Au contraire dear fonz ... GS are notorious for recommending/downgrading assets against the best interests of their clients, for the very purposes of front-running them. Typically on the juiciest of plays. The very fact GS are covering bitcoin in a report is the news. Their statement that it is "too volatile for serious investors" ... means stay away until we establish our positions first. Volatility is life blood for these guys.
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You have misconceptions about anarchism. It doesn't imply "no rules", just "no rulers". Big difference. The picture you have in mind of looting gangs of raping criminals has been put into your mind by the media. Anarchy does not imply chaos or disorder. Yeah... and who's going to enforce that, preventing chaos? Emergence. Spontaneous order. Have you ever seen the conductor making a forest of cicadas sing? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence
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Banks tightening up like this just goes to show how afraid they are of cryptocurrency. If the banks are afraid, we're on the right track!
“You know you're over the target when you start taking flak.”
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I ask again - who will anonymity truly benefit ? Fungible coins and paper cash were both great advancements for humanity and economic good for all societies that used them. Many positive correlations in history are well-documented going back hundreds and thousands of years. There is no reason to expect fungible digital 'coins/cash' would be any different, probably a greater relative advance in respect of it it being a non-physical medium of exchange capable of transferring values anywhere on the planet anonymously. I think in retrospect it will be come to be seen that the last 20-30 years of traceable digital money substitutes (not fungible) was a historic anomaly bought about by the botched transitioning of legacy paper ledger banking system unsuccessfully into the digital realm. A huge mistake by people who did not understand monetary science all that well but assumed they knew what was best for society (no doubt while feathering their own nests in the process).
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Fungibility. Good money needs to be fungible or the whole system of that money is inefficient as a medium of exchange and will inevitably break down.
It is not about anonymity per se but traceability. In the realm of digital money it must be untraceable to be fungible. Any piece of bitcoin must be indistinguishable from any other piece of bitcoin.
Anonymity can be a natural side-effect of untraceable digital money but is not necessarily a goal in itself.
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who is joe?
do you mean jorge? (hint read slowly with eyes open) JorgeStolfi ... some self-styled 'academic' who showed up here recently pontificating (wrongly) about bitcoin.
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Jorge is wrong; bitcoin would be a zero sum game if it operated inside a closed system, it clearly does not.
Bitcoin provides a superior medium of exchange and makes private international value transfer more efficient, by orders of magnitude, as but one example. These increased efficiencies are net gains for the wider economy and for economic actors outside the bitcoin ecosystem. Some of the increased value bought about by these efficiencies naturally flow to Bitcoin, the asset, since that is part of the mechanism they derive from. Note also that some of that net value increase flows to bitcoin, the payment network, in the form of venture capital, new businesses and amazingly volunteer coding time.
Bitcoin is absolutely Not a zero sum game. That is a stupid, shallow statement from someone with very little understanding of economic systems, or a hidden agenda to push.
It is analogous to saying the back-hoe digger is not providing any advanced utility over men with shovels and no one can make money from building and using back-hoe diggers.
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If anyone is so adamant and gung ho about zero regulations, then please convert all your money from your heavily regulated bank controlled accounts (which you so much oppose) into Bitcoins and store them in the unregulated safety of wonderful exchanges such as Mt Gox.
bitcoins is built so that noone need trust another. How did you miss that bit? Why would anyone let someone else store their bitcoins for them? Are you stupid? The weak and corrupted are getting weeded out by the market. All that regulation will do is ensconce the corrupted and incompetent. Probably bolstered with tax-payer bail-outs after it is found that the regulators were on the take from the players, while watching porn, and they don't want to be liable for not doing "their job" properly. We've seen what regulated financial systems look like, they don't work. Or did you miss that exhibition of corruption and incompetence writ large also?
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in all seriousness, i don't see the point in providing banking for people who can't even afford food. please explain to me.
Looks like you have been ethically lobotomized. Is it your ideology to take the place in the queue behind 7 billion others? That helps neither yourself nor the 7 billion. So get out there, hands out of your pockets, cut your hair, and get some coinz. In 3 years, you can always donate a million PC's to the poor if you feel the need for it. Better yet, if were to pursue his own devoid logic reductio ad absurdum, he should just kill himself now so that another starving mouth may feed.
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Yes, this was it. Weird because I tested the prior link yesterday and it worked.
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my prediction is:
hard times with financial authority, government regulations, etc... Question... why exactly money should be anonymous ?.. I mean .. the philosophy behind that theory
Fungibility.
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Broken link, see below.
This is the one I was thinking about. Not exactly in your scheme but related, so might be useful.
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Take a team of good 100 python coders and give them a year and there would be a coin that would surpass bitcoin in every quality aspect.
I strongly disagree with this statement. I'm not sure if you know how to code but in Computer Science you can't brute force yourself to innovation. If that were true than Microsoft, Apple and Google would be the only successful tech companies and we all know that is not the truth and they buy small companies like crazy. 1 genius computer scientist can do more that 1000 good computer scientists. Did you even look at the Bitcoin code ? It is pretty light. You could write some 1000 lines of code that could change the world forever if you have the skill. And usually in IT, bigger teams are always worst that smaller teams. At least that is my point of view. hahaha, kkapser's a blowhard ... he's not writing 1000 lines of anything except pure unadulterated FUD. 1) every communist regime known has had rampant monetary inflation 2) the most prosperous nation and period known in economic history is the free market capitalism under the deflationary gold standard period of the 1800's in USA.
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gawd are you guys still feeding this troll?
... it's kind of like watching a bad re-run of mid-2011. Just go back and read the archives, you aren't bringing anything new to the table dude, you're a complete mini-mind, get over yourself.
Bitcoin is gonna kick your ass (and hundreds of other know-it-alls just like you) up and down the street forever unless you get a clue.
Away from the monetary lightweights.
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I think this is it for me for today also. The priests of the choo choo cult have arrived to fill your minds with beautiful dreams. I think that I'll do something easier tomorrow, like go to an Christianity forum and post a question if Jesus was in fact the son of god.
you should check out the cult of fiat banksterism ... it works really well for the high priest wannabees like yourself i heard
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To me it looks like cult behavior revolving around a materialistic product. Yes, with a superficial glance from an unqualified mind it could well appear exactly like that ... many have assumed the same thing for over 5 years and missed out on opportunities that come along only once in 300 years or more. You should probably leave now and come back when it is truly truly failed for the "told you so" dance routine ... and again at the next pullback after that ... and again at the next pullback after that ...
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capital controls typically emerge in the late stages of an economy in severe financial or political crisis ...
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... no need to bring an assault rifle to a school yard pissing contest ...
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Yep. bitcoin was only good for buying drugs before I got into it ... after that it was only a gimmick.
It's a gimmick in finance, but it's pretty practical in gambling. You haven't mentioned that it is now an established network protocol yet. I thought your erudite analysis of why it was going to become obsolete in 2-3 years would need to address that? PS: Leave the potty-mouth insolence at the door. Even if the bitcoin code could be considered as an established network protocol, it wouldn't mean that bitcoin units will have any value in the future. It would only mean that the same protocol will be used in the future to create new currencies with new units. But I hardly believe that future developers will use the bitcoin code. Using bitcoin code to create altcoins will stay in time when only hobbyists and students created new coins for fun. If cryptos will be an serious financial tool, then the bitcoin code will be history. ... i guess this is the speculation thread. Unsubstantiated, opinionated diatribe can pass for commentary i suppose. Edit: you could post your concerns in the "Development and Technical Discussion" if think you have something useful to contribute?
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Yep. bitcoin was only good for buying drugs before I got into it ... after that it was only a gimmick.
It's a gimmick in finance, but it's pretty practical in gambling. You haven't mentioned that it is now an established network protocol yet. I thought your erudite analysis of why it was going to become obsolete in 2-3 years would need to address that? PS: Leave the potty-mouth insolence at the door.
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