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4921  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: US government super computer made from 2000 ps3 systems. 500 TeraFLOPS o.O on: February 03, 2012, 03:20:09 PM
Governments are welcome and encouraged to make some money on the bitcoin network. Who will be the first?
If governments controlled the majority of hashing power, does Bitcoin become a fiat currency?
4922  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This will change Bitcoin as you know it. on: February 03, 2012, 02:59:31 PM
Is this out yet? I checked my local B&N and they did not carry it. So I complained and demanded they start.  Grin
lol... So B&N has already agreed to carry it, the magazine isn't out, and you complained to them and demanded they start carrying it.


Stay classy, Bitcoin.  Tongue
4923  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Build a mining rig or buy bitcoin cheap on: February 03, 2012, 02:56:19 PM
you should look into FPGA boards they seem to be the go and for 20watts and 380hashes for just 580$ u cant go wrong!!
- and it only takes ~7 months to break even!
4924  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Pizza for bitcoins? on: February 03, 2012, 01:02:29 PM
Perspective -- this is an image from Las's server. I assume it was his balance ~June 2010 by the modified date.



... So don't make fun of him too much -- it's quite possible he's a very, very wealthy fellow right now. Wink
4925  Economy / Lending / Re: Banco De Kluge (BDK) - Now issuing Certificates of Deposit! on: February 03, 2012, 09:37:24 AM
~18.6BTC to lend. Will still match IBB loans. Just today and tomorrow left for special CD rates before it falls back down.

ETA: Just received a 200BTC deposit. Plenty more to lend. Smiley
4926  Other / Meta / Re: Proposal: Limit font size in signatures to 10pt or less on: February 03, 2012, 01:19:00 AM
If we're just going to ban anything obnoxious............ You know.

 Wink  Tongue  Lips sealed
4927  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 102.5 MHash/s - mining worthwhile? on: February 02, 2012, 11:12:46 PM
Depends on the power draw and how much you pay for electricity. If it's a Nvidia card, I can answer pretty quickly: no.

So I'd need to figure out the KWH of my computer and how much I pay per kw?
Only if you want to know whether or not you'll even be making a profit doing it.  Tongue Given the low hash rate, assuming it's an ATI card, and assuming your entire computer consumes... Idunno... roughly 250W - you'd need to be paying ~$.07/kWh (after fees/taxes - not "price to compare") or less for it to be profitable. Very unlikely this is worth your time.
4928  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ghost exchanges on: February 02, 2012, 10:51:19 PM
My experiences with MtGox was excellent.

They reply in less than 24hours.
+1. Was frustrating to have my account info leaked way back when, but they've always been quick to respond to my inquiries, and offering a free Yubikey was appreciated. I've been quite pleased with them and their advancements in service.
4929  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 102.5 MHash/s - mining worthwhile? on: February 02, 2012, 10:49:07 PM
Depends on the power draw and how much you pay for electricity. If it's a Nvidia card, I can answer pretty quickly: no.
4930  Economy / Lending / Re: Banco De Kluge (BDK) - Now issuing Certificates of Deposit! on: February 02, 2012, 09:50:01 PM
If you're confused about the CD terms, I apologize. Feel free to PM me any questions (or PM theymos to ensure the [collapse] function is included in the forum update!). Smiley

[ETA: This wasn't in response to Vin]
4931  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Suggest bitcoins to erowid.org on: February 02, 2012, 09:25:33 PM
"June 10, 2011: Success : Converted 50 BTC at $28.70 per, for $1430 USD."
"Apr 13, 2011: Success: Converted 96.99 BTC into $86.38 USD"
*shudder*
4932  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Build a mining rig or buy bitcoin cheap on: February 02, 2012, 09:19:55 PM
Depends primarily on your electricity rates, but also on your outlook. Mining components are a relatively illiquid investment, and you probably won't be able to recoup >60% what you invested on anything but the GPUs (unless you buy a particularly energy-efficient PSU, perhaps). Your ability to react to rapid and dramatic market shifts will be crippled -- if BTC rises from $6/BTC to $8/BTC, unless you've been hoarding coins, there's not any way for you to take advantage of that situation. OTOH, if the value of Bitcoin drops dramatically to become near-worthless, you're not out too much because the components you use can just be sold off. Mining also guarantees income (not profit, though), fwiw.

If you buy electricity <$.15/kWh after all fees & taxes, I'd say go for mining. Otherwise, buy the coins if you want to get in BTC.
4933  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Bitcoin Contraption of the week on: February 02, 2012, 09:03:30 PM
Next, attach the nozzle of a ShopVac.  Shocked  Tongue
4934  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitcoins For Reading Email on: February 02, 2012, 07:54:26 PM
Clever. Signed up.  Smiley
4935  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: $10 million toward making Bitcoin successful on: February 02, 2012, 07:28:09 PM
Attempt to control the BTC price to force it to stay right around $7. Buy all BTC up to $7, then set up a massive bid order @ $7, and a massive ask order (with all remaining coins) @ $7.00001. Hold out for as long as possible, which should be a very long time unless the coins run out which were bought between current price & $7. At that point, were I really committed to blowing through the $10m, I'd start buying Bitcoin above $7 and re-listing it @ $7.
4936  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A startling thought crossed my mind on: February 01, 2012, 07:37:05 PM
Mining difficulty tends to be based on the price of Bitcoins (though it lags). This makes it profitable for most people to mine. Only in an event where the price/difficulty correlation dramatically breaks will people with unusually cheap electricity be the only remaining miners. Currently, this is not the situation -- my electricity is not unusually cheap, and I'm making a bit over 2x electricity costs using 5850s, which aren't noted for being particularly energy-efficient. It could be a problem, but I don't see it - right now - being a problem we should worry about.

Wouldn't you say that when the price falls at a certain difficulty it forces the weaker miners out first since the miners with better equipment who are more invested are willing to take and usually can afford some small losses before they'd have to quit?
Yes, probably, and folks with the more efficient miners & lower electricity rates would probably not even be taking losses while others are forced out due to lack of profitability.

- But, I'm not mining with particularly efficient equipment and I also don't have particularly low electricity rates, but I don't recall there ever being a time when I was losing money mining. So, for now, I don't think we need to worry about mining becoming worryingly consolidated. When FPGA advances a fair bit further than it is, though... it could become a serious problem because most FPGA miner owners won't have any other purpose for it than mining, and because they're so energy-efficient, it doesn't matter much how difficult mining is at a low BTC price, or that there's not much resale value in those circumstances.... They'll just keep mining, and GPU miners will be pushed out.
4937  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A startling thought crossed my mind on: February 01, 2012, 07:26:53 PM
Mining difficulty tends to be based on the price of Bitcoins (though it lags). This makes it profitable for most people to mine. Only in an event where the price/difficulty correlation dramatically breaks will people with unusually cheap electricity be the only remaining miners. Currently, this is not the situation -- my electricity is not unusually cheap, and I'm making a bit over 2x electricity costs using 5850s, which aren't noted for being particularly energy-efficient. It could be a problem, but I don't see it - right now - being a problem we should worry about.
4938  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bitcoiner Political Ideaology on: February 01, 2012, 02:01:40 PM
I'm a firm believer in the George Carlin view on rights/privileges.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaa9iw85tW8

Do what you want, and if I dislike it enough, I'll kill you or otherwise aggress (this is, currently, usually the job of government -- I disagree with its necessity, and in many current cases of its existence, its benefit). Works both ways, so in general, don't piss people off unless you're capable of defending against them.
4939  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 7970 temps increased by 10C after applying new thermal paste? on: February 01, 2012, 12:46:52 PM
So............... Has anyone actually tried mayonnaise long-term?
4940  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Mt.Gox overview: January 2012 / Transparency on: February 01, 2012, 12:21:02 PM
Damn clever move, Gox team!  Grin Was this a direct result of hazek's hell-raising with CxC?  Wink
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