These loopholes and arbitrary, informal, procedures are why smart money avoids the exchanges.  It's like a random listing on the forum or -otc, but with a single bottleneck-a person represented by a silly nickname with no real background of trust or accountability.

I googled him and all I could find was some artist with the same name and no real connection to the person running MPEX. http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/long_island&id=8659705  and this....

Nefario can be found with a simple whois of glbse.com.

I know who the shady one is and its not Nefario.

This is completely wrong, you absolutely need to know who a person is if they are selling something of considerable value, holding funds or running an exchange. The result of an anonymous person running an exchange will be depositors and "investors" losing their money when the exchange eventually disappears.

Could you describe what that breakdown is?

There are only so many people who want an account to trade with, once the signups slow down the chances go up that MPEx either abandons the project or runs with everybody's money.

BDT post mortem

Rethinking everything I've went through tl;dr

I doubt MPEx would still be there in 10 years is what I really mean.

The operator is basically anonymous and runs a porn site on the same server.

Anonymous entities and bitcoin financial services  has proven in the past to be a bad combination and people would be nuts to send any coins to such services.By urging people to invest in such services you are actually doing the community a disservice and teaching people bad habits. People should boycott anonymous financial services not encourage them. 

So, thought about streamlining your trades, lowering your account creation fee, updating your site design, or stopped being a troll? If yes, you are lying. If no, post tits or gtfo.

Yeah, I'm having a hard time writing them off as a scam, even in the face of previous grievous altercations.

I tried finding information about the london conf, pictures, video, anything... and failed.
Would have been nice to see some lousy cell phone vid of the jalapeno... but that kind of stuff is very hard to do for non-techy folks like bitcoin users.

whoa whoa whoa, back the forum train up a bit here.  What the fuck are any of you in the last 1.5 pages talking about?!  There was some conference and he was there in person?  They showed up with an ASIC miner and auctioned it off?!  They just literally said 2 days ago that they aren't finished and they don't have a single working ASIC miner in their company's hands.  They assured everyone of this.  So they showed up at some alleged conference that someone posted about out on nowhere and not 1 single person took a photo? Not one single Bitcoin Talk forum member who attended this huge, elaborate, epic event owns a cell phone with a camera or thought it was worth snapping a photo?  Do you fake ass forum members posting all this pretend bullshit really believe anyone to believe it?  Mods, get out the ban hammer hard.  That or some of you better start explaining

WHAT

THE

FUCK

Are any of you talking(/lying?) about?!?!?!

Were they real people or just virtual sock puppets?

Posting this here, as the thread was voted into invisibility on /r/bitcoin:

Assuming $19 million stolen, and some other facts about the case

The case went all the way to the Italian Supreme Court.

Yes..  really.  This is no joke.  It's called the federal sentencing guidelines implemented in 1984.  It's the point system that determines the sentence, not the judge.  My points totaled 43.  Life in prison.  Look it up and prepare to be amazed.

I guess you're not familiar with Stock Generation. This looks like the same setup. You pay 20% per month for a few months using your deposits to fund the payouts and strongly encouraging reinvestment. Then, you close down all the funds with guaranteed high rates (or just don't offer them), offering people to either get into non-guaranteed funds at no loss or to take the 75% haircut to cash out. Either way, you make money. Then you just tell everyone in the non-guaranteed funds that you're very sorry but they lost everything. As was made clear, it's risky.

In effect, this can be a Ponzi scheme and can take everyone's money without ever breaching one promise they made. All they've promised is that you might make a lot of profit and that your losses are capped at 75%. It's basically like a casino -- all they're saying is that you might make money and you might lose money. The difference is, they've made no clear disclosure of under what conditions you make and which you lose. It's probably safe to assume you make money when that's profitable for them and you lose money when that's profitable for them.

You will continue to make money so long as their deposits continue to increase. Then they'll buy everyone out for just 25% and keep around 75% of current deposits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_Generation

The folks at Stock Generation lost in court due to a very slight miscalculation. If these guys learned from that, they can probably run this entire scam (keeping about 50% of total deposits) without breaking any laws.

The giveaway to this is that the investments are said to involve risk with no clear explanation of what the risks are and under what circumstances they lose money. This is what separates something like Stock Generation from a classic Ponzi. (If you read carefully, they can keep most of your money for no reason at all other than that they want to and not break any of their own terms.)

The description you provide here does not seem to match very well with the charges in the indictment. Vleisides plead guilty, which means that he agrees that he did the following, at least with respect to the first count/mailing.

