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4961  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [INFO] Signature Campaign [Hanya Pembayaran Bitcoin]| Ter-Update !!! on: June 13, 2020, 12:01:08 PM
BTW ini ada sig yang bayar pake bitcoin, cuma dipost di sub altcoin. Ane juga baru tahu setelah liat list bounty yang exchangable di sub sebelah. Kayaknya bisa ditambahkan.
* Note: ane belum melakukan DD, jadi cek duluan kalau mau ada yang nyoba.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5254523.0
4962  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam reporting sites? on: June 13, 2020, 11:54:01 AM
Your best bet is to report on authorities. To recover your funds someone would need to make a tx from the scammer address and send it to your wallet. Which means they have to get the private key/seed, or force the scammer on gun point. I don't think any random guy on the internet can do that, even finding the location of the scammer is a task on its own. As others said, if somebody said they can do this, there's a high chance they're scammers themselves.

Already did posted there. you could see the site i got scammed. Before i did buy from the site i searched there and there is none so i thought it was ok and i just take the risk. <-- Idiot me :[

At least you learnt your lesson. Be careful next time.
4963  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Bitcoin Is Old Tech But.... on: June 13, 2020, 11:31:14 AM
Nobody is forcing you to use bitcoin, and I doubt the community is forced either. If you don't wanna use it then you can move one, and tried to compete with the bitcoin chain. Old or young doesn't matter in crypto, or if you want that to count, then factoring the security of the network must be included too.

Simply because something started earlier than everyone, doesn't mean it's no longer good.
4964  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Share]: Someone lost all of his BTC from malicious chrome extension on: June 13, 2020, 08:57:02 AM
I don't understand why people keep all their savings in one place. If the person would have stored it in different places then he would not have encountered the entire loss.

It will make the backup somewhat difficult to handle and some, if not most people don't really like that. Saving in one place is not bad in general. Getting phished and not doing any due diligence is. What we can learn from this is you should not trust Google always list a good extension (even malware can go past them). And to be honest this is not the firs time.
4965  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Books Reseller on: June 13, 2020, 08:03:38 AM
Looks like you can buy the e-book version from Andreas website directly, https://aantonop.com/shop/. I didn't do a full checkout but it looks like it works, unlike the Amazon version where the Kindle is not available. In my local shop, somebody sells it offline though, so if you don't want to buy the e-book, maybe your only alternative is your local shop. I doubt anyone can give you free shipping or a huge shipping discount if you buy a single book and live somewhere far from US/EU etc.
4966  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Trading - pemula harus hati hati on: June 13, 2020, 07:13:27 AM
Alternatif buat mengantisipasi bot atau bukan bisa lihat depth nya juga. Sama trade historynya. Kalau banyak yang trade kecil" dan ga masuk akal karena bakal bikin rugi di fee, kemungkinan pake bot. Kalau depthnya kacau (tipis" atau jarak satu dengan yang lain jauh banget dan ini konsisten) besar kemungkinan trading agan juga bakal ga nyaman. Dan tentunya nyari review dulu tentang exchange yang bersangkutan, daripada zonk bisa deposit ga bisa wd.
4967  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Exstock scamer market on: June 13, 2020, 06:50:57 AM
Mungkin belum ada pihak yang secara langsung menghubungi lembaga tersebut sehingga masih ada korban . Ataukah ada aturan lain dalam kasus ini om?

Coba dicek di thread scam accusations yang bahasa Inggris. Banyak yang kena dan beberapa ada inisiatif untuk lapor kok, dan di atas itu kan juga udah dishare kalau pernah dikasuskan di Romania.

Masih ada korban bukan karena tidak ada yang lapor, tapi karena user kurang waspada dan situsnya juga belum ditutup. Dan tentang FCA:
I also got a second reply from the FCA saying that they're likely a scam since they're not authorized with the FCA.

