Let me bring this to another level:
Women LOVE credit cards. Women DONT LOVE disposable self-printed paper wallet bills with QR codes.
THIS is the most important post I've read in this whole thread. (I know my wife well.) If you want mainstream adoption, anything beyond SWIPE & enter PIN is going to be a non-starter. Sooo.. figure out a way to make 2 factor authentication work with.. 1) SWIPE physical card... 2) enter 4 digit PIN. If we are talking smartcards here, I can _maybe_ see 1) SWIPE 2) card displays amount and custom generated PIN valid only for that amount 3) enter 4 digit PIN Sigg Well, I totally agree that that is in fact the norm, but it may or may not be in our interest to actually try to ween consumers away from their current habits. |
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So, um, what was the problem with the idea of having one simple keyfob-sized device with one button, whose only function is to sign transactions pushed to it when it's swiped, without giving out the private key?
It's been argued to death. The infrastructure behind it being accepted at all is not limited by the card itself-- that technology is already being used today by every credit card outside of the USA-- the requirements are from the POS developers and service providers. It's not a technology issue, it's a standards issue. Good luck with it as all I can say. |
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@OP: Hi. I'm the nicest and most thoughtful person around these parts and take great care to make everyone feel welcome so I am obviously going to be very kind with my response to you.
Here is what I have to say about e-begging:
1) "Tips" are intended to be tacked-on to an existing purchase, so you are in fact talking about "donations". Anyone who calls it "tipping" is deranged.
2) Donations are fine (I guess), but I like to get value for my money. When someone claims they're going to feed African children for my $50, I'd like to at least have a photo of them feeding them, not just dump my money down an empty well. When some dude on the street has his hands out for change, I give him a job he can do for me to earn the money. I don't think Bitcoin's future is in donations, although I agree that if you must do donations, bitcoin would make it a bit easier to get them to you (read: wikileaks).
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Matthew - if something is illegal, there is still a requirement to prove intent. If I sell you a bag of heroin thinking its flour, I commit no crime. If "Go kill 5 blue people" is illegal, the prosecutor has to prove you meant for blue people to be killed before the crime is proven.
If there is a law banning the statement, "You should kill five blue-eyed people right now," then the question if intent boils down to "Did you intend to utter those words?" That's part of what we are trying to point out. No - that would ban their use in films which would make the entire poll pointless. Except that such exceptions are typically either codified directly, or merely ignored in such obvious cases of legal overreach. I don't see such a concern typically slowing down people's response to such issues. Do you think rape should be illegal? Are you going to say "No - it might be in a film so I can't say rape should be illegal." Of course not. As I said, if the poll includes saying the words in a film, then it is meaningless. Interesting you mention this. I saw a blog of the top 10 banned movies and challenged myself to watch them all, and just got through watching "A Serbian Film" and "Human Centipede 2". I can safely say it would not bother me at all to have those movies be illegal. They don't seem to serve any purpose other than for the director to get off on acting out his fantasies. I know that's a bit off topic, and I know we get into the "drawn children pornography has no victims" arguments pretty soon too, but holy shit that crap is fucked up beyond belief. |
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Also, I'll double OP's bounty for this instead  |
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I tend to agree with the OP's line of thinking.
You tend to agree with Atlas? Probably want to keep that one to yourself. Come on, Matthew, you know I am not a bad guy. This isn't grade school. Au contraré, only in grade school would you define people as 'good' or 'bad' and not weigh individual risks and annoyances by people based on their views, attitudes, etc. I've already seen you admit to not being 100% accurate twice in the past few days. It's a breathtaking change of pace for sure, but you still live in a glass house and have got quite a ways to go. |
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Don't say I didn't tell you.. and warn you.. and make a thread about communications with OP...and his interest in working directly with me...and basically outlined in every way, shape and form why what he is doing is dangerous for everyone...
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I tend to agree with the OP's line of thinking.
You tend to agree with Atlas? Probably want to keep that one to yourself. |
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This is just not inventive enough. Don't make me do it myself. Half the fun of trolling is people not realizing it. -1 You are breaking this golden rule. People take their advertising space/signatures/avatars seriously-1 You aren't providing any choices Here is my suggestion: Instead of demanding that they use only one photo, provide a gallery OR (extra points for brain fuck trolling) use Google image search and let them pick similar photos. People won't even realize what's going on.  |
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you didn't chase him off. he is most likely still here just begging under a new name.
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Wait, I just realized the best way to handle money....minted paper and coins! We should make some kind of... I don't even have the energy to finish this joke.
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Looks like an otherwise nice guy. I really hate it when people can't get over themselves and hide behind pseudo-anonymous groups. Even SA is guilty of this as a whole (hive hypocrisy). Coinhunter's response to possibly losing Viper was "that he was tired of his whining about everything anyway, no loss really". Great guy, excellent leader.
Good leaders know when to cut the cord. |
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Except in doing my own research over the past 4 months or so on those cards, there is looking like less and less chance of ever getting them to work standalone unless we can get the proper microchip custom built for hashing. It's a trick thing but it's a better investment than bulky card-shaped USB drives and plastic swipe cards.
There are some smartcards capable of ECC and SHA-256. Performance likely is bad but you are only doing a few computations per transactions. Smartcards tend to have very limited flashrom though so space would be "tight". The fact that Bitcoin uses a "weird" ECC curve doesn't help either. Totally. Worst of all, you still need an external power supply so these cards need to be swiped/plugged in somewhere to actually do anything. We're a few innovations away from getting something that thin working cheaply, but when it does work, it'd be the ideal transport for Bitcoin. |
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Ordered 3 copies.
Hope to see the first one in the mail very soon!
Don't hold your breath. I ordered some copies as well, but I'm not expecting them until the middle of march. Harray! Sanity! ^_^ Edit: We've got the general process down to 2 weeks automated now. This first issue has just been nuts. |
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And here's how some other people might think: "Berlin, yeah that's not too far and I wanted to see Berlin anyway. Let's see if my girlfriend want to go for a weekend trip, I don't have to attend everything at the conference anyway so we'll have some time together to see Berlin too".
Same can be said for London. There's plenty to do and see in London as well. Yes, of course, this was just a response to Matthew's "Fuck everything else in town, no one is going for a sightseeing expedition". Hehe. Yes well, nothing wrong with stopping to smell the roses, but I'd prefer that the roses be at the conference. |
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The technology already exists:  Agreed. Except in doing my own research over the past 4 months or so on those cards, there is looking like less and less chance of ever getting them to work standalone unless we can get the proper microchip custom built for hashing. It's a trick thing but it's a better investment than bulky card-shaped USB drives and plastic swipe cards. |
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trusted banker?
Isn't that a parodox?  Oxymoron. |
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@Original chinese authors: And?
And I won the bet in that other thread about where will he incorporate? I'm not seeing where he mentions that. |
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Some summary:
1. Zhoutong has been indeed making money.
2. He himself doesn't prefer short-time speculation on Bitcoin.
3. Bitcoinica might still be English-only for a long time.
All totally true from first hand experience as his friend. |
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I really don't understand or appreciate the "there are lots of other things to see in town too!" arguments. Fuck everything else in town, no one is going for a sightseeing expedition of a town, they're going to a convention/conference.
Well, people can do both, you know. Don't be so squared. If I flew all the way from South Korea to go to a conference/convention, I'd be fucking pissed if it wasn't all-day. |
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