one more massive attack on Bitcoin, massively shorting/dumping BTC while simultaneously pumping BCH to the moon. They'll combine that with temporarily switching mining rigs over to BCH from BTC.

I'm guessing this shitstorm will happen in late Sept. or Nov. in retaliation for the SegWit2X snub that we all know is likely not going to happen.
4898  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2017, 02:59:37 PM
Ooooh, BCH/BTC ratio back up to 0.11.

Quit tempting me to trade more BCH, dammit !

4899  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2017, 02:26:51 PM
$$$ BUY Bitcoin Cash $$$

Why the hell would we need to buy it, troll? We already own it.  Roll Eyes
4900  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2017, 02:19:17 PM
As far as i know roach is actually still in BTC. Ugh

(I can remember him saying so some weeks ago)

Well, he said he sold all his BTC and went all in on LTC and silver. That's what he said, but who knows what this guy is really doing (other than spamming this thread with PM/Nazi troll crap).
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