Jadi coba agan baca" di thread itu dulu, ane rasa informasinya udah cukup banyak.
4968  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Buy crypto using Ledger Live on: June 12, 2020, 12:26:03 PM
Going a bit off topic here guys.

Anyway, I wonder why more and more services are trying to do this kind of thing. It's as if they don't support buying crypto with fiat then they're out of date. Not sure why I would use a hardware wallet software to buy crypto, where there are dozens of options out there. Ledger doesn't have to follow the trend honestly.

4969  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Binance Angel Welfare on: June 12, 2020, 07:15:08 AM
You can ask Binance directly through e-mail I believe. Or ask any angel in Telegram. I don't think second-hand information or assumption about their monetary rewards is a good thing to have, you might get tricked later on.

4970  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Pintu, Aplikasi Cryptocurrency Berbasis Mobile-Apps (Instan Deposit & WD 24 Jam) on: June 12, 2020, 06:39:17 AM
Sepengetahuan saya berdasar info di grup telegramnya sih limit withdrawal perhari itu maksimal 200 juta per hari

Tapi di appsnya seingat saya ga ada keterangan ini. Atau mungkin ane yang kelewat? Ane rasa ini info penting yang seharusnya ada di apps, karena lucu nanti kalau user tx nya stuck lagi kaya ane gara" hal yang dikira fine" aja. @Pintu mungkin bisa ditambahkan di update berikutnya, karena ga semua orang rajin dan scroll chat Tele lebih dulu sebelum mau WD.
4971  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: 2020 List Bitcoin Mixers Bitcoin Tumblers Websites on: June 11, 2020, 01:14:31 PM
Seems dubious that no answer from support (states answer within 48 hrs), has been 57 hrs from my transaction and no support contact/answer.  

Sometimes answer from service like this can get longer than 3 days. You can open a scam accusations if this continue (especially because their account seem to be offline since April).
4972  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why so much hassle finding Fiat/Altcoin pairs exchange? on: June 11, 2020, 01:05:36 PM
Another reason is probably because they make more money when they do that. As you said, you paid more fees, so it's a plus for them. Other than that, I don't think there's a problem with regulators etc, as they can provide fiat exchange for BTC. The reason is likely profitability, at least right now. I don't think this is going to change soon, considering the cost of providing such service with low interest is 'big'.

If you want direct fiat-alts exchange, and assuming your alts are not some ICO garbage, there might be some people who can exchange it for you on the exchange section.
4973  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Share & Diskusi] China Ingin mengintegrasikan 5G dan Blockchain on: June 11, 2020, 09:58:07 AM
Dengan kata lain walaupun internet secepat apapun, semua transaksi blokchain tidak akan berpengaruh besar jika TPSnya kecil ya om? 

Kalau mau dihubung"kan, mungkin yang nambah cepet adalah penambahan tx pada mempool, tapi dampaknya pun kayaknya ga bakal terasa karena data" broadcast juga ga gede" amat. Itu pun juga dipengaruhi oleh ada banyak yang bikin transaksi apa engga.
4974  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: ID for buying bitcoin on: June 11, 2020, 09:50:42 AM
Exchange requirements range from registering with e-mail and confirming it (need to click the link on the e-mail they sent you) to the absolute worst scenario of requiring ID, proof of funds, etc. However, if it comes to fiat-crypto trading, you'll likely need to send your ID, proof of residence, photograph and so on.

If you can't fill all the requirements, P2P trading should be your alternative. Aside from what has been mentioned above, make sure to use an escrow when you're trading with somewhat less trusted users.
4975  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Again, another renowned exchange went offline... on: June 11, 2020, 06:26:35 AM
Unfortunately we can't do anything about it.