(please excuse OCR errors)

The Grand Jury charges:
COUNTS ONE THROUGH ELEVEN [18 U.S.C. §§ 1341, 2]
A. INTRODUCTION
1. At all times relevant to this Indictment:

a. Shamrock Agency, German Swiss Group, World Expert Fund, Mutual Medical Insurance Co, Old Amsterdam Trust Co, Euro American Fax Co, European Union Commission, EU American Payment Co, Global Search Network, North American Foreign Payments Services, Worldwide Verification Service, and others (collectively, the "Fraudulent Lottery and Pension Companies") were companies purporting to, for a fee, enter individuals in the United States into foreign and domestic lotteries, and to set up pension accounts.

b.   Defendants SONNY VLEISIDES ("VLEISIDES"), JAMES RAY HOUSTON, aka Rex Rogers ("HOUSTON"), and DENNIS EMMETT ("EMMETT") owned and controlled portions of the Fraudulent Lottery and Pension Companies.

c.   Defendant WILLIAM CLOUD ("CLOUD") worked for the Fraudulent Lottery and Pension Companies, which work included handling offshore mailing addresses, creating and maintaining victim lists, and handling and directing the handling of victim funds.

d.   Defendant SCOTT HENRY WALTHER ("WALTHER") worked for the Fraudulent Lottery and Pension Companies, which work included overseeing the finances of the Fraudulent Lottery and Pension Companies, and controlling some of the bank accounts related to those entities.

B. THE SCHEME TO DEFRAUD

2. Beginning in or about 1990, and continuing to at least in or about July 2006, in Los Angeles, Orange, Ventura, San Louis Obispo, and Riverside Counties, within the Central District of California, and elsewhere, defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and WALTHER, together with others known and unknown to the Grand Jury, knowingly and with intent to defraud, devised, participated in, and executed a scheme to defraud victims as to a material matter, and to obtain money and property from such victims by means of material false and fraudulent pretenses, representations, and promises, and by the concealment of material facts.

3. To execute the scheme to defraud, defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and WALTHER and others known and unknown to the Grand Jury set up and operated the Fraudulent Lottery and Pension Companies. The scheme operated as follows:

a. Defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and WALTHER, and others known and unknown to the Grand Jury created and sent over one million solicitations purportedly offering increased chances of winning foreign and domestic lotteries such as "The Australian Lottery," "The International Irish Sweepstakes," "The El Gordo," "The Bunderschmidt," "The NY Super 7," and the "Triple Crown Lottery." The solicitations claimed that the victims were purchasing "positions" in tickets to lotteries that would be grouped together or "pooled" to buy larger blocks of tickets. The solicitations contained various misrepresentations, including but not limited to the following:

i.   That money sent by participants in the pool would be used to purchase tickets in lotteries, horse races, and other such games;

ii.   That participants in the pool had a chance to win millions of dollars;

iii. That previous participants in the pool had won millions of dollars through the pool;

iv.   That the companies were backed by governmental and/or legitimate lottery entities;

v.   That the companies were well-established and had been in business for long periods of time; and

vi.   That winnings invested into the lottery's trust or pension accounts would pay monthly pension checks until the end of the victim's life, and then would pay an amount to a beneficiary as if the money were a life insurance policy.

b.   The solicitations induced the victims to send payments to the Fraudulent Lottery and Pension Companies via the United States mail, in that along with the solicitations, defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and WALTHER and others known and unknown to the Grand Jury provided the victims with envelopes preaddressed to commercial mail receiving agencies established by defendant CLOUD and others known and unknown to the Grand Jury in the Netherlands and Ireland, among other locations.

c.   At the direction of defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, and EMMETT, defendant WALTHER and others known and unknown to the Grand Jury first deposited the victims' money into accounts defendant WALTHER and others known and unknown to the Grand Jury established at numerous banks in accounts with names that sounded like official lotteries, for example: Shamrock Agency, World Expert, Old Amsterdam, German Swiss, Global Search Newtwork, and EUC, and official pensions, for example: Mutual Medical Insurance Company ("the Deposit Accounts").

d.   After the victims' money was deposited into the Deposit Accounts, at the direction of defendants VLEISIDES,
HOUSTON, and EMMETT, defendant WALTHER and others known and unknown to the Grand Jury transferred some of the victims' money into another set of accounts, with the following names, among others: North American Payment and EU Payment Service ("the Payment Accounts").

e.   From the Payment Accounts, at the direction of defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, and EMMETT, defendant WALTHER and others known and unknown to the Grand Jury wrote checks falsely represented as lottery winnings and sent them back to the victims. The amount of the alleged "winnings" sent to each victim was far less than the amount the victim had sent in.

f.   At the direction of defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, and EMMETT, defendant WALTHER and others known and unknown to the Grand Jury transferred some of the money from the Lottery Accounts and Payment Accounts to another set of accounts, which were in names similar to Henry Walther Attorney Wire Account ("the Syphon Accounts").

g.   At the direction of defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, and EMMETT, defendant WALTHER and others known and unknown to the Grand Jury wrote checks (or transferred money by wire) from the Lottery Accounts and the Payment Accounts to the Syphon Accounts.

h.   Defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and WALTHER and others known and unknown to the Grand Jury used money from the Syphon Accounts to continue the scheme by paying scheme expenses, as well as to provide benefits to defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and WALTHER.

i.   Defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and WALTHER and others known and unknown to the Grand Jury also misappropriated funds from the Lottery Accounts and Payment Accounts in the form of checks to cash, checks to themselves, or checks to the payment of personal or scheme expenses.

C. THE MISREPRESENTATIONS AND CONCEALMENT OF MATERIAL FACTS

4. In furtherance of the scheme to defraud, defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and WALTHER, and others known and unknown to the Grand Jury, engaged in and willfully caused others known and unknown to the Grand Jury to engage in the following material fraudulent and deceptive acts, practices, devices, and representations, among others, and knowingly concealed and caused others known and unknown to the Grand Jury to conceal the following material facts, among others:

a.   Defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and WALTHER falsely represented to victims, and caused others known and unknown to the Grand Jury to falsely represent to victims, that if the victims sent money to the Fraudulent Lottery and Pension Companies, that money would be used to purchase tickets in lotteries and other such games. In truth and in fact, as defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and"WALTHER then well knew, the money was not used to purchase such tickets, but rather was used to send purported winnings to other victims, to otherwise further the fraudulent scheme, and to benefit defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, WALTHER and others known and unknown to the Grand Jury.

b.   Defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and WALTHER falsely represented to victims, and caused others known and unknown to the Grand Jury to falsely represent to victims, that if the victims sent money to the Fraudulent Lottery and Pension Companies, they had a chance to win millions of dollars through the Fraudulent Lottery and Pension Companies. In truth and in fact, as defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, anc WALTHER then well knew, no participant had a chance to win millions of dollars through the Fraudulent Lottery and Pension Companies.

c.   Defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and WALTHER falsely represented to victims, and caused others known and unknown to the Grand Jury to falsely represent to victims, that previous participants in the Fraudulent Lottery and Pension Companies had won millions of dollars. In truth and in fact, as defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and WALTHER then well knew, no participant in the Fraudulent Lottery and Pension Companies had ever won millions of dollars through the Fraudulent Lottery and Pension Companies.

d.   Defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and WALTHER falsely represented to victims, and caused others known and unknown to the Grand Jury to falsely represent to victims, that the Fraudulent Lottery and Pension Companies were backed by governmental and/or legitimate lottery entities. In truth and ir fact, as defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and WALTHER then well knew, the Fraudulent Lottery and Pension Companies were not backed by any governmental or legitimate lottery entity.

e.   Defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and WALTHER falsely represented to victims, and caused others known and unknown to the Grand Jury to falsely represent to victims, that checks sent to victims represented winnings from the victims' participation in lotteries, horse races, or other games. In truth and in fact, as defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and WALTHER then well knew, the checks sent to victims were not from victims' winnings but were actually funds sent in by other victims.

f.   Defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and WALTHER falsely represented to victims, and caused others known and unknown to the Grand Jury to falsely represent to victims, that winnings invested into the Fraudulent Lottery and Pension Companies' accounts would pay monthly pension checks until the end of the victim's life, and then would pay an amount to a beneficiary as if the money were a life insurance policy. In truth and in fact, as defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and WALTHER then well knew, there were no separate pension or life insurance accounts for victims, and victims would not be paid as promised.

g.   Defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and WALTHER caused letters to be sent to victims falsely claiming to be from individuals with a background in and connection to legitimate foreign lotteries. In truth and in fact, as defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and WALTHER then well knew, the persons from whom the letters sent by the Fraudulent Lottery and Pension Company purported to be did not exist.

D. THE EFFECT OF THE SCHEME TO DEFRAUD

5. Through the above-described scheme to defraud, defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and WALTHER caused tens of thousands of victims to send over $25 million to the Fraudulent Lottery and Pension Companies. E. THE MAILINGS

6. On or about the dates listed below, in Los Angeles, Orange, Ventura, San Louis Obispo, and Riverside Counties, withii the Central District of California, and elsewhere, defendants VLEISIDES, HOUSTON, EMMETT, CLOUD, and WALTHER, for the purpose of executing the above-described scheme to defraud, caused the following items to be placed in an authorized depository for mai; matter and to be sent and delivered by the U.S. Postal Service and to be deposited with and to be delivered by private and commercial interstate carriers, according to the directions thereon:

[long list of checks omitted]

COUNTS TWELVE THROUGH TWENTY-THREE [18 U.S.C. §§ 1956(a) (1) (A) (i) , 2]

7.   The Grand Jury hereby realleges and incorporates by reference paragraphs one through five of this Indictment.

8.   On or about the following dates, in Los Angeles County, within the Central District of California, and elsewhere, defendants SONNY VLEISIDES, JAMES RAY HOUSTON, DENNIS EMMETT, WILLIAM CLOUD, and SCOTT HENRY WALTHER, knowing that the property involved in each of the financial transactions represented the proceeds of some form of unlawful activity, knowingly conducted, attempted to conduct, and aided, abetted, counseled, commanded, induced, procured, and willfully caused the following financial transactions affecting interstate commerce, which transactions in fact involved the proceeds of specified unlawful activity, that is, mail fraud, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1341, with the intent to promote the carrying on of such specified unlawful activity:

[long list of checks omitted]