You can stop using them. Stop their income and punish them so they'll run out of business if they keep doing this. But that's the problem, most people keep using them because there is simply no alternative (or it's equally bad) for their needs.
4976  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Newbie][Info][Dikusi] Otentikasi Biometrik on: June 10, 2020, 03:41:45 PM
Ane ga tahu sih apps exchange dkk biasanya apa upload data fingerprint juga ke server atau cuma store it locally (kayaknya sih cuma nyimpen lokal di hape aja, nyatanya kalau install baru butuh aktifin lagi dan fingerprintnya bisa beda). Bisa dan tidaknya udah dijawab om abhi, but anyway, walaupun disimpan lokal ane rasa juga udah dienkripsi jadi ga data mentah terus di simpen di appdata gitu aja. Tadi baca sekilas dan kalau ane ga salah paham, di Android data-data sensitif kayak gini ada di trusted environment. Di device lain konsep"nya juga mirip".

Ref:
https://www.androidauthority.com/how-fingerprint-scanners-work-670934/
https://source.android.com/security/biometric/measure
https://source.android.com/security/biometric
https://source.android.com/security/trusty
4977  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Altcoins - XRP, BCH, LTC, EOS, dll on: June 10, 2020, 11:26:41 AM
Mengenai altseason, beberapa analisis yang ane baca sih lebih menggantungkan atau mendasarkan pada dominasi bitcoin di market sih gan. Kalau dominasi turun, dengan kata lain volume trading bitcoin ga jadi mayoritas, otomatis trade alts yang berkembang dan ketika ini terjadi harga alts bisa menggeliat lebih kuat. Udah ada banyak teori sih dan analisis yang menunjukkan kalau saat ini dominasi bitcoin bisa aja masuk ke fase bear, alias turun (bukan berarti harganya turun), jadi bisa aja pesta lebih awal.

Koin" yang ane hold juga ada geliatnya, walau untuk sampai profit besar ya masih jauh.
4978  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Altcoins - XRP, BCH, LTC, EOS, dll on: June 10, 2020, 09:02:45 AM
-Itu Hype karena tekhnologinya di ikutin ETH 2.0,soalnya sejauh ini ETH masih Altcoin Leader,ya pasti orang pada ketriger,kenapa harus beli ETH,mending Ziliqa yang masih underated dengan Fundamental yang ngga beda jauh

Entah kenapa kalau dari segi fundamental (atau mungkin tepatnya hype) ini ane agak susah mengiyakan. Ya bener sih diikutin tapi kan bukan berarti nasibnya bakal sama. Sepertinya dipaksa-paksakan supaya bisa pump. Bukan tidak mungkin ada sebagian orang yang udah beli diawal lalu ngompor"in. Ini murni dari segi spekulasi lo ya, bukan teknikal dst. Ya semoga aja ga kejebak dan ngulangi kejadian 2017 akhir/2018 awal.
4979  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Altcoins - XRP, BCH, LTC, EOS, dll on: June 10, 2020, 07:20:20 AM
-Dalam hal ini yang bikin Ziliqa Hype karena dibanding bandingkan dengan Ethereum 2.0 yang mau mengimplementasikan sharding dan migrate ke PoS pada blockchain mereka,sedangkan Ziliqa sudah implementasi sharding pada beberapa saat yang lalu (ngga tau tanggal pastinya kapan).

Jadi sebabnya hype adalah karena ada koin lain yang mau ngikutin teknologi yang dipakai oleh chain mereka gitu ya? Kok agak gimana gitu ya. Berarti secara fundamental Zil ga ada perubahan kah?

Kayaknya masih terus pump ya, cuma dari ATH sebelumnya masih jauh sekali.
4980  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Make Money While You Sleep? Welcome To The World Of Crypto Trading Ai Bots on: June 10, 2020, 06:15:10 AM
Quality bots must be created for more than $ 1 million, which is the real bot.

There is no such thing as that. All bots work on some algorithm so even if you buy a $1 million bot but the algorithm sucks, you'll still lose money. Not to mention you also need to find an exchange that supports various trades options. Bots are just tools and you need to manually change the algorithm if it no longer works.

All this 'make money while you sleep' ads are really oversimplifying how you use a bot.